Why are some Americans insecure and whiny?

thanks for being reasonable first off while giving your perspective

parkland happened before the pandemic due to laws that were present before the pandemic so honestly I see these shootings as more of a recurring problem that the country has always had regardless of the pandemic . The concern to protect oneself is genuine but the need to do so with a gun is also heightened by the fact that criminal in all likelihood have access to guns themselves.

law abiding citizens who think guns are vital to their protection most I reckon have not lived in environments where guns are less prevalent in society. as someone who has I think the first step is assuring enough people that this is possible . I brought up other countries as an example to residents here. Am fairly certain a lot are able to protect themselves without guns. america isnt the only country with criminals or mentally ill people.

collective punishment is massively unpopular but on gun control you will be surprised . Most americans would be in favor for stricter gun control measures.
The problem is you can't just thanos snap and make all the millions of guns in circulation disappear. Even if you could, it would still be in a rational person's interest to have a gun for protection even at the exclusion of others. It's strictly an advantage and an equalizer, your granny could have an AR 15 and defend herself against an intruder. Even if you're physically capable without guns defending yourself or your family becomes problematic very quickly if you're outnumbered. You wouldn't be able to sell me on stripping myself of a gun for some collective good or whatever. You would be able to convince me to move far away from anyone else
 
The best argument you can have for owning a gun is exactly watching those cops stand around, the fuck are they going to do if you get attacked besides pick up the body of one guy and place the other in cuffs

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those parents wouldnt have been allowed to go in even if they armed themselves

if they did
they would be opposing the police instruction
which enters another interesting conversation in the country.
 

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:ohreally: Human race is an auto destructive race. If you will leave them toys on the view without anything to take them away from them they will use it and do something with or without premeditation. To wield a gun you should have tests and papers to have them and for every kind of it separate papers since each of them have different strength. If you need it for protection first learn how to use it and not wield it because you can hurt someone dear to you by accident. Besides have on mind fact that how on the first place some kind of a psycho has it. In US. Where people see guns all the time. Where in Europe for a brief example I see guns only as an exposition or in the shooting ranges where they should stay forever.

Besides with or without guns on a hand range, people will find a way to attack you and you don't need a gun to defend yourself from someone who does not have one. People are scared of guns and people with guns feel that power that when they wield that they are unstoppable. That is why in many countries where guns are not allowed for citizens you go through psychological tests and get papers for it.
 
The problem is you can't just thanos snap and make all the millions of guns in circulation disappear. Even if you could, it would still be in a rational person's interest to have a gun for protection even at the exclusion of others. It's strictly an advantage and an equalizer, your granny could have an AR 15 and defend herself against an intruder. Even if you're physically capable without guns defending yourself or your family becomes problematic very quickly if you're outnumbered. You wouldn't be able to sell me on stripping myself of a gun for some collective good or whatever. You would be able to convince me to move far away from anyone else
thats a fair concern which is why stricter regulation will have to be done gradually to reduce guns in circulation and also the types of guns in circulation.
thinking every gun would be wiped out just with a single law is naive
it will take some time

not doing anything and maintaining the current status quo tho is unacceptable
but who am I
just a canadian out in california to make bank and retire.
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personally to protect ourselves
My dad and I fancy a bat . after seeing kaido with his club
its a much better fighting style


but luckily we never had to use it
always lived in a good area I guess
 
Imagine if they just banned the mass sale and production of guns to ordinary civilians.

Then every time a criminal is apprehended and their guns are confiscated, there are less guns in circulation. The law abiding citizens won't lose their guns, but criminals will.

