Powers & Abilities Why King is stronger than Katakuri and far stronger than Queen ?

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Let King scratch RS Sanji first then we will talk about Katakuri later.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Let King scratch RS Sanji first then we will talk about Katakuri later.

Kata finished off Ichiji in a second, so there is some truth there, even if we assume Sanji´s durability is better than Ichiji´s without suit, you still need to get through the suit first, which King did not

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Kata finished off Ichiji in a second, so there is some truth there, even if we assume Sanji´s durability is better than Ichiji´s without suit, you still need to get through the suit first, which King did not

Yup. Basically my points there.

 

[Finalbeta]

Let King scratch RS Sanji first then we will talk about Katakuri later.

The opposite also works however bud. I don't recall King ever being damaged by Sanji throughout the story.

If that ever happens I will give him merit, but until then... King is superior by both hype and portrayal matters.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

The opposite also works however bud. I don't recall King ever being damaged by Sanji throughout the story.

If that ever happens I will give him merit, but until then... King is superior by both hype and portrayal matters.

King is definitely stronger than Sanji for sure. But not that much imo.

 

[Finalbeta]

King is definitely stronger than Sanji for sure. But not that much imo.

Well the main issue is that it's difficult to see someone like Doflamingo not damaging the RS or else the Vins would destroy Doffy. Quite farfetched scenario. King is even better than that overall.

 

[comrade]

Katakuri trashes King at this point.

 

[Bogard]

Oda keeps grouping him with Queen and even together, he can't get out of the choke hold of a Marco who is multi-tasking(both Queen and him while sending Zoro through the roof)

With Queen literally thinking Marco is invincible)

At this point, it's debatable if even together, they could beat Marco

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Lol this thread didnt aged well

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

@Jo_Ndule right now.

 

[Shiroyru]

Oda keeps grouping him with Queen and even together, he can't get out of the choke hold of a Marco who is multi-tasking(both Queen and him while sending Zoro through the roof)

With Queen literally thinking Marco is invincible)

At this point, it's debatable if even together, they could beat Marco

Queen was just confused by his regen ability.

King and Queen are in their weakest forms while Marco is in his strongest, so Marco doing this isn’t too crazy

 

[comrade]

King and Queen are in their weakest forms while Marco is in his strongest

Based on? Marco so far never used hybrid on screen. And no, using wings on a human body isn't what I consider hybrid. What CP9 did was hybrid.

 

[Momoheechulkabe9000]

Oda keeps grouping him with Queen and even together, he can't get out of the choke hold of a Marco who is multi-tasking(both Queen and him while sending Zoro through the roof)

With Queen literally thinking Marco is invincible)

At this point, it's debatable if even together, they could beat Marco

Pretty much everyone in the world was assuming that Kaido was weak when the Scabbards were seemingly kicking his butt

 

[Shiroyru]

Based on? Marco so far never used hybrid on screen. And no, using wings on a human body isn't what I consider hybrid. What CP9 did was hybrid.

Marco’s form where he has Phoenix wings and legs and a human torso and head is probably his hybrid form, or else this would mean that Marco never used hybrid at MF, which is stupid. Marco is unique amongst Zoans since his full Zoan form is actually better than his hybrid form. After all, having a human head and torso provides no benefit to him over being in full Phoenix mode. Another Zoan that is actually stronger in their full Zoan than in hybrid is Sengoku since being a full Buddha (fully enlightened) is obviously better than being only a half Buddha, so Marco being strongest in full Zoan isn’t unprecedented

 

[Shuyaku]

This isn’t aging well. And given King is seemingly not facing Zoro, i don’t have hopes for him anymore. Weaker than Katakuri most likely.

 

[Finalbeta]

This isn’t aging well. And given King is seemingly not facing Zoro, i don’t have hopes for him anymore. Weaker than Katakuri most likely.

Good thing I never hyped this match up and always stood by the stance their fight would have been futile even, cause Zoro was destined to a much more elevated opponent overall.

 

[Venom]

Pretty much everyone in the world was assuming that Kaido was weak when the Scabbards were seemingly kicking his butt

Can't agree more

 

[JerAx]

beckman >= kat = marco >>>> ling

 

[Constantine]

beckman >= kat = marco >>>> ling

Beckman = Marco > Kata > King
:cheers:

 

[Rivaille]

Good thing I never hyped this match up and always stood by the stance their fight would have been futile even, cause Zoro was destined to a much more elevated opponent overall.

Props up to you about that Final:cheers:
From day one you always have defend that Zoro will face Kaido and no one else, and you never changed your stance. That amazing

OT: even tho I was wrong and that Zoro will most likely not face King, I still think that King downplay is ridiculous. But I recognize that for now Oda did not give him an opportunity to shine (except for the kick against BM’s ship)