Character Discussion Why Enma and the Raid Suit are completely diffrent types of power-up

[langitbarat]

Just a reminder, Zoro's main & only theme is about fighting & battle. He's supposed to be very good at it (like Nami with navigation, Brook with music, etc). Him getting the better treatment (battle strength, powerups, fame, reaching rooftop to fight Kaido, etc) is respecting his role.

So in the end, Zoro's PU is "better".

Do note, Sanji's battle strength isn't just about raw power like Luffy / Zoro, so Sanji's PU is also revolves around his tactical prowess, like stealth.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

They call Sanji a fodder because he uses a power-up to get stronger but they don't say anything about Zoro using Enma which is a power-up itself.

The Enma power up isn't the same as the RS tho

You cant compare the two

 

[Doggo]

Of course you can.
Comparing two things is analyzing differences and similarities between them.
Do you even know what the words you write mean?
lol

Compare
1. estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Of course you can.
Comparing two things is analyzing differences and similarities between them.
Do you even know what the words you write mean?
lol

Compare
1. estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between.

Enma doesn't give you invisibility..doesn't make you more durable..etc

 

[Doggo]

Enma doesn't give you invisibility..doesn't make you more durable..etc

So?

What part makes it so that you can't compare the two?
A gives X
B gives Y
Congratulations, you are comparing A and B by bringing up a difference between them.
It's easy to headcanon whatever you want, when you don't have a good vocabulary knowledge and simply make up whatever meaning you want for the words you use.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

So?

What part makes it so that you can't compare the two?
A gives X
B gives Y
Congratulations, you are comparing A and B by bringing up a difference between them.
It's easy to headcanon whatever you want, when you don't have a good vocabulary knowledge and simply make up whatever meaning you want for the words you use.

Yeah maybe saying that you can cant compare them was wrong but still they're way different from each others

Anyone can use the RS

Not everyone can use Enma

That's why Woro>>Lanji

 

[Doggo]

Raid Suit is tied to the Vinsmokes.
Only Sanji, as far as we know, can use the Stealth Black raid suit.
Again, your point being?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If Ussop, Nami could tank 2,3 of Ulti's Headbutt and get up just fine, they could use the Raidsuit without a hinder. Stop making like Sanji is something special and ONLY he can use the raidsuit

Technically only he can use the raid suit as it’s locked to the genetics of a vinsmoke

 

[Doggo]

You assume Nami and Usopp can actually don the suit, like it didnt have something stopping them from using it, but doesnt disregard the aspect from enma that also stops anyone from using it.
See?
Purely headcanon stuff, adjusting reality to fit a narrative.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

It means that Sanji only gets free power ups and it's honestly sad

 

[Doggo]

It means that Sanji only gets free power ups and it's honestly sad

Humm....guess someone is getting a little salty because nobody is actually buying his headcanon stuff and is showing how trash his arguments are.
:cheers:

Be happy for your favorite character and stop looking like a douche trying to trash another character.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Humm....guess someone is getting a little salty because nobody is actually buying his headcanon stuff and is showing how trash his arguments are.
:cheers:

Be happy for your favorite character and stop looking like a douche trying to trash another character.

Why would i be salty ? It's the truth

No need to cry

 

[zzShinichi]

So to use the raid suit, you have to be Judge's son. That's it. No requirement. No harsh training. You only have to come fron Judge's balls

 

[Ice devil slayer]

So to use the raid suit, you have to be Judge's son. That's it. No requirement. No harsh training. You only have to come fron Judge's balls

Yup
He doesn't need to train etc, the suit gives him more durability..gives him more strength..even invisibility..

 

[Fn Lucci]

So to use the raid suit, you have to be Judge's son. That's it. No requirement. No harsh training. You only have to come fron Judge's balls

That or be smart enough to hack it. But then that's an instant power up. Easy to use and regardless of character strength. You'll see a spread with everyone wearing raid suits but even Oden's main man wanted none of Enma.

 

[Longleg Larry]

Both r powerups, but they're both lame in their own way
Since Sanji despises the turds that get it to him, he'll always see it as a crutch not a powerup

Zolo traded in the sick Shusui for the "Fool Lord's" plain-ass looking sword

 

[Arrow]

Whats the point of comparing the two power ups?
Enma makes Zoro stronger and RS increases Sanji speed and tactics. The end.

 

[trav]

@LuthonTheDragDown do we really need another of those threads?

 

[Lunaria]

Why is it so important to compare those power ups ?

 

[Hanzo hattori]

Sanji was way weaker than Zoro that's why Oda gave him a RS and Enma is a power up but Zoro didn't become that much stronger than he was at the beginning of Wano