I can see him having equal bounty to Luffy
Regarding Luffy being the 5th yonko
We gotta remember that after payback war, Marco has disappeared and he's been deemed as "inactive"
Specially since he's called "ex-WB pirate"
Meaning he's got no crew just like how we deem Mihawk stronger than Luffy but not a yonko as an example since he has no crew and he's under WG (formerly at least) and now he's not under anyone..
It's the same as we look ar Rayleigh who is an inactive pirate, most definitely can still whoop Luffy's ass, but he's not considered 5th yonko
So, generally, I believe it's unfair to bribg the 5th yonko when Marco is ALONE and inactive for some time, and WB pirates were disbanded...
Luffy at CURRENT moment is exactly at Marco's position 2 years ago when Gorosei said:
BB is invading New World, the only ones who can put a stop to his invasion are the Yonko, and the Wb remnants under Marco
Where Marco was the force that came right under Yonko to pose a threat to a rising Yonko like BB...
Similar position in that both Marco and Luffy were deemed the 5th in position AFTER the yonko
so, it would make sense for both to have same amount of bounty to me, specially since I feel Oda loves wanking WB pirates and Roger pirates more than other Yonko crew... so I wouldn't be surprised to see First Division Marco have that big bounty...
Besides, Luffy beat Katakuri, who was 1 billion, then Luffy had 1.5
What's to say that BB beat Marco worth 1.5, and he got to 2.2 billion
Regarding Luffy being the 5th yonko
We gotta remember that after payback war, Marco has disappeared and he's been deemed as "inactive"
Specially since he's called "ex-WB pirate"
Meaning he's got no crew just like how we deem Mihawk stronger than Luffy but not a yonko as an example since he has no crew and he's under WG (formerly at least) and now he's not under anyone..
It's the same as we look ar Rayleigh who is an inactive pirate, most definitely can still whoop Luffy's ass, but he's not considered 5th yonko
So, generally, I believe it's unfair to bribg the 5th yonko when Marco is ALONE and inactive for some time, and WB pirates were disbanded...
Luffy at CURRENT moment is exactly at Marco's position 2 years ago when Gorosei said:
BB is invading New World, the only ones who can put a stop to his invasion are the Yonko, and the Wb remnants under Marco
Where Marco was the force that came right under Yonko to pose a threat to a rising Yonko like BB...
Similar position in that both Marco and Luffy were deemed the 5th in position AFTER the yonko
so, it would make sense for both to have same amount of bounty to me, specially since I feel Oda loves wanking WB pirates and Roger pirates more than other Yonko crew... so I wouldn't be surprised to see First Division Marco have that big bounty...
Besides, Luffy beat Katakuri, who was 1 billion, then Luffy had 1.5
What's to say that BB beat Marco worth 1.5, and he got to 2.2 billion
Nope, he was granted emperor status for two reasons
1) Black beard pirates totally crushed Marco and remnants not just Marco. Crushed is the key word here. Blackbeard was an emperor candidate after war.
2) Blackbeard possessed two powerful DF's and even occupied White beard territories.
Luffy's case is different
whereas Morgans just stated that Luffy escaped emperor territory safely and "his strength allowed to defeat two commanders". Luffy was granted victory because he successfully escaped the on slaught of bigmom pirates. That is why he was termed as the fifth emperor.
The bottom line is Luffy got fifth emperor status just because he defeated two commanders, has a grand fleet, brother of Sabo and escaped bigmom territory. He could have named as an emperor if he had occupied Bigmom territory or his crew and allies defeat/crush BigMom pirates.
1) Black beard pirates totally crushed Marco and remnants not just Marco. Crushed is the key word here. Blackbeard was an emperor candidate after war.
2) Blackbeard possessed two powerful DF's and even occupied White beard territories.
Luffy's case is different
whereas Morgans just stated that Luffy escaped emperor territory safely and "his strength allowed to defeat two commanders". Luffy was granted victory because he successfully escaped the on slaught of bigmom pirates. That is why he was termed as the fifth emperor.
The bottom line is Luffy got fifth emperor status just because he defeated two commanders, has a grand fleet, brother of Sabo and escaped bigmom territory. He could have named as an emperor if he had occupied Bigmom territory or his crew and allies defeat/crush BigMom pirates.
