Controversial Why are people in denial about Fuji/Ryo being future Zoro/Sanji victims?

Doggo

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
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#21
#21
Cozy Sofa said:
To be fair, let's look at the facts leading up to it with the small reservation of my memory failing me in instances as it has been so long.

Timeskip
Mihawk >> Ivankov (as fighters). Zoro trained under Mihawk, Sanji under Ivankov.
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Dragon>Ivankov and I don't see people advocating that Robin is above Sanji. Don't know why this is even an argument.
FI
Zoro defeated #1 Hody and #2 Hyouzou.
Sanji with Jinbei tag teamed #3 Wadatsumi.
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Lmao who cares about FI warm up matchups?
PH
Zoro no diffed Logia Monet that previously almost defeated Luffy.
Sanji got low diffed by Vergo cracking his leg.
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Monet "almost defeated" luffy because of some special effect of her fruit, not because she was "omg so strong that can almost take down luffy"
Also Vergo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monet, and Vergo didn't even take Sanji down. Their battle ended because Vergo left xD
DR
Zoro clashes was about to attack Doflamingo.
Zoro clashed with admiral Fujitora.
Zoro defeated strongest commander Pica.
Sanji got neg diffed by Doflamingo.
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"about to clash". What kind of garbage ass argument is it to create some fanfic on your head of "what could happen" and act as it is canon? LMAO.
Also, saying Pica>Diamante purely because of the golem is some nice copium. All Pica did was hide for the entire battle and, once his golem trick was useless, he got one shot. Meanwhile Diamante's unit is the FIGHTING unit. But sure, keep coping that Pica is "on a league of his own" because he said once that he was gonna kill Fuji and the marines or some shit. xD
WCI
Zoro travelled to Wano where he killed the magistrate.
Sanji mid diffed Yonji.
Sanji was high diffed by Niji.
Sanji was mid diffed by Judge.
Sanji embarrassed himself against Luffy and got no diffed by Namis slap.
Sanji speed blitzed Oven.
Sanji got mid diffed by veteran Daifuku and his Genie in their clash.
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"How to tell people I didn't read WCI without telling people I didn't read WCI".
Wano
Zoro defeated Killer.
Zoro vs Gyukimaru stopped by Kawamatsu.
Zoro scared off the Yokozuna.
Zoro took 2 of Hawkins lives.
Zoro clashed with Denjiro.
Zoro with Drake defeated Apoo.
Zoro scared off Queen.
Zoro scarred Kaido, took Hakai, made Big Mom unable to use Prometheus by cutting fire.
Zoro defeated King who Queen himself saw as nigh unbeatable.
Sanji clashed with Page One.
Sanji got neg diffed by Black Maria.
Sanji got low diffed by King.
Sanji got low diffed by King and Queen.
Sanji defeated Queen.
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Sanji uses Page One as test subject for his new suit.
You> "hur dur clashed".
"sanji got negged by black maria". OF COURSE HE DID. HE CAN'T FIGHT BACK LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO.
If that's your argument, since Vivi negs diff Sanji, then Vivi can neg diff Queen, apparently? what kind of absolutely garbage argument is this "a woman neg diffed Sanji" in fucking 2023, almost 2024?? :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

Seriously.
This post is so bad and biased, that it can't possibly be a serious post.
It was a good joke, man. I laughed a lot reading it.
xD
 
Ace

Ace

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#22
#22
Aramaki is able to steal nourishment from people so he doesn’t see food as necessary. The second that was revealed Sanji is his only opponent.

Fuji will fight Zoro but I don’t think it’ll finish
 
Manos. AsuraZoro

Manos. AsuraZoro

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#23
#23
I don't have a problem with that though at all.
It would be nice for sanji and zoro to fight against those monsters.
My only problem is fujitoras personality.
While he is crazy powerful and it seems he has COC as well, i just can't see him going all out against strawhats.
 
a_fan

a_fan

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#24
#24
I believe they are reserved for Cross Guild given that those two were pushing to disband the warlord system and are after them.

Makes more sense to have Greenbuill vs Crocodile and Mihawk vs Fujitora to hype up Cross Guild.

Kizaru against for Straw Hats and Akainu against Dragon before their redemption arc.
 
style

style

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#25
#25
My main problem is that I still view admirals to be close to the emperors (if not equal), so if Sanji beats an admiral it would mean that EOS Sanji is Yonko level and I simply can't see how this can happen.
I have problems to put him on the same pedestal of characters of the caliber of Shanks and Kaido for example.

However if admirals are confirmed to be noticeably weaker than emperors then I have no problem with Sanji beating an admiral, he can be a perfect inbetweener
 
Zaretball

Zaretball

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#26
I don't really believe in that, there's no time. Akainu is not a Big villain in a major arc like Kaido, there is no time to dedicate an arc just to him and the marines when clearly the goroseis and IMU are bigger villains + with the Straw Hats still having to fight Blackbeard's crew. Since Akainu isn't a big villain, Oda won't waste much time on Zoro and Sanji fighting the admirals.
 
