Of course I still believe that Queen will get take out by Sanji + X(Can be xDrake or someone else) as King getting take out by Zoro + X(Killer or Kyoshiro). I still believe that the commanders get take out by teambattles, it would make sense after all Kaido and Jack getting out by teambattles.
Sanji's beating Queen, and Kid is getting fucked by Kaido so that Luffy can be the big damn hero. Everything else are fans elevating some power level system above Oda's actual MO.
I don’t think he was. Pre-DJ Sanji and Jabra were evenly matched and Jabra had 1360 more Dorikis than Blueno. That’s more than two and a half times difference.
Quick question: Why are you so much obsessed about trying to prove that the Yonko Commanders are hella overrated? But lemme answer it anyway:
1.) If Zoro solos King with his current strength, we simply underestimated Zoro, that's all. Then it's safe to assume DR Zoro > DR Luffy lol.
2.) If Sanji solos Queen with his current strength, it simply supports the possibility that first mates are still significantly stronger than other Yonko Commanders and it'd elevate Doffy's powerlevel, yes. However, if Sanji solos Queen while gaining another huge PU, this is clearly no Yonko Commander downgrade since Sanji is the one who simply elevated on their level with another huge PU.
And: If Sanji does not solo Queen even with another huge PU, will you accept that Doflamingo is not necessarily stronger than all Yonko Commanders bar the first mates?
What does this have to do with anything? A kick of that strength almost bypassed tekkai. Another kick would also just almost bypass tekkai, unless it is even stronger?!
What does this have to do with anything? A kick of that strength almost bypassed tekkai. Another kick would also just almost bypass tekkai, unless it is even stronger?!
invisibility, durability, ap (most likely with the boosters).
Not to mention sanji without a raid suit is probably around vet or close to yc level anyway
Quick question: Why are you so much obsessed about trying to prove that the Yonko Commanders are hella overrated? But lemme answer it anyway:
1.) If Zoro solos King with his current strength, we simply underestimated Zoro, that's all. Then it's safe to assume DR Zoro > DR Luffy lol.
2.) If Sanji solos Queen with his current strength, it simply supports the possibility that first mates are still significantly stronger than other Yonko Commanders and it'd elevate Doffy's powerlevel, yes. However, if Sanji solos Queen while gaining another huge PU, this is clearly no Yonko Commander downgrade since Sanji is the one who simply elevated on their level with another huge PU.
And: If Sanji does not solo Queen even with another huge PU, will you accept that Doflamingo is not necessarily stronger than all Yonko Commanders bar the first mates?
True, I won't deny that but I could also say "As soon as Bound Man's Kong Organ gets him, it is over". Queen has to connect his attacks on Luffy - and it sure won't be easy.
Does not matter; the fact that they still mock on each other speaks volumes.
You can say the same about Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 - Daz Bones sure destroys Bon Clay's ass but it does not change the fact that they mocked each other. Therefore, King and Queen being portrayed similarily like Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 is highly likely.
If Kidd was focused so much on Queen, he'd attack Queen and not really Apoo, or not? I mean, Kid or Luffy could beat Queen rn and it would not contradict the Sanji vs Queen possibility since Queen can reappear again.
What does this have to do with anything? A kick of that strength almost bypassed tekkai.
Another kick would also just almost bypass tekkai, unless it is even stronger?!
True, I won't deny that but I could also say "As soon as Bound Man's Kong Organ gets him, it is over". Queen has to connect his attacks on Luffy - and it sure won't be easy.
It's literally irrelevant and does not address my point.
Does not matter; the fact that they still mock on each other speaks volumes.
You can say the same about Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 - Daz Bones sure destroys Bon Clay's ass but it does not change the fact that they mocked each other. Therefore, King and Queen being portrayed similarily like Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 is highly likely.
If Kidd was focused so much on Queen, he'd attack Queen and not really Apoo, or not? I mean, Kid or Luffy could beat Queen rn and it would not contradict the Sanji vs Queen possibility since Queen can reappear again.
Well, DR Luffy was obviously weaker than a YC1 level character and if Zoro solos King with no other PUs, this definitely supports the assertion that Zoro really came out of the timeskip stronger than Luffy.
Buuuuut: As I said, it's just a "what if...?"; I believe that Zoro will gain another PU to beat King.
True, I won't deny that but I could also say "As soon as Bound Man's Kong Organ gets him, it is over". Queen has to connect his attacks on Luffy - and it sure won't be easy.
He can shoot the plague at Luffy's hands coming at him and achieve a draw. Queen will soon after stand up, Luffy wont.
I dont know from where this belief comes that Luffy can deal with commanders effortlessly.
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