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Marco wasn't hyped to stop bb
Marco and Rest*.. Group effort. It was even a "perhaps" which turns out false.
If Marco has 1.5 + then Teach should he having 3 B right now...
It doesn't matter if Teach had 0
Luffy had 0 but gained higher bounty than the person he beats solo.
That's how it always works.
Bruh Teach didn't beat Marco extreme diff, low diff
Marco isn't worth more than killing WB beating Ace, Magellan, recruiting level 6 prisoners.
Also, Teach became Yonko after trashing WB pirates badly and gaining territories... Not after beating Marco alone.
Like I said... If Beating Marco is worth 1.5, then All the other stuff he did before beating Marco is worth 1 B, teach should be having 2.5 B
Marco wasnt deemed 5th position, they were still a Yonko crew, it was Teach who was 5th position and took the 4th spot from Marco and Co
That's what happened lol
Who is gonna beat AdCoa and fs Luffy beside Yonko and Admirals, Dragon?
Please Kata was undefeated in NW, COULD LOW DIFF BOUNDMAN because of FS
Luffy has 2 top tier haki + top tier AP and speef
Who exactly ly beats Luffy, only a blind dude will think a YC can beat Luffy.
Morgans did his exagérations but, Luffy still deserved 1B+ for beating Kata and cracker already
Marco and Rest*.. Group effort. It was even a "perhaps" which turns out false.
If Marco has 1.5 + then Teach should he having 3 B right now...
It doesn't matter if Teach had 0
Luffy had 0 but gained higher bounty than the person he beats solo.
That's how it always works.
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Bruh Teach didn't beat Marco extreme diff, low diff
Marco isn't worth more than killing WB beating Ace, Magellan, recruiting level 6 prisoners.
Also, Teach became Yonko after trashing WB pirates badly and gaining territories... Not after beating Marco alone.
Like I said... If Beating Marco is worth 1.5, then All the other stuff he did before beating Marco is worth 1 B, teach should be having 2.5 B
Marco wasnt deemed 5th position, they were still a Yonko crew, it was Teach who was 5th position and took the 4th spot from Marco and Co
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By beating Katakuri, Luffy surpassed all characters sans the top-tiers which makes Katakuri the strongest character outside the top-tiers and Luffy. Is that what you're trying to propagate?
Who is gonna beat AdCoa and fs Luffy beside Yonko and Admirals, Dragon?
Please Kata was undefeated in NW, COULD LOW DIFF BOUNDMAN because of FS
Luffy has 2 top tier haki + top tier AP and speef
Who exactly ly beats Luffy, only a blind dude will think a YC can beat Luffy.
Morgans did his exagérations but, Luffy still deserved 1B+ for beating Kata and cracker already
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@Jo_Ndule
you did not respond to what @Gol D. Roger asked.
apparently a guy on Apoos level would suffice.
any of the YC is still a threat to Luffy. yes, even a Smoothie or Snack.
Luffy just recently got outsmarted by the likes of Gazelleman. go figure.
you did not respond to what @Gol D. Roger asked.
apparently a guy on Apoos level would suffice.
any of the YC is still a threat to Luffy. yes, even a Smoothie or Snack.
Luffy just recently got outsmarted by the likes of Gazelleman. go figure.