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Cozy Sofa

Cozy Sofa

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#29
#29
Doggo said:
Dragon>Ivankov and I don't see people advocating that Robin is above Sanji. Don't know why this is even an argument.

You managed two wrongs in one sentence. First of all Robin spent more time with Koala and Hack than Dragon. She was never his student like Sabo. And you also have to take into account starting level.

Lmao who cares about FI warm up matchups?

Yeah, let's omit things we don't like. It's a trend you see, a longitudinal one.

Monet "almost defeated" luffy because of some special effect of her fruit, not because she was "omg so strong that can almost take down luffy"
Also Vergo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monet, and Vergo didn't even take Sanji down. Their battle ended because Vergo left xD

Yeah, true about Monet using her DF like any other character. She was still a Logia and a veteran of the Doffy crew on par with Machwise, Senor Pink, Gladius and so on that got negged by Zoro. Sanji was done for, in a very bad situation, he said so himself. No ways around it.

"about to clash". What kind of garbage ass argument is it to create some fanfic on your head of "what could happen" and act as it is canon? LMAO.
Also, saying Pica>Diamante purely because of the golem is some nice copium. All Pica did was hide for the entire battle and, once his golem trick was useless, he got one shot. Meanwhile Diamante's unit is the FIGHTING unit. But sure, keep coping that Pica is "on a league of his own" because he said once that he was gonna kill Fuji and the marines or some shit. xD

Zoro literally was sprinting forward to attack Doflamingo when Fujitora intercepted. It's on you if you can't accept reality. Pica without a doubt > Diamante and Trebol. Vergo obviously the strongest of the 4 but that's besides the point in Dressrosa.

"How to tell people I didn't read WCI without telling people I didn't read WCI".

Sanji uses Page One as test subject for his new suit.
You> "hur dur clashed".
"sanji got negged by black maria". OF COURSE HE DID. HE CAN'T FIGHT BACK LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO.
If that's your argument, since Vivi negs diff Sanji, then Vivi can neg diff Queen, apparently? what kind of absolutely garbage argument is this "a woman neg diffed Sanji" in fucking 2023, almost 2024?? :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

Seriously.
This post is so bad and biased, that it can't possibly be a serious post.
It was a good joke, man. I laughed a lot reading it.
xD

Stop strawmanning. Sanji was whupped left, right and centre crying asking to be somebodys dog and being berated by his own captain on his way to the Roof Top while Zoro defeated 3 Supernova, fought 2 yonko + defeated the YC called a God with the highest bounty yet in the series until Cross Guild later on. Levels.
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Man oh man, it's a rough Friday for you.
 
Soyz

Soyz

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#30
#30
Doggo said:
Dragon>Ivankov and I don't see people advocating that Robin is above Sanji. Don't know why this is even an argument.

Lmao who cares about FI warm up matchups?

Monet "almost defeated" luffy because of some special effect of her fruit, not because she was "omg so strong that can almost take down luffy"
Also Vergo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monet, and Vergo didn't even take Sanji down. Their battle ended because Vergo left xD

"about to clash". What kind of garbage ass argument is it to create some fanfic on your head of "what could happen" and act as it is canon? LMAO.
Also, saying Pica>Diamante purely because of the golem is some nice copium. All Pica did was hide for the entire battle and, once his golem trick was useless, he got one shot. Meanwhile Diamante's unit is the FIGHTING unit. But sure, keep coping that Pica is "on a league of his own" because he said once that he was gonna kill Fuji and the marines or some shit. xD

"How to tell people I didn't read WCI without telling people I didn't read WCI".

Sanji uses Page One as test subject for his new suit.
You> "hur dur clashed".
"sanji got negged by black maria". OF COURSE HE DID. HE CAN'T FIGHT BACK LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO.
If that's your argument, since Vivi negs diff Sanji, then Vivi can neg diff Queen, apparently? what kind of absolutely garbage argument is this "a woman neg diffed Sanji" in fucking 2023, almost 2024?? :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

Seriously.
This post is so bad and biased, that it can't possibly be a serious post.
It was a good joke, man. I laughed a lot reading it.
xD
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The guy is obviously twisting the facts and making up stuff to try to make a distinction between them, they hate the fact luffy fights a yonko while zoro fights a yc with sanji, hurts their headcannon.
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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#32
#32
Shiroyru said:
One is a bushido swordsman who has already clashed with Zoro in the past

The other is a womanizing dirtbag who hasn’t eaten food in over 3 years, and his nature powers juxtapose Sanji’s genetically-enhanced body (science vs nature)

They’re the second and third strongest members of the Marines (Kizaru will likely be out of the story by the end of Egghead), so it’s only natural that Luffy’s Wings fight the top 2 henchmen while Luffy takes on the leader of the Marines
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Why would Fujitora fight on the side of Slavery and genocide?
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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#34
#34
Doggo said:
Dragon>Ivankov and I don't see people advocating that Robin is above Sanji. Don't know why this is even an argument.

