Character Discussion Why did Oda make King so much better than Katakuri in every way?

Why did Oda make Katakuri garbage compared to King?


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#42
He was in hybrid, that’s what his hybrid form is. And Marcos smiling against King and Queen, is he still “not fighting seriously”

And you’ll have to post the panel because Marco may have blocked a single attack, but he and Vista both attacked Akainu simultaneously and he just said “annoying.”

No, it is not, the hybrid form is just that, it is the junction of the two, and not simply transforming a part of the body and maintaining the human rest. And no, March is not fighting 100% against King and Queen, he is destroying both without much effort, it is very evident.

So what if he said that? If he had been superior he would have at least pushed March backwards, which he failed to do. Marco said a similar thing because of Kizaru's shots. Phrases don't matter, what matters is feats.
 
#43
No, it is not, the hybrid form is just that, it is the junction of the two, and not simply transforming a part of the body and maintaining the human rest. And no, March is not fighting 100% against King and Queen, he is destroying both without much effort, it is very evident.

So what if he said that? If he had been superior he would have at least pushed March backwards, which he failed to do. Marco said a similar thing because of Kizaru's shots. Phrases don't matter, what matters is feats.
Marco in his partial form gets every benefit of hybrid, he gets healing/speed/mobility/power but can also use his legs in combat..........the only thing he will get in a typical hybrid is use of hands but marco uses his legs for most part
 
#45
No, it is not, the hybrid form is just that, it is the junction of the two, and not simply transforming a part of the body and maintaining the human rest. And no, March is not fighting 100% against King and Queen, he is destroying both without much effort, it is very evident.

So what if he said that? If he had been superior he would have at least pushed March backwards, which he failed to do. Marco said a similar thing because of Kizaru's shots. Phrases don't matter, what matters is feats.
And Marcos feats are much more lackluster than Sabo’s. Show me Marco causing injury to one admiral. pero even saw him and mentioned that Marco seems to be at his limit. And Marco being bloodied and bruised is him holding back? yeah okay.
 
#46
Marco in his partial form gets every benefit of hybrid, he gets healing/speed/mobility/power but can also use his legs in combat..........the only thing he will get in a typical hybrid is use of hands but marco uses his legs for most part
I agree, but the main advantage of the hybrid form is that it empowers the user Zoan, bringing human and animal strength together. Marco hasn't shown it yet, he still has that powerful shape.
 
#47
Lol no. Katakuri failed to KO Luffy after 50+ hits so unless he has extremely weak willpower he doesn’t have Adv CoC. If anything King having it is extremely more likely than Katakuri having it lol
Luffy just got up after taking an AdCoC attack from Kaido, and you can expect him to do so after many more of those hits to come. This is the same guy who took a point blank Boro breath and kept going like it was nothing. When Luffy gets into fight mode, and gets serious, then no matter what you do to him, he'll continue to get back up. Katakuri failing to put him down means nothing, because when everything is at stake, Luffy will not stay down.
 
#48
I agree, but the main advantage of the hybrid form is that it empowers the user Zoan, bringing human and animal strength together. Marco hasn't shown it yet, he still has that powerful shape.
But that is the point marco gets good mobility power and speed.....he can combine his df attributes in his human form.......imo the only thing that will change if he has/uses the hybrid is his use of hands in combat.........we will see
 
#49
And Marcos feats are much more lackluster than Sabo’s. Show me Marco causing injury to one admiral. pero even saw him and mentioned that Marco seems to be at his limit. And Marco being bloodied and bruised is him holding back? yeah okay.
Did you read the manga? Why the manga where I read it, Marco was fine until Kairouseki's handcuffs were put in it.

Akainu was also wounded at the end of the war. I don't think Marco is more powerful than Akainu. But there is not a single feat that puts Sabor close to Marco.
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But that is the point marco gets good mobility power and speed.....he can combine his df attributes in his human form.......imo the only thing that will change if he has/uses the hybrid is his use of hands in combat.........we will see
No, the hybrid form is Human Power + Animal Power, which means that it does not use only animal speed or only human speed, but both at the same time. That’s why it’s the strongest form of Zoan users.
 
#50
Did you read the manga? Why the manga where I read it, Marco was fine until Kairouseki's handcuffs were put in it.

Akainu was also wounded at the end of the war. I don't think Marco is more powerful than Akainu. But there is not a single feat that puts Sabor close to Marco.
Sabo - Injured admirals

Marco - Didnt injure admirals

show me one panel of Marco injuring an Admiral
 
#52
Sabo - Injured admirals

Marco - Didnt injure admirals

show me one panel of Marco injuring an Admiral
Show me a panel of an Admirals injuring Marco without handcuffs from Kairouseki.

Show a Sabo fight against Akainu or Kizaru.

You are comparing a fight from an Admirals that didn’t even have Logia, remembering that at Marineford the concepts of Haki were not even established, we don’t see any armament Haki for example.

Remembering that Issho did not even take the sword completely out of its sheath, he did not take the fight seriously and the "injury" was somewhat laughable.
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And thats what marco gets in his partial form
No, because if he turns his leg into a Phoenix leg, he only has the strength of Phoenix in his leg. And not the Phoenix + Human combination, which is the centerpiece of the hybrid form.
 
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No, because if he turns his leg into a Phoenix leg, he only has the strength of Phoenix in his leg. And not the Phoenix + Human combination, which is the centerpiece of the hybrid form.
What? lol..........if he gets advantages of his df in base when he kicks what has that to do anything whether he is fully transformed or not? It should generate same power output during kicking
 
#54
What? lol..........if he gets advantages of his df in base when he kicks what has that to do anything whether he is fully transformed or not? It should generate same power output during kicking
What I meant is that, although the Phoenix-transformed leg is stronger than the normal Human leg, it still doesn’t have the same power as the Hybrid leg, because the Hybrid leg is the power of the leg Human + the Phoenix leg. This is literally the asset of the hybrid form shown since CP9.
 
#56
What I meant is that, although the Phoenix-transformed leg is stronger than the normal Human leg, it still doesn’t have the same power as the Hybrid leg, because the Hybrid leg is the power of the leg Human + the Phoenix leg. This is literally the asset of the hybrid form shown since CP9.
Hmm why not hybrid or partial marco's leg is still covered with blue flames and transformed
 
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