The Marco vs Blackbeard conflict was described as one of the 2 major conflicts that happened during the timeskip in the same breath with the Akainu vs Aokiji conflict
> One of the 2 major changes world wide spread in the world during the timeskip
One thing to note is that the Grudge War between Marco's group and Blackbeard's group that led to Blackbeard becoming a yonko was mentioned to be one of the 2 major changes that shook the world during the timeskip, with the other one being the Akainu vs Kuzan battle, leading to Akainu becoming fleet admiral
The fact that this battle was so significant it was world wide considered as one of the 2major changes in the world speaks volumes in terms of portrayal. As a comparison, Luffy who Morgan wanked in his newspapers from multiple feats including defeating 2 yonko commanders with another high high tier(Katakuri) not properly mentioned in the newspaper, discovery of the Strawhat Grandfleet and literally calling him the 5th emperor
But despite this, Luffy isn't widely recognized as 5th emperor unlike Teach
With an actual confrontation with a yonko ending this way
Marco was also already viewed long before as the trumpcard of the alliance against Kaido
> Trumpcard of the alliance against Kaido
This point is less important, but i'd like to note then that even in the current arc, Kinemon and co went from the past to the future with the optic of having Marco as their trumpcard in the Kaido battle, with Nekomamushi knowing this, and note that at that moment they had no idea of the Luffy/Law alliance
I'd not be surprised if Marco's bounty exceeded Luffy's 1.5 Billions, which would be incredible considering unlike the Beast Pirates, he is very peaceful
> One of the 2 major changes world wide spread in the world during the timeskip
One thing to note is that the Grudge War between Marco's group and Blackbeard's group that led to Blackbeard becoming a yonko was mentioned to be one of the 2 major changes that shook the world during the timeskip, with the other one being the Akainu vs Kuzan battle, leading to Akainu becoming fleet admiral
The fact that this battle was so significant it was world wide considered as one of the 2major changes in the world speaks volumes in terms of portrayal. As a comparison, Luffy who Morgan wanked in his newspapers from multiple feats including defeating 2 yonko commanders with another high high tier(Katakuri) not properly mentioned in the newspaper, discovery of the Strawhat Grandfleet and literally calling him the 5th emperor
But despite this, Luffy isn't widely recognized as 5th emperor unlike Teach
With an actual confrontation with a yonko ending this way
Marco was also already viewed long before as the trumpcard of the alliance against Kaido
> Trumpcard of the alliance against Kaido
This point is less important, but i'd like to note then that even in the current arc, Kinemon and co went from the past to the future with the optic of having Marco as their trumpcard in the Kaido battle, with Nekomamushi knowing this, and note that at that moment they had no idea of the Luffy/Law alliance
I'd not be surprised if Marco's bounty exceeded Luffy's 1.5 Billions, which would be incredible considering unlike the Beast Pirates, he is very peaceful
Your basis for Marco getting Low-diffed actually is nothing but a "headcanon" with all respect... I understand where you're coming from by saying that it was stated "it was an overhwhelming defeat"... but that is NO INDICATION of how extreme or difficult it was
I can give you the most simple example of that in One Piece itself..... The Strawhat Pirates vs CP9
It was an "extreme extreme extreme most extreme DIFF FIGHT" we have ever seen.... after they dipped.... we have a scene for Aokiji... and what exactly did he say???
He says "it was a complete and utter defeat".... which rings in the same tone as when you say "overwhelming defeat"... you can use so many other translation words for it like "a huge defeat" and so on and on and on...
Point is... you guys think Blackbeard sneezed at Marco and it was OVER... which is NOTHING BUT HEADCANON
If that was the case, they wouldn't call it a "wide scale war" or "it was a huge affair" if that was that fucking easy
Blackbeard won, complete win, NO MAJOR CASUALTIES, that's what an "overwhelming defeat means". it doesn't necessarily means that Marco didn't give him a huge fight...
I hope my point of view is clear for you
Now if you disagree with the points I gave you, it's up to you, but don't go around spreading things and quoting me about it as if your info is a fact when it's headcanon LOL
I can give you the most simple example of that in One Piece itself..... The Strawhat Pirates vs CP9
It was an "extreme extreme extreme most extreme DIFF FIGHT" we have ever seen.... after they dipped.... we have a scene for Aokiji... and what exactly did he say???
He says "it was a complete and utter defeat".... which rings in the same tone as when you say "overwhelming defeat"... you can use so many other translation words for it like "a huge defeat" and so on and on and on...
Point is... you guys think Blackbeard sneezed at Marco and it was OVER... which is NOTHING BUT HEADCANON
If that was the case, they wouldn't call it a "wide scale war" or "it was a huge affair" if that was that fucking easy
Blackbeard won, complete win, NO MAJOR CASUALTIES, that's what an "overwhelming defeat means". it doesn't necessarily means that Marco didn't give him a huge fight...
I hope my point of view is clear for you
Now if you disagree with the points I gave you, it's up to you, but don't go around spreading things and quoting me about it as if your info is a fact when it's headcanon LOL
No, but combat ability is one of the principal determinants of bounty. If a character has a bounty higher than you expected, then ceteris paribus, they have a combat ability higher than you expected. Thus, if you learn that you underestimated a character's bounty you should expect to have underestimated their combat ability.
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