Controversial Why G5 is the fiasco of One Piece

Do you like G5?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 47.5%
  • No

    Votes: 31 52.5%

  • Total voters
    59
#42
I hated G4 with a passion and I love G5.

It makes Luffy unique, and it suits him.

Yet no one commented on Snakeman doing something Rubber was incapable of until Kaido two chapters before Oda changed Luffy's fruit.
Not in-story as far as I remember, but I remember complaining about that right on Dressrosa and people making weird theories to "justify" it. Only now G4 makes some sense.
 
#43
I hated G4 with a passion and I love G5.

It makes Luffy unique, and it suits him.


Not in-story as far as I remember, but I remember complaining about that right on Dressrosa and people making weird theories to "justify" it. Only now G4 makes some sense.
Yeah this is why i question peoples ability to read because doffy explained it in chapter 785.
 
#44
Yeah this is why i question peoples ability to read because doffy explained it in chapter 785.
You made me search the chapter... only to find out Doflamingo said shit that made no sense and justified in no conceivable way that Luffy could change the course of his attacks the way he did with G4.

Something that the manga actually made a point of finally with Kaido before revealing the truth.

What you made me question is your critical thought ability.
 
#45
You are missing the point here.

Having gags in fight was never an issue. The overuse of gag it is. Specially when Oda made the gag his fighting style. But still he went serious to finish Kaido.

And like I said Luffy never needed G5 to have those gags. G5 is just pointless if that is the only purpose. Is all about the retcon and how his fighting style now is only gag because of it. It seems that Oda will make use of G4 when he wants to have more serious moments with Luffy while still pulling some power.
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Nope. Chosen one of what? He doesn't need a retcon to have him as chosen one. His DF was initially one thing then became another. It is a retcon and I just showed you all the definitions of it.
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Talking about strength you can't put anything related to CoO.

I understand your point. With advanced haki his gears are less necessary for power output since the difference is minimal.

But like I said there was NO difference between gears. Maybe his G4/G5 even performed worse than his base/G4. Which is ridiculous.

Again remember about how Drunken Kaido was suppose to be stronger than his sober version. He fought equally with base Luffy and G4 Luffy. There was no reason for Luffy to pull up his G4 against Kaido at that point. And then against G5... Was Kaido still drunk? Or he got sober and weaker because of that? So G5 pulled a worse fight against sober weaker Kaido than base Luffy against stronger drunk Kaido?
IIRC, Kaido only use his FS during G4 snakeman. I honestly think base-g3 Luffy was matching hybrid Kaido. So hybrid Kaido ~ Base-G3, G4 Luffy > Hybrid Kaido, FS Kaido >> G4 Luffy. Even without the CP0, I think Kaido would have won. FS Kaido >~ G5 Luffy.
 
#47
I don't want a Zolo fan who believed in ZKK to be talking about Gear 5 and fiasco in the same line. You Zolo fans can cry all you want but Gear 5 is the epitome of One Piece while LOLNO LOLO is a fodder as compared to Godfy. You believe in ZKK and have the audacity to talk about Gear 5? Lol, Zolofans are the fiasco of the one piece fandom. Complete failures.
You don't have the intelligence to read the story, you wasted so much time reading 1000 chapters and still didn't understand Luffy's character. Gear 5 isn't a fiasco, you couldnt read and understand the story. Lolno lolo fans talking about Luffy lol.
Go see how IGN Voted Luffy as top 1, your LOLO was so far behind.
 
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Herrera95

#52
IIRC, Kaido only use his FS during G4 snakeman. I honestly think base-g3 Luffy was matching hybrid Kaido. So hybrid Kaido ~ Base-G3, G4 Luffy > Hybrid Kaido, FS Kaido >> G4 Luffy. Even without the CP0, I think Kaido would have won. FS Kaido >~ G5 Luffy.
I would say he used against Red Hawk since he dodged because he knew it would hurt as Luffy stated.

Why G4 Luffy would be > Hybrid Kaido if he only used against Snakeman WEAK attacks. Is not like he was getting badly hurt by it he was joking about it. And he didn't used against Boundman.

And again why FS Kaido > G5 if he didn't used it against G5 and G5 beated Kaido with Bajrang Gun?

By the way I think Kaido > G5 but he just loses to Bajrang Gun.
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Rubber doesn't shrink like that and it Luffy's steaming body in G2 is similar to G5.
Yeah and Kaido is the only rubber specialist in the manga...
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You believe in ZKK and have the audacity to talk about Gear 5? Lol, Zolofans are the fiasco of the one piece fandom. Complete failures.
You talk like ZKK is dead...

You don't have the intelligence to read the story, you wasted so much time reading 1000 chapters and still didn't understand Luffy's character.
Yeah every Luffytard play the card "You don't understand Luffy" like he is some kind of deep character that a 8 year old kid can't understand.
 
#55
Spandam was a low lever guy and almost got an ancient weapon for the WG.Oda style is to make goofy stuff and creative abilities that are funny.The retcon(if it can even be called that) was alright.
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Rubber doesn't shrink like that and it Luffy's steaming body in G2 is similar to G5.
Spandam had CP9, the strongest secret agency (before CP0 retcon) to deal with a fledgling pirate crew with a captain at just 100 million.
The fruit that has been hunted for 800 years was put in the hands of a loser like Who’s Who that only has a 500 million bounty 11 years later to defend it from a pirate who had a 1 billion bounty at the time. It’s incomparable. The former (Spandam) almost succeeded, the latter (WsW) never had a chance.

The retcon is far from ok with the consequences it is for the story. The Gorosei became laughing stocks immediately, and the main character’s successes and agency/self-determination were called into question. Not to mention the dread of further retcons of that manner from here on. It’s a legitimate fiasco.
 
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Herrera95

#60
to defend it from a pirate who had a 1 billion bounty at the time
Film Red filler not cannon information. Fodder Shanks that lost an arm to a Sea King that was one shotted to Luffy when he just set sail could have never being 1 bi bounty at time.
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The retcon is far from ok with the consequences it is for the story. The Gorosei became laughing stocks immediately, and the main character’s successes and agency/self-determination were called into question. Not to mention the dread of further retcons of that manner from here on. It’s a legitimate fiasco.
I guess the problem is everybody already assuming Gorosei/WG already knew that for long. I think they just came into realize this when Onigashima battle was already happening.
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There are those who understand One Piece and those who do not
You are on the team who doesn't.
 
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