Chapter Discussion Why do Admirals still have fans after this chapter

[Juanpiz]

how tf are u still a kaido fan after what he has done to wano ppl ?

He is a friggin inhuman oni

 

[MUUGEN]

After seeing what Celestial Dragons did to Kuma & his family how can you still be a fan of AdmlraLs who’s job is to protect slave owners?

Shameful

@Extravlad @kurwa @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung @The White Crane @Tejas @MonsterKaido

braindeads they still believe Admirals>=Yonko

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Morality in op is grey it's not black and white. Admirals have interesting designs, powers and characters

I aint ever leaving

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Big Mom literally wanted an entire land where all races could co-exist. She was bad don't get me wrong but she didn't go around genociding groups for sport every 3 years.

Even Kaido is arguably less bad than the CDs.

Kaido was all business. Not sport.

Maybe Xebec wasn't the bad guy after all. His crew members had some good intents initially, although still cruel in practice.

Kaido was waiting for JoyBoy or wanted to be Joyboy himself.

 

[Blackbeard]

Teach is my favorite character, on some days Doffy ranks higher than the admirals for me, and he's pure scum. That's what makes characters like them entertaining. So are basically every villain Luffy has faced. Just horrible, horrible people. Even a minor villain like Captain Kuro schemed to murder his entire crew, Crocodile was a war monger and profiteer of the worst degree, Kaido, Big Mom and Doffy were literal human traffickers, all of them responsible for literally thousands of deaths and ruined lives. Moriah was a kidnapper who threw his victims overboard to their deaths when they didn't fulfill his purposes, Enel was in the planet destroying business.

I found Big Mom's most entertaining moments when she was at her most cunning and most evil, e.g. when she was about to gleefully exterminate the vinsmokes, sending severed heads along with wedding invites, etc. Honestly I wish Oda had kept that energy with her rather than "weeding cake" and o-lin- that's what you'd what expect of a pirate warlord with the title of emperor.

If a character has to be morally pure for you to be a fan, you should be stanning the likes of Otohime and T-Bone. (who's also an underrated badass of a marine)

For real man.

My favorite top 5 is composed of:

A stinking terrorist - Teach.
A hypocrite dictator - Akainu.
A narcissist enslaver - Saturn.

That's enough low morality to give Cumllalala a stroke.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Admirals are cool

Their hardcore fans being delusional won't change that

Ironically the respect for admirals would sky rocket without the type of fanbase they have.

 

[Pringles]

Admirals are cool

Their hardcore fans being delusional won't change that

I love the admirals and the marines. I love Garp, I love Fujitora, I love Kizaru, I love Aokiji. I love Coby. I don't like Akainu but he is strong and respectable. Greenbull is the one that I respect the least (related to the Celestial Dragons).

I don't like the fans who have a toxic view of them, whose life and story revolves around them, and put them at a level where they aren't.

I don't like the fans who don't understand that this is a story about pirates and the pirate Monkey D. Luffy and who think that this is about admirals.

I don't like the fans who have such a toxic view of the admirals that they think that they matter more than they do. Admirals are very strong but they are not at the same strength than the yonko, they are not at the same strength than the five elders, they are not at the same strength than Imu or the Pirate King. Admirals are very strong but they are not EOS strength material.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Kizaru is just a walking punching bag that doesn't contribute anything to the progress of Chad-Yonkou Luffy's dream. Kaido and Big Mom had the most precious thing for Luffy to become the Pirate King, which was the Road Poneglyphs and treasures. They took a very important piece (WANO) of the story out of the hands of a monster and tyrant like Kaido... Kizaru? He's kicked and that's it. LMAO.

 

[silverfire]

Admirals are very strong but they are not at the same strength than the yonko, they are not at the same strength than the five elders, they are not at the same strength than Imu or the Pirate King.

That’s right, they’re stronger than all of the above.

I don't like the fans who don't understand that this is a story about pirates and the pirate Monkey D. Luffy and who think that this is about admirals.

The only reason the story isn't Admiral Piece is because Oda made the very unfortunate decision to not make Akainu the main character. :/

 

[Gorosei Informer]

True fans dont abandon their favourite characters out of petty agendas/powerscaling/chapters that make them look bad or w/e.

Speaking especially as a proud Stan of Eustass Kidd too regardless, as well an Admiral Stan myself too lol.

 

[DarkWitch]

Teach is my favorite character, on some days Doffy ranks higher than the admirals for me, and he's pure scum. That's what makes characters like them entertaining. So are basically every villain Luffy has faced. Just horrible, horrible people. Even a minor villain like Captain Kuro schemed to murder his entire crew, Crocodile was a war monger and profiteer of the worst degree, Kaido, Big Mom and Doffy were literal human traffickers, all of them responsible for literally thousands of deaths and ruined lives. Moriah was a kidnapper who threw his victims overboard to their deaths when they didn't fulfill his purposes, Enel was in the planet destroying business.

