Character Discussion Why did Oda turn the Gorosei into the clones of the same single braincelled evildoer who behave like caricatures?

[LolonoisZolo]

Because they always acted like one braincell idiots; every decision they took that we know of could have been better if a single 12 year old took them instead.
The only difference is that they used to show a slight semblance of emotions which they didn't in Egghead.

Always have been bad strategists.

 

[trav]

What emotion was he showing then?

He was pissed.
Even after 800y people still managed to find out the truth they are trying to hide.

Anime got in your head.

 

[Buusatan94]

Because they always acted like one braincell idiots; every decision they took that we know of could have been better if a single 12 year old took them instead.
The only difference is that they used to show a slight semblance of emotions which they didn't in Egghead.

Always have been bad strategists.

I mean I don't think that we have seen a good strategist yet in One Piece, especially knowing the differences between tactics and strategy.

 

[silverfire]

Ju Peter showed some humanity and looked distressed during Ohara and Topman seemed to care about human-fishman relations

Yep, agreed completely. Their characterization has changed and has become simpler.

luckily, that complexity got handed to some key (ex)marines

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I mean I don't think that we have seen a good strategist yet in One Piece, especially knowing the differences between tactics and strategy.

Funny enough, Big Mom's had better strategies than them. Her plan to trap and kill the Vinsmokes and take their tech was actually kind of smart.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

They were always bastards, it's just they had to get their own hands dirty for once.

 

[Kumathegoat]

The Gorosei are stupid.

Imu is stupid.

The World Government is stupid

The Marines are stupid.

Oda never hid that.

 

[vikas]

He did not seem stressed. You interpreted it that way.
Agree with the general sentiment though. They used to be better characters.

Anime showed him stressed too though

 

[trav]

Anime showed him stressed too though

Which is irrelevant since anime is not canon.
Anime is also the source of the misconception that Sanji is particularly fast. Its not reflected in the canon material.

 

[vikas]

Which is irrelevant since anime is not canon.
Anime is also the source of the misconception that Sanji is particularly fast. Its not reflected in the canon material.

It's far more relevant than what you think of that scene.

 

[Water1415]

How'd he get banned

 

[vikas]

How'd he get banned

It was an alt

 

[trav]

It's far more relevant than what you think of that scene.

Its not.
Anime may as well not exist. It has no bearing on the canon material.
Go to the anime subforum if you want to discuss adaptations.

 

[vikas]

Its not.
Anime may as well not exist. It has no bearing on the canon material.
Go to the anime subforum if you want to discuss adaptations.

Brah why would I even listen to you instead of what the official Anime guys do. You have no credibility at all.

 

[trav]

official Anime guys

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Saturn's beard covered the entire lower half of his face.

Which is what happens in that panel...?

That guy is clearly Saturn, his profile is consistently highlighted throughout the chapter; here you have the panels from the colored version:

There's no trait in this face that reminds of Ju Peter.

 

[GinnysHusband]

Which is what happens in that panel...?

That guy is clearly Saturn, his profile is consistently highlighted throughout the chapter; here you have the panels from the colored version:

There's no trait in this face that reminds of Ju Peter.

While I wouldn't use the colored manga for reference I think you're right since Saturn was drawn facing left throughout the chapter and it was either Ju Peter or Ethanbaron who gave the order to shoot Clover.

He was pissed.
Even after 800y people still managed to find out the truth they are trying to hide.

Anime got in your head.

They clearly treasured Clover and his non-poneglyph research.

 

[ShogunRyoma]

fr fr

 

[Terminall]

Holy Knights will not be any better. Kaido was the last good antagonist unless you like Blackbeard but I hate Blackbeard and commander Mihawk is unworthy of getting characterization just a future Zoro victim who's flashback will be less than Kaido's assuming he even gets one because he already had his origins SBS'd.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Holy Knights will not be any better. Kaido was the last good antagonist unless you like Blackbeard but I hate Blackbeard and commander Mihawk is unworthy of getting characterization just a future Zoro victim who's flashback will be less than Kaido's assuming he even gets one because he already had his origins SBS'd.

Kaido
Good antagonist

Those two things are not inclusive, you have to pick one