Questions & Mysteries Why are Vinsmokes so weak?

We never saw Judge fight Snack.

Ichiji didn't destroy Oven, Oven was perfectly fine after Ichiji's attack

Ichiji only punched Perospero once, he did not smack him around a bit.

Niji only attacked Oven they did not clash

The rest are true.
# On Judge
It was implied that he did. We saw Snack and another figure confront Judge towards the end of whole cake Island arc and he was perfectly fine the next time we saw him after a bit of time had elapsed. IIRC it was around when Lilin showed up that we saw him last which is pretty good hype for Judge.

# On Oven
I wouldn't say he was perfectly fine as he did take significant damage from it, he just wasn't taken out by it, to his credit as the most durable Charlotte save Lilin but that encounter with Ichiji ended the moment he took the full brunt of Ichiji's attack. In a full on fight it prolly wouldn't have been as easy for Ichiji to put down Oven the way he did but I'd wager Ichiji beats him in a proper 1 v 1.

# On Niji
That's what a clash is man. And in said clash IIRC, Niji was the one who engaged Oven with a kick and then the later blocked his attack.

Anyways the point of of that bit was to help establish that each of the Vinz kids are portrayed to be around Vet level at least (Yonji included) and then Judge a tad higher given he was matched up against Snack which is proof that the vinsmokes are far from weak. In comparison to the Yonkou and YCs they fall short, but how many armies can actually match them. It took only Jack and an army of gifters/pleasures to lay the momoduke kingdom to waste. Even Wano that is hyped up to be very strong can't compare to the beast pirates which falls to reason as Kaidou is an Emperor (i.e. one of the 4 rulers of the new world)
 
The Vinsmoke are strong period

5 VET to Low high tier with a powerful army and powerful techs is great.

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Wano
Minks
Germa



Fisher Tiger wasn't weak at all.

His last fight can be underwhelming but it was a flashback and in Oda flashback there are no flashy things and everyone can die from a gun shot. Then he was just betrayed by humans again and was shocked and disgusted. Strawberry and the marine trapped him but I don't think Fisher had the will to put up a real fight.

The guy was stronger than Jimbo
The guy was a legend among all fish men
The guy was revered by everyone

Fisher tiger is among the best character in One piece.
His will was broken and will and Haki are two sides of a coin.
 
Personally, I think they were designed to sell merchandise.
Are they way more popular with Japanese readers? Who the heck was hyped to play them in PW4?
I also think they will have a bigger role to play, especially with their cloning technology.
 
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