Lmao who cares about FI warm up matchups?

Monet "almost defeated" luffy because of some special effect of her fruit, not because she was "omg so strong that can almost take down luffy"
Also Vergo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monet, and Vergo didn't even take Sanji down. Their battle ended because Vergo left xD

"about to clash". What kind of garbage ass argument is it to create some fanfic on your head of "what could happen" and act as it is canon? LMAO.
Also, saying Pica>Diamante purely because of the golem is some nice copium. All Pica did was hide for the entire battle and, once his golem trick was useless, he got one shot. Meanwhile Diamante's unit is the FIGHTING unit. But sure, keep coping that Pica is "on a league of his own" because he said once that he was gonna kill Fuji and the marines or some shit. xD

"How to tell people I didn't read WCI without telling people I didn't read WCI".

Sanji uses Page One as test subject for his new suit.
You> "hur dur clashed".
"sanji got negged by black maria". OF COURSE HE DID. HE CAN'T FIGHT BACK LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO.
If that's your argument, since Vivi negs diff Sanji, then Vivi can neg diff Queen, apparently? what kind of absolutely garbage argument is this "a woman neg diffed Sanji" in fucking 2023, almost 2024?? :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

Seriously.
This post is so bad and biased, that it can't possibly be a serious post.
It was a good joke, man. I laughed a lot reading it.
xD
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They really just wanted to delude themselves into Sanji vs Page One even being an option Lmao
 
Daves John

Daves John

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style said:
My main problem is that I still view admirals to be close to the emperors (if not equal), so if Sanji beats an admiral it would mean that EOS Sanji is Yonko level and I simply can't see how this can happen.
I have problems to put him on the same pedestal of characters of the caliber of Shanks and Kaido for example.

However if admirals are confirmed to be noticeably weaker than emperors then I have no problem with Sanji beating an admiral, he can be a perfect inbetweener
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Sanji was always going to be Yonko level, people are just coping. We are constantly shown that at the end of the day, he is ultimately right below Zoro.

And Zoro is at least surpassing Mihawk, who, might as well be stronger than any Yonko (or is at least roughly on par with the strongest Yonko)

Fans have had this idea that Sanji will just stop growing at some point (while Zoro continues) for 100s of chapters now, but it just never happened and it never will.
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MarineHQ said:
I'm not against it but whether Issho sticks around and actually fights as an enemy is not certain at this point.
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It would be incredibly lame for Fujitora to be beaten by Zoro. He has portrayed as a huge thorn in WG's side for 300 chapters now, but he will go down protecting them?

Extremely unlikely, I think Borsalino makes more sense.
 
mly90

mly90

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#37
#37
Zoro isnt fighting Fuji it’s Kizaru or nobody
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Daves John said:
It would be incredibly lame for Fujitora to be beaten by Zoro. He has portrayed as a huge thorn in WG's side for 300 chapters now, but he will go down protecting them?

Extremely unlikely, I think Borsalino makes more sense.
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Perfectly said couldn’t agree more
 
Shasha23

Shasha23

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#38
#38
Doggo said:
Dragon>Ivankov and I don't see people advocating that Robin is above Sanji. Don't know why this is even an argument.

Lmao who cares about FI warm up matchups?

Monet "almost defeated" luffy because of some special effect of her fruit, not because she was "omg so strong that can almost take down luffy"
Also Vergo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Monet, and Vergo didn't even take Sanji down. Their battle ended because Vergo left xD

"about to clash". What kind of garbage ass argument is it to create some fanfic on your head of "what could happen" and act as it is canon? LMAO.
Also, saying Pica>Diamante purely because of the golem is some nice copium. All Pica did was hide for the entire battle and, once his golem trick was useless, he got one shot. Meanwhile Diamante's unit is the FIGHTING unit. But sure, keep coping that Pica is "on a league of his own" because he said once that he was gonna kill Fuji and the marines or some shit. xD

"How to tell people I didn't read WCI without telling people I didn't read WCI".

Sanji uses Page One as test subject for his new suit.
You> "hur dur clashed".
"sanji got negged by black maria". OF COURSE HE DID. HE CAN'T FIGHT BACK LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO.
If that's your argument, since Vivi negs diff Sanji, then Vivi can neg diff Queen, apparently? what kind of absolutely garbage argument is this "a woman neg diffed Sanji" in fucking 2023, almost 2024?? :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

Seriously.
This post is so bad and biased, that it can't possibly be a serious post.
It was a good joke, man. I laughed a lot reading it.
xD
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such nonsense, when did Dragon train Robin? cause in the manga Robin trained with Sabo, Hack and Koala……

There were somethings the guy said that were way exegerated but you on the other hand twisted all the facts and now it sound like you are using 2 piece for the bases of your wild delusion

WG Sanji fans are wild
 
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