The reason illegal gun trade is a thing is because it is so easy for one to obtain guns in america. A felon can easily get a gun by asking a non-felon to buy it for them. Similarly, anyone who wishes to commit a murder can just order their murder weapon off the internet.
But if it was much harder to produce and sell guns, this would never happen.
 
thats a fair concern which is why stricter regulation will have to be done gradually to reduce guns in circulation and also the types of guns in circulation.
thinking every gun would be wiped out just with a single law is naive
it will take some time

not doing anything and maintaining the current status quo tho is unacceptable
but who am I
Laws are an abstraction. Somebody, somewhere, has to physically eliminate or repossess the guns. Nearly half a million. You risk making a large percentage of people who are law abiding into criminals. It's a huge problem from a practical standpoint. If you're a democratic politician, instead of trying to take on that massive undertaking, you pass the ball to someone else while you pass some feel good bill about limiting how many doodads you can put on a rifle and calling it a day.

just a canadian out in california to make bank and retire.
I am twice sorry for you =]
 
Laws are an abstraction. Somebody, somewhere, has to physically eliminate or repossess the guns. Nearly half a million. You risk making a large percentage of people who are law abiding into criminals. It's a huge problem from a practical standpoint. If you're a democratic politician, instead of trying to take on that massive undertaking, you pass the ball to someone else while you pass some feel good bill about limiting how many doodads you can put on a rifle and calling it a day.



I am twice sorry for you =]

what you have just explained is called taking the easy way out and why this country is closer to every citizen walking around with guns, children included than the solution many other countries in the world were able to embrace. if that doesnt sound dystopian to you , I have no words. democratic politicians are typically placed in power by people who voted them in there so should americans be successful in voting representatives with strong stances on gun control, then such law might in fact be in line with the majority population.

why are you sorry for me lol
 
what you have just explained is called taking the easy way out and why this country is closer to every citizen walking around with guns, children included than the solution many other countries in the world were able to embrace. if that doesnt sound dystopian to you , I have no words. democratic politicians are typically placed in power by people who voted them in there so should americans be successful in voting representatives with strong stances on gun control, then such law might in fact be in line with the majority population.

why are you sorry for me lol
yeah ill take the easy way out, if you can't tell based on some of my positions here im checked the fuck out of trying to salvage this hellhole, gonna go get me a homestead and watch the world burn

im sorry because canada and california. just a joke
 
America will always have favorable gun policy for normal people in our life time, the folks are stressing for nothing here.
how many lives have to be lost before it does
its right to stress
this should not be viewed as normal.
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yeah ill take the easy way out, if you can't tell based on some of my positions here im checked the fuck out of trying to salvage this hellhole, gonna go get me a homestead and watch the world burn

im sorry because canada and california. just a joke
you sound real edgy mate lol. yeah you have given up hope
I havent


well if you think canada and california are just a joke without explaining why. sorry you feel that way.
nothing to feel sorry for me for tho lol.
 
how many lives have to be lost before it does
its right to stress
this should not be viewed as normal.
Its a matter of political choices, and at this point the population is to hooked on that gun ownership privileges. No one will change shit, even if its something straight up bad af. The riots will be to violent for the us political party to do anything, not that they want to do anything in the first place.
 
Its a matter of political choices, and at this point the population is to hooked on that gun ownership privileges. No one will change shit, even if its something straight up bad af. The riots will be to violent for the us political party to do anything, not that they want to do anything in the first place.
you say no one will change shit yet you say america will have favorable gun laws in our lifetime.
sounds like a walking contradiction

but gun rights are normal in the U.S tho

You cannot just make a law that goes against the populous, we don't live in a dictatorship
most polls show most americans would be in favor of stricter gun control

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/
 
you say no one will change shit yet you say america will have favorable gun laws in our lifetime.
sounds like a walking contradiction



most polls show most americans would be in favor of stricter gun control

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/
yeah gun control are things like background checks and red flag laws which is sensible.

But the moment you talk about gun bans that number plummets. People here still want their guns
 
you say no one will change shit yet you say america will have favorable gun laws in our lifetime.
sounds like a walking contradiction



most polls show most americans would be in favor of stricter gun control

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/
you say no one will change shit yet you say america will have favorable gun laws in our lifetime.- yeah no one will change shit and america will have favorable gun laws for normal citizens, whats contradictory here? Or do you know something we dont, because so far, it look like this gun policy is more like a tradition than anything else, and traditions does not change in 2-3 years.
 
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