Questions & Mysteries Why do you just assume Sanji defeated Page One?

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#83
I think they are in contact because they must be careful about not changing the course of the manga.
Extending the fight is not changing the course of the manga, it´s welcomed to gain as much minutes as possible from events considering how close the anime is to the manga regards to the story.

And still has the same open end as in the manga, so it´s no problem.
Sanji still looked superior, everything else has the same consequence.

Let me remind you of this genius extension of the anime.


Or Smoker only losing because he covered his subordinates, and actually put up a fight


I would sincerely prefer them doing filler stuff for a few years like Bleach or Naruto did and then adapt it faithfully.
Pre-TS anime was soooooo good.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#85
First of all manga never confirmed that Sanji took down page one.

We all assumes it happened.

So stop blaming TOEI for not showing What never happened in manga....that is Sanji defeating page one


The only criticism Toei deserve rn is that they portrayed Sanji running away while page one still being fine which didn't happen in manga...


Thus one can conclude that It's Drake who took down page one until further confirmation.


Also, Stop blaming zoro fans.. you guys were literally calling anime cannon to justify Sanji having koka. You guys were literally hyping Sanji having light speed based on anime..


And, now when it backfired you all jumping on us saying it's we who took anime as cannon or we are toxic...lmao


It's swing both ways you Know.....so chill
 

Cyrus the Cactus

Mihawk Reigns Supreme
#86
First of all manga never confirmed that Sanji took down page one.

We all assumes it happened.

So stop blaming TOEI for not showing What never happened in manga....that is Sanji defeating page one


The only criticism Toei deserve rn is that they portrayed Sanji running away while page one still being fine which didn't happen in manga...


Thus one can conclude that It's Drake who took down page one until further confirmation.


Also, Stop blaming zoro fans.. you guys were literally calling anime cannon to justify Sanji having koka. You guys were literally hyping Sanji having light speed based on anime..


And, now when it backfired you all jumping on us saying it's we who took anime as cannon or we are toxic...lmao


It's swing both ways you Know.....so chill
Nah man, Zoro fans are responsible for all the evil in the world, everyone else are perfectly pure angels.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#87
Nah man, Zoro fans are responsible for all the evil in the world, everyone else are perfectly pure angels.
Got used to such things from plastic fans who can't even stay loyal to their own favorite character and bash him when he isn't portrayed as per their own headcannon expectations yet try to have higher moral ground.....*cough*WCI*Cough*
 
#88
(1) The anime has blatantly contradicted the manga on multiple occasions. Cracker, Big Mom, and Kaido fights all had shit that contradicted the manga.

(2) Also, I have no fucking idea what you're talking about. The anime said nothing Page 1.

(3) Sanji stated he is going to get rid of Page One so he won't be in the war. There is nothing to discuss here.
Ok Lets bet. Page 1 will be
 
#89
Okay. I don't often post serious but Oda as multiple times said he struggles with evening of every protangist and character just as long as Usopp is the weakest. Zoro still has she'd light. Jinbe hasn't even had a fight. So before Sanjigasms get off, let's wait a bit longer into the arc.
 
#91
The anime is absolutely irrelevant when it comes about the manga.

Sanji said he's going to get rid of Page 1 while being uncovered by the other Beast Pirates. After that chapter, we saw Sanji not injured whilst that rampage clearly stopped.

Page One is defeated and he has no major role on that war anyway...
sanji said he will make big mom faint with his cake
sanji said he will save luffy but ended up saved by germa
 
#92
As things stand Sanji not defeating Page One is a very real possibility to me, which I wouldn't have said before

This is not a case of the anime extending a fight, but it still having the same outcome. The manga never showed the conclusion of Sanji vs Page One, and nobody in the manga has ever said that Sanji did defeat them. We had assumptions of what happened in the fight, but no actual proof. If anything, everyone seemed to think "maybe the anime will show how Sanji beat him since Oda hasn't." I think if they'd done that, nobody would really have commented on it.

But now we're in the position where the only conclusion to the fight we have is the anime one. And in that, Page One was very much undefeated at the end of the fight. So the question is, did Oda tell them to do that? Did he say "by the way, Page One is going to have a fight at the end of the arc, so leave him alive?" The anime has its myriad of problems, but very, very rarely would have they directly changed something like this. It's a very odd decision for them here. If they didn't know what happened- just leave it open ended like Oda actually did in the manga. Not this.
 
#93
sanji said he will make big mom faint with his cake
sanji said he will save luffy but ended up saved by germa
1.) True point.
2.) Well, Sanji did save Luffy. It's not like he hasn't done anything for Luffy.

Besides, do you guys really think that Page 1 will appear again when Oda simply off panelled how he was destroyed by Sanji?

Veteran level characters are irrelevant for current sanji. And now, Sanji is going to fight low/mid high tiers. That's his next step.
 
#94
People don't realize Toei would need to create a whole subplot to justify him not appearing in the war cuz his defeat( the ones who fail are punished).



Moreover if it was a clear win why go and do the contrary that doesn't add up.

There's so much one can say on " Toei hates Sanji "

Instead of simple powerlevels I think Oda used P1 for Drake plot plus it helps Drake who since Post time skip has no feats.

:few:
 
#95
1.) True point.
2.) Well, Sanji did save Luffy. It's not like he hasn't done anything for Luffy.

Besides, do you guys really think that Page 1 will appear again when Oda simply off panelled how he was destroyed by Sanji?

Veteran level characters are irrelevant for current sanji. And now, Sanji is going to fight low/mid high tiers. That's his next step.
why he should not appear again ?
sanji destroying page one? last time i read the chapter dude had kicks on him and dealt no damage
and page one sent him flying trough buildings
if sanji defeated page one why oda didn t showed?
 
#98
The anime is absolutely irrelevant when it comes about the manga.

Sanji said he's going to get rid of Page 1 while being uncovered by the other Beast Pirates. After that chapter, we saw Sanji not injured whilst that rampage clearly stopped.

Page One is defeated and he has no major role on that war anyway...
How ..

An artificial Zoan can recover from being washed by Luffy.

A real prehistoric Zoan can definitely recover when a whole week has passed.
Unless he's dead thanks to Drake or something...
 
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