Character Discussion Who's more dumb - Harald v. Oden

Who's the most foolish lord


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#61
Oden could have taken out Kaido and Orochi early on by asking Hyogoro, the Scabbards, Ninja and other heavy hitters from Wano for help.
The whole twerking butt naked in the streets was Oda doing his usual going above and beyond to get the point across but it simply didn't make sense in the Oden situation because he would have the upper hand against Kaidou's army, he damn near won even after letting Kaidou and his army grow stronger over 5 years.
all oden had to do was accept ray offer to help and gather wano heavy hitters to raid kaido early but he just straight up decided to twerk instead
No need for outside help. Prime Hyogoro was strong.
Bumden's opponent was Rookie Crydo and fecking Orochi, who Bumden alongside his scabbards had fairly high chance to clap since day 1
Nobody can damage King from Wano side.
Oden didn't have any answer to King's durability. Proven with Zoro and Enma, just because he can damage Kaido badly doesn't mean he can even scratch flame on King.
 
#63
Harald want to be part of the WG and he is working towards it

Oden wants wano to be free of kaido and tweaks for him

This is a reading issue problem to even thinking this is comparable regardless of what you think Harald doing is good or Not
Sit down
Wano force didn't have answer to flame on King.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#68
I don’t think Oden’s retardation can ever be topped.

Imagine thinking that dancing through the streets naked like a clown would ever result in Kaido and Orochi keeping their word with you.

“Oh he danced naked through the streets so let’s honor his wishes for the next 20 years”, objectively unfathomable logic

Harald actually had a concrete plan to integrate the giants with human society via the Marines, solidify his relationship with the Government via becoming a Holy Knight (inferior to Admirals), and boost Elbaph’s relationships with humanity via trading and such. How should Harald have known that the inner WG were a collection of demonic scum?

Just because Harald witnessed the racism of Celestial Dragon scum like Saint Shanks first hand doesn’t mean he would have had any way to realize the truth of the Government lol. Saint Shanks simply embodied the prejudice that Harald was seeking to overcome. If Harald would have abandoned his ambition because of that one instance, then he truly would have been a shortsighted moronic child.

Nah, Oden’s stupidity will never be topped in OP unless Oda’s puppeteered corpse truly loses what is left of its mind.
 
#69
Oden at least accomplished something. But Harald? The only thing he did for World Governament that helped Giant's reputation was the Marine enlist thing. Besides that he didn't needed any links with World Governament to make the relationships he made with foreign countries.
 
#71
This also Goes to show you luffy is goofy but he be standing on business built different from the rest of the flock. Can anyone honestly say they see luffy twerking for 5 years or selling out his country to the WG after everything he’s seen?

Hell replace xbec with luffy in the throne room and he’s decking imu right in the face.
 
#73
Oden bowed down to two bullies, one of which a fodder, the other a threat he proved to be able to take head on. Had Oden fought, instead of accepting Orochi's deal, he'd have won, or at least died killing Kaido in the process.

Meanwhile, Harald is bowing to the military forces of a conglomerate of 170 nations.
I don't think he can win against Hybird Kaido but anyway Oden is dumb, once Harald realized what's going on, he immediately accept his death.
 
#74
Not even close
I think Harald is dumb too but Oden is legit the most retarded person in the history of anime/manga.

Harald is facing a force much greater than his country while not being aware of their true nature whiel Oden was facing a force on par if not weaker than his own and had access to multiple top tiers that would have gladly joined and destroyed Kaido with him.

This isn't comparable.
 
#75
Not even close
I think Harald is dumb too but Oden is legit the most retarded person in the history of anime/manga.

Harald is facing a force much greater than his country while not being aware of their true nature whiel Oden was facing a force on par if not weaker than his own and had access to multiple top tiers that would have gladly joined and destroyed Kaido with him.

This isn't comparable.
Twerking for 5 years is dumb that’s undeniable.

But the same help oden could have got with kaido so could Harold.
Harold refused to join xbec and help him which in turn could have saved him from getting DR on GV and killed,who knows maybe even roger pirates would have helped him if xbec told them everything he knew garp only stayed to protect the little guys in the WG.

Xbec rocks pirates Harold +giants possibly roger pirates and garp could definitely fend off the WG for decades to come. But odens was more embarrassing but Harold also had opportunities.
 
#77
Nobody can damage King from Wano side.
Oden didn't have any answer to King's durability. Proven with Zoro and Enma, just because he can damage Kaido badly doesn't mean he can even scratch flame on King.
So, you are saying Zoro can damage King, but Oden can't. The same Zoro that failed to knock down Kaido while Oden did it and gave him PTSD while doing so.:pepecopium:
 
#79
So, you are saying Zoro can damage King, but Oden can't. The same Zoro that failed to knock down Kaido while Oden did it and gave him PTSD while doing so.:pepecopium:
Well, a second thing is true: the guy who BEAT Kaido (not almost) was unable to harm the Seraphim in their invincible mode.

There's no reason to believe that Oden couldn't figure out how to beat King in a death match, but I wouldn't take his intelligence for granted. Especially after we saw how limited invincibility worked against him when he attacked Orochi.
 
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