Powers & Abilities Why is FS so overratted

Is it overrated?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • No

    Votes: 12 44.4%
  • Idgaf

    Votes: 3 11.1%

  • Total voters
    27
#21
shouldnt he without seeing the attack know that the attack hits him when he uses FS?
Yes he could use FS with eyes closed. But apoo's attack doesn't have physical form (or maybe also haki form) plus it's fast and wide and luffy experienced it for the first time

Until apoo's attack get more explanation later (if the attack goes inside out or something), i'll stick to this explanation
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#22
its not. Katakuri was near invincible with it. Wano Luffy's CoO should be on a similar level.
Luffy isnt Katakuri. Luffy doesnt have logia-like body. Luffy is not a calm character. Luffy's Snakeman is incompatible with FS.
Forget about Luffy being invincible because of FS.
This is going to happen tho. Oda gave Luffy this ability for a reason.
No, it wont. It may pop up here and there but not even close to what Katakuri was doing.
As @MarineHQ62 pointed out, FS and Luffy and like water and oil, the biggest mismatch One Piece created since 1997.
 
#23
Yes he could use FS with eyes closed. But apoo's attack doesn't have physical form (or maybe also haki form) plus it's fast and wide and luffy experienced it for the first time

Until apoo's attack get more explanation later (if the attack goes inside out or something), i'll stick to this explanation
the attack having no physical form should be irrelevant to what i said
 
#24
FS works when you are calm. that means it works 50% of the time at best for Luffy.

it is overrated as Luffy struggled vs the first user who had it.
what people forget is that a FS user failed to take Luffy out for hours.
that means non-FS Luffy was already dealing with an experienced FS user for a very long time.

that alone is proof that FS is not the be-all-end-all ability that some make it out to be.
its just a slight step above basic CoO if you think about it.
 
#29
the attack having no physical form should be irrelevant to what i said
Well forget it then :smithnie:
I'll say we wait for the author explanation

For what i think,
luffy is surprised when apoo first attack hit him because he didn't see it AND he didn't detect it
Second attack he did try to figure out the attack with FS, same result he didn't detect it and DON he was blown
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#31
FS works when you are calm. that means it works 50% of the time at best for Luffy.

it is overrated as Luffy struggled vs the first user who had it.
what people forget is that a FS user failed to take Luffy out for hours.
that means non-FS Luffy was already dealing with an experienced FS user for a very long time.

that alone is proof that FS is not the be-all-end-all ability that some make it out to be.
its just a slight step above basic CoO if you think about it.
Luffy fans be like:
 
#32
maybe? considering how fast luffy can obtain that ability by only facing one opponent in one single fight?
despite that, for the last chapter, i think luffy was hit because he wasn't using FS as FS need some calmness and focus to activate
 
J

Jo_Ndule

#33
99% of high tiers can't even land a hit on Katakuri because of FS and his skills.
30% of top tiers can't beat Katakuri unless his Haki weakens after days.

FS isn't overrated, it is just that Luffy will not be a CoO master as Katakuri, Luffy relies on emotions too much,
50% of the battle Luffy will be using FS and the other half is when he will get super angry.

Giving Luffy FS was a huge mistake.

Luffy was stupid to not dodge or Block even tho he knew Apoo was gonna attack, maybe he was trying to understand his abilities.
 
#34
its not. Katakuri was near invincible with it. Wano Luffy's CoO should be on a similar level.

for apoo, you most likely cannot dodge his attacks. His attacks are transmitted through music itself. Unless you are kizaru, you most likely cannot dodge sound waves. As long as you are in his range, you will be hit. This is the same reason why Apoo was able to land a slash on Zoro, who has pretty decent CoO.

If apoo was able to land several hits on Luffy, and luffy is a known user of advanced CoO, maybe the question isn't "is FS overated" but rather "how hax is apoo's ability?"

Also, it seems as if luffy actually was able to use FS to predict Apoo's attack. Zoro said that Apoo was about to use another attack and Luffy stated he already knew. The issue wasn't that he couldn't predict, its that he couldn't dodge.
No Katakuri isn't near invisible with it. He was fighting someone who a rookie to this thing. Katakuri fighting King,Marco, Ben Beckham wouldn't look invincible for 10 hours.
 
#39
It’s overrated because its Area of Effect is extremely limited.

It either has to be focused on your opponent (Luffy vs Kata) or in a radius around you (Kata seeing Pudding falter during the wedding)

Whereas Mihawk’s feat of noticing Luffy is more impressive. And requires more skill to attack your opponent with, since with FS you know where he is going.
With what Mihawk did he didn’t know where Luffy was going but where he was and managed to hit him nonetheless even though Luffy was miles away in the middle of the war.

FS is only useful in few kind of situations. It’s not invincible nor the end all be all of observation.
 
C

critical mindset

#40
Kata’s FS is different. Luffy reads intent but can’t see how let’s say a rock would fall if you drop it. Kata can use FS to mark it’s exact trajectory. Luffy can’t do that. Kata has quite a remarkable and unprecedented ability, let’s not undersell him here and say everybody and their mother has FS.

He is way more adept than Luffy at using it and it’s all-encompassing, not just based on emotions. Kata’s FS legitimately sees the future, so this would by necessity have to mean he is able to make a correct reading of his environment, in this case the impact the soundwaves have on the room he is observing with his CoA; to legitimately see the future he would have to able to “sense” how the soundwaves (basically perturbations in space) impacts and interacts with the things he sees (it’s an active ability, he has to actively see the things he is making a future prediction about).

Kata is essentially displaying something akin to the breath of all things here, and casually at that. He senses the inanimate objects around him, their breath, as well as those of animate objects. None other have displayed this kind of FS. I don’t think the admirals have displayed FS, none of them dodged attacks with any noticeable ease. None of the admirals have shown the ability to see something was gonna fail to then change strategy or intervene in a situation the way Kuri did when he saw Pudding was gonna fall to her knees, he saw it and intervened. When they seemingly shapeshifts with FS, it’s possible they blocked it with their latent haki Akainu blocks it with his CoA (looks vexed by the attack, not like Kuri who blocks with total equanimity) and Aokiji blocked it with his CoA (looks surprised and so does his men). It’s latent CoA defence, not FS. Only Katakuri has real FS
 
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