Questions & Mysteries Why does Oda always force a rivalry between Law and Kid Luffy?
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Maybe because they actually are rivals? People just don't wanna see it
I don't understand the fruit argument. Why are people shocked that luffy with the Nika nika no mi is worth 3billion while Law with a 5 billion berry fruit was only worth 500million? Same as Blackbeard, he is the first man carrying two devil fruit, one of which was said to be capable of literally destroying the world and yet is only worth 2.25 billion? And probably in the 1.5 billion range prior to the Marco incident. And remember the event was broadcasted so using the excuse ''they wanted to hide the information'' can't be taken into consideration here
I think it's safe to say the WG don't take into account devil's fruit when handing out bounties, or only to a very low degree. It might be stupid but that's what they have always been doing.
And come on, taking down kaido with 3 breaks in-between, time for a feast, letting 12+ people inflict damage to your opponent without giving him a single minute break can't be seen as a proper 1v1
I don't understand the fruit argument. Why are people shocked that luffy with the Nika nika no mi is worth 3billion while Law with a 5 billion berry fruit was only worth 500million? Same as Blackbeard, he is the first man carrying two devil fruit, one of which was said to be capable of literally destroying the world and yet is only worth 2.25 billion? And probably in the 1.5 billion range prior to the Marco incident. And remember the event was broadcasted so using the excuse ''they wanted to hide the information'' can't be taken into consideration here
I think it's safe to say the WG don't take into account devil's fruit when handing out bounties, or only to a very low degree. It might be stupid but that's what they have always been doing.
And come on, taking down kaido with 3 breaks in-between, time for a feast, letting 12+ people inflict damage to your opponent without giving him a single minute break can't be seen as a proper 1v1
How to make the bounties actually make sense and have Kid and Law legit rivals to Luffy
The fight with Kaido and Big Mom is actually the 3 vs 2 the papers describe it as. Luffy does not completely outshine the other two by going toe to toe with Kaido while they have a 2 vs 1 with bombs. Kaido is not portrayed as the obvious final boss while Big Mom is the warmup.
Grand finale is Momo’s moving the island combined with Law having a big attack to weaken both while Luffy and Kid land the last hits that knock them clean out. Or even a combo attack from the three of them.
Then you need to actually give Kid and Law’s crews some important shit to do that rivals the Strawhats. Two ways to do that.
Way One, Zoro, Killer, Bepo take down the Calamities. Sanji and Jinbei for WW Sasaki, Bepo and Shachi for Ulti Page One, then Heat and Wire take BM and Hawkins. Nobody would like this much cause it shafts the Strawhats.
Better way is teamups.
Zoro and Killer vs King
Sanji and Bepo vs Queen
(The Mink Fights)
Then split Heat, Wire, Penguin and Shachi up with the TR fights.
An even split in the bounties would be more palatable then. Sure, there would still be the issue of territory and allies, but we could say the core crews came across equally.
What we got was just stupid even with the Gorosei trying to cover stuff up.
The fight with Kaido and Big Mom is actually the 3 vs 2 the papers describe it as. Luffy does not completely outshine the other two by going toe to toe with Kaido while they have a 2 vs 1 with bombs. Kaido is not portrayed as the obvious final boss while Big Mom is the warmup.
Grand finale is Momo’s moving the island combined with Law having a big attack to weaken both while Luffy and Kid land the last hits that knock them clean out. Or even a combo attack from the three of them.
Then you need to actually give Kid and Law’s crews some important shit to do that rivals the Strawhats. Two ways to do that.
Way One, Zoro, Killer, Bepo take down the Calamities. Sanji and Jinbei for WW Sasaki, Bepo and Shachi for Ulti Page One, then Heat and Wire take BM and Hawkins. Nobody would like this much cause it shafts the Strawhats.
Better way is teamups.
Zoro and Killer vs King
Sanji and Bepo vs Queen
(The Mink Fights)
Then split Heat, Wire, Penguin and Shachi up with the TR fights.
An even split in the bounties would be more palatable then. Sure, there would still be the issue of territory and allies, but we could say the core crews came across equally.
What we got was just stupid even with the Gorosei trying to cover stuff up.
There is no forced rivalry. They’ve been portrayed as rivals by Oda since the day Kidd was introduced and it won’t change. Been saying this. Fans just need to stop inserting their own headcanons into the relationship between them.
And anyway, the bounty isn’t even forcing any rivalry. The same way Luffy and Law got the same bounty after their alliance beat Doffy, Kidd Luffy and Laws alliance beat the yonko so they again get the same bounty. It’s consistent.
And anyway, the bounty isn’t even forcing any rivalry. The same way Luffy and Law got the same bounty after their alliance beat Doffy, Kidd Luffy and Laws alliance beat the yonko so they again get the same bounty. It’s consistent.
I bet you were one of those people who said Luffy is a bigger threat than Kidd because of Gear 4 back in Dressrosa without waiting to see Kidd's powerset.
I also bet you were totally fine when Luffy jumped 1 billion in bounty when the biggest jump he had pretimeskip was 200M. Inflation was hype back then wasn't it? 
It's only unpleasant because it's not happening to your self-insert. COPE
I also bet you were totally fine when Luffy jumped 1 billion in bounty when the biggest jump he had pretimeskip was 200M.
Inflation was hype back then wasn't it? It's only unpleasant because it's not happening to your self-insert. COPE
He’s not forcing anything. We are never meant to believe the Captain are equal to Luffy.
the gorosei are just downplaying Luffy
Luffy fans honestly need to stop being butthurt that the rivalry merely exists. Literally nobody believes they are equals or even on the same level.
the gorosei are just downplaying Luffy
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Luffy fans honestly need to stop being butthurt that the rivalry merely exists. Literally nobody believes they are equals or even on the same level.
