Break Week Why do some people lie about Luffys state after fighting Lucci?

#64
As I said: agenda driven drivel.
Where is the agenda ? Do you serious believe Luffy without any advanced Haki would Split the Sky ? Or fight with hybrid Kaido on equal grounds (as good as Base Luffy did )

Moreover according to Kaido himself Haki > Abilities. So why you think it's an exception for G5 ?
 
#65
Where is the agenda ? Do you serious believe Luffy without any advanced Haki would Split the Sky ? Or fight with hybrid Kaido on equal grounds (as good as Base Luffy did )

Moreover according to Kaido himself Haki > Abilities. So why you think it's an exception for G5 ?
Kaidou was once again drunk when he said that
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#66
Nothing showed he fainted
But luffy did faint and got rescued by jinbei
@Fleet Leader Fenaker bro you literally like everything your zoro bros say even if its factually wrong lmao. Its kinda insane the hive mentality going on.


Because you're wrong. Here's the next frame where Lucci is fine, not the one you showed. .
I know about this frame but you guys use the other one to show hes fine. So why would I show this one? This frame was the page prior with Luffys state nowhere to be seen but the next page we see Luffy and hes fine.

So how am I wrong?
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Lucci looks better than Luffy
One is fine and smiling and the other has bandages on.
 
#67
You defined Zoro's fandom. Stop projecting. Y'all should have left after the ZKK fiasco. No shame.
If the only kind of “argument” you can use is “ZKK this, ZKK that”, there is no need for you to quote me again. Thanks.
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Where is the agenda ? Do you serious believe Luffy without any advanced Haki would Split the Sky ? Or fight with hybrid Kaido on equal grounds (as good as Base Luffy did )

Moreover according to Kaido himself Haki > Abilities. So why you think it's an exception for G5 ?
If you truly and sincerely believe that Base Luffy with Haki is stronger than G5 (which is a god like level transformation with reality warping abilities called the “peak” of Luffy’s power) we will never meet eye to eye and we will just waste each others time.
Therefore there is no need to go further.
 
#69
bro you literally like everything your zoro bros say even if its factually wrong lmao. Its kinda insane the hive mentality going on.
they are right , nothing says that Lucci got koed and no panel got provided we all hear just excuses and only fact remains is :
1/ Luffy using his peak form and Power doesn't mean Luffy is playing on low effort , he's using awakening this is like saying Doffy using awakening means he's putting low effort level while any mf who Doffy used awakening against already put the fight at high diff .

2/ Luffy clashed equally against Lucci which some clowns want us to ignore and calling it a call back or whatever like it's a mistake .

3/ Lucci recovered fast from the exchange and based on it , he said He isn't emperor level which you saw how it got translated against a nerfed mentally conflicted admiral with his ass stamina .
 
#71
If the only kind of “argument” you can use is “ZKK this, ZKK that”, there is no need for you to quote me again. Thanks.
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If you truly and sincerely believe that Base Luffy with Haki is stronger than G5 (which is a god like level transformation with reality warping abilities called the “peak” of Luffy’s power) we will never meet eye to eye and we will just waste each others time.
Therefore there is no need to go further.
Yeah I mean I won't waste time with your agenda driven drivel
It's a consensus that 3 advanced Hakis are better than just Awakening even in the manga
 
#74
With 3 advanced haki luffy got bonked.
Awakening is the peak for DF users.
In terms of haki types of mihawk , Roger, garp , shanks will always take the win.
Without 3 advanced Hakis he wouldn't win either and would have lost even quicker

If you really want me to take you seriously don't put garp/Roger with Shanks and even more Lihawk
 
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Cruxroux

#76
Without 3 advanced Hakis he wouldn't win either and would have lost even quicker

If you really want me to take you seriously don't put garp/Roger with Shanks and even more Lihawk
Awakening is the peak , that's why it came after all the power ups , think.
For swordsman that's black blade.

Mihawk stands at the top accept it or not.
 
#77
It’s pretty obvious: they’re trying to be purposefully disingenuous. I was arguing with one yesterday after all.

It’s just a predictable attempt to try and downplay Luffy’s awful state after fighting Kizaru.
It’s just childish petulance that their fantasies about Kizaru being “low differ” didn’t happen.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#78
Awakening is the peak , that's why it came after all the power ups , think.
For swordsman that's black blade.

Mihawk stands at the top accept it or not.
Kaido: Haki trumps all.

Kaido: Only a handful of the very strongest can use ACoC, its the power of the very strongest.

Curxroux: aWakEnIng is PeaK.

G5 without ACoC wouldnt have beaten Kaido.
 
#79
I used to bring up Lucci to compare his fight with Kizaru's the chapter after the 1HKO, but there's nothing to compare anymore.


Luffy's current state after an extremely short encounter with Kizaru, who not only didn't focus on him but also didn't even do anything to push him at all, is laughable.

Nothing other than Oda wanting Luffy to be out for a while can explain Luffy's current state.

On the other hand, the way Kizaru was put out of commission for a while with a single aCoC punch was also laughable for Kizaru (precisely because he's expected to be a top tier. No one ever expected him to be a tank like Kaido but one punch is too much). Oda simply needed him out for a while.

Now that we have gotten more chapters we have a wider picture... Kizaru is definitely looking better in the end. He's up and about like nothing happened, while Luffy is having to "recharge" by eating like a cow and it's still taking him longer to get up, he could have died a hundred times by now. But it doesn't feel like a "Kizaru greatness" moment, it feels like a competition to see who did slightly less terribly in this fumble of a fight.



Lucci also recovered in minutes. Be it because he's awakened or not, it's impressive how he was up the very same chapter he "went offline" with no consequences. He's cool and didn't stay down, give him some love.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#80
Lucci also recovered in minutes. Be it because he's awakened or not, it's impressive how he was up the very same chapter he "went offline" with no consequences. He's cool and didn't stay down, give him some love.
Oh I like Lucci, hes one of my favorite antagonists. I just dislike lying and disingenuousity for the sake of agenda.

Lucci recovered because he is awakened, this feat is overblown I mean you dont see people wanking the shit out of the minotaur that got one punched by Luffy because he got up a few pages later. Its the same thing for me.
 
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