I found Big Mom's most entertaining moments when she was at her most cunning and most evil, e.g. when she was about to gleefully exterminate the vinsmokes, sending severed heads along with wedding invites, etc. Honestly I wish Oda had kept that energy with her rather than "weeding cake" and o-lin- that's what you'd what expect of a pirate warlord with the title of emperor.

If a character has to be morally pure for you to be a fan, you should be stanning the likes of Otohime and T-Bone. (who's also an underrated badass of a marine)

For real man.

My favorite top 5 is composed of:

A stinking terrorist - Teach.
A hypocrite dictator - Akainu.
A narcissist enslaver - Saturn.

That's enough low morality to give Cumllalala a stroke.

Yep very true! Some of my most favorite characters or group of characters are really evil.

I really like the Five Elders so far such as Saturn.

Queen was one of my most favorite characters in the Wano arc and that guy was one of the most cruel and sadistic characters in Wano.

Not counting Luffy, Blackbeard is my favorite Yonko.

And one of my top 5 favorite characters and villains is Doflamingo and we all know how evil that guy was.

Heck I even did like Orochi a little bit as well.

Even though Swallalala changed the topic, it still backfired on him.

 

[BlackLegFring]

I always find it odd when people who are blatant fans of some of the most evil characters like this Swallalla/Tejas fellow turn around to say that people shouldn’t like characters who aren’t saints.

Antagonists will always be some of the most interesting characters that you’ll find in any story. It’s not a crime to like quality antagonists when there are more boring options out there.

 

[Juanpiz]

I always find it odd when people who are blatant fans of some of the most evil characters like this Swallalla/Tejas fellow turn around to say that people shouldn’t like characters who aren’t saints.

Antagonists will always be some of the most interesting characters that you’ll find in any story. It’s not a crime to like quality antagonists when there are more boring options out there.

Just look at DN where the protagonist (light) and antagonist(L) are both popular and appreciated

 

[сука]

Isn't that a sexual predator in your avy?

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

True fans dont abandon their favourite characters out of petty agendas/powerscaling/chapters that make them look bad or w/e.

Speaking especially as a proud Stan of Eustass Kidd too regardless, as well an Admiral Stan myself too lol.

 

[Fuckthis3]

The real question why this bait thread have 4 pages? Yall no better than swallalala Smh

 

[DarkWitch]

Kizaru is just a walking punching bag that doesn't contribute anything to the progress of Chad-Yonkou Luffy's dream. Kaido and Big Mom had the most precious thing for Luffy to become the Pirate King, which was the Road Poneglyphs and treasures. They took a very important piece (WANO) of the story out of the hands of a monster and tyrant like Kaido... Kizaru? He's kicked and that's it. LMAO.

"Kizaru is just a walking punching bag."

Meanwhile Kaido:

Spoiler

Like always Lasaki, you are nothing but an absolute joke and a hypocrite.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Isn't that a sexual predator in your avy?

:laughmoji:

 

[сука]

:laughmoji:

your mom has a beautiful smile

 

[LeSSeraphim]

I mean,the admirals having supporters in the first place just goes to show a lot of OP fans are literal kids who are so pressed and stuck in their ego that they'd support terrible people and make excuses.

Now if someone is a fan of the admirals as villains but realises they're terrible people then that makes sense,cause theyre some amazing asss villains
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Yep! Imagine calling out people who like Admirals because of their job, but ignore the fact that the Yonko's have done some horrible things.

Kaido murdered a huge number of people and enslaved the people of Wano, Big Mom would destroy islands and murder all the people, she also committed rape, and Blackbeard has done some horrible stuff as well.

Yeah Admirals aren't perfect, but acting like they are the worse characters out there is just fucking dumb.

Admirals are just as evil as kaido and BM,the fact that theyre basic pillars of a ruling system thats way worse and way bigger than kaido and big moms shit makes it a FACT that he admirals are shitty evil people.

Are they great characters ans antagonists?most fuckin definitely.
But acting like they're not straight up evil fascist cunts is just you being delusional
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You can like a fictional character even if he's morally repugnant, but still disagree with his ethics or morals.

True but the issues he's referring to( i think ) is that admiral fanboys act like theyre not completely immoral hypocritical assholes,which they actually undoubtedly are
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Bro youre literally shitting on real people for not liking the fictional characters you like and you made NO points whatsoever.
Only one being neurotic here is you,hypocrite
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Morality is temporary, but drip is forever.

Hate them or love them,nobody can argue these bastards are insanely drippy
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There's Kid fans so it's irrelevant the character traits.

Kid fans arent acting like he's a good guy tho,they know he's an unethical pos.

Admiral fans on the other hand try to justify slavery instead of accepting that their favourite characters are the villains and evil af