Future Events Why Marines will show up to Wano
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marine won't show up in Wano. they are busy dealing with shichibukai, reverie aftermath and blackbeard's movement. akainu is not that stupid.after being attacked by revos they are clearly in full alert in their own turf.
making pirates fight each other without participate in it will be smartest move ever. after all they are worry about the ally between big mom and kaido. but not worry about luffy. for them it's best if luffy law and all those water supernova and pirates get killed by bm and kaido. it will cause the huge benefits for wg and marines.
it's so stupid to arrest kaido and bm. after all kaido already sink 9 of their gigantic prison ships. now add bm. it will be 18.
making pirates fight each other without participate in it will be smartest move ever. after all they are worry about the ally between big mom and kaido. but not worry about luffy. for them it's best if luffy law and all those water supernova and pirates get killed by bm and kaido. it will cause the huge benefits for wg and marines.
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it's so stupid to arrest kaido and bm. after all kaido already sink 9 of their gigantic prison ships. now add bm. it will be 18.
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Garp was called as Marine hero for that, and he was Roger's rival in all terms that time.
Now if we look on Marinford war, you are a bit wrong , the only one admiral who go all out was Akainu, while Aokiji and Kizaru was keeping their power, for another Yonko that could showed up. I mean Kaido that time wanted to join party and if Shanks didn't stop him he would make things worse for Marines, and if Kaido could show up, I believe that BigMom would also join if Kaido would be there...somehow they are connected(I've got feeling that Kaido became immortal for a reason). But red snitch stop those events, and Marines was saved.
Now if we look on Marinford war, you are a bit wrong , the only one admiral who go all out was Akainu, while Aokiji and Kizaru was keeping their power, for another Yonko that could showed up. I mean Kaido that time wanted to join party and if Shanks didn't stop him he would make things worse for Marines, and if Kaido could show up, I believe that BigMom would also join if Kaido would be there...somehow they are connected(I've got feeling that Kaido became immortal for a reason). But red snitch stop those events, and Marines was saved.
I think they'll come because the straw hats and the pirates there need bounty increases, and the marines need to make sure the news is actually true that the SHs and allies defeated the Kaido pirates. It could also mean that Carrot might also get a bounty finally, and the scabbards(whoever is left).
the Whole point of showing the Marines talking about Rocks, and them seeing Kaido and BM alliance as a Rocks pirates comeback is a set up to them showing up
they started taking about Rocks before BM even reached Wano, they are clearly too involved to not show up, the Yonko origins is mostly from Rocks pirates, the story of the most iconic Marine is him fighting them, and he's supposed to be the Roger of the Marines, the Yonko are Marines main enemy, there's no way Oda will make them not involved in their Saga
the last scene with them was sengoku still trying to convince Akainu to make a move and telling there's something off going on in Wano, its not like Oda will cut away from that to only find out Akainu didn't change his mind
they started taking about Rocks before BM even reached Wano, they are clearly too involved to not show up, the Yonko origins is mostly from Rocks pirates, the story of the most iconic Marine is him fighting them, and he's supposed to be the Roger of the Marines, the Yonko are Marines main enemy, there's no way Oda will make them not involved in their Saga
the last scene with them was sengoku still trying to convince Akainu to make a move and telling there's something off going on in Wano, its not like Oda will cut away from that to only find out Akainu didn't change his mind
Kaido and Big Mom aren't the second coming of Rocks. Blackbeard is.
The Rocks storyline is setup for EoS, not now. Kaido and Big Mom were only peripheral figures to it in the past- an apprentice on the crew and the, at best, third strongest member.
The main story of Rocks is D related, Void Century related. Why three separate D's, Rocks, Roger and Garp, all came together and fought at an island named after God, with the Celestial Dragon's involved. Kaido and Big Mom's alliance is just a warning shot, before the real deal, Blackbeard, comes along. He's the actual Rocks successor. A D, the only man with two DF's, a host of deadly backstabbing pirates under his command, the enmity of Im alongside Luffy, a flagship named after Rocks, in Rocks' old island, and in general just a vastly more important character than BM and Kaido are. It's with him we get the payoff for the Rocks story- Kaido and BM are just the beginning of it.
Sengoku actually agreed with Sakazuki that they shouldn't go to Wano.
The Rocks storyline is setup for EoS, not now. Kaido and Big Mom were only peripheral figures to it in the past- an apprentice on the crew and the, at best, third strongest member.
The main story of Rocks is D related, Void Century related. Why three separate D's, Rocks, Roger and Garp, all came together and fought at an island named after God, with the Celestial Dragon's involved. Kaido and Big Mom's alliance is just a warning shot, before the real deal, Blackbeard, comes along. He's the actual Rocks successor. A D, the only man with two DF's, a host of deadly backstabbing pirates under his command, the enmity of Im alongside Luffy, a flagship named after Rocks, in Rocks' old island, and in general just a vastly more important character than BM and Kaido are. It's with him we get the payoff for the Rocks story- Kaido and BM are just the beginning of it.
Sengoku actually agreed with Sakazuki that they shouldn't go to Wano.
the Marines see their alliance that way, and Oda seem to be pushing the idea, to the point where just BM calling Kaido made the Marines recall the Rocks Pirates and were afraid of them coming back
I don't see how it is EoS material, if BM and Kaido were there, and know everything there's to know about the incident why it can't be their story? or rather Kaido story?
I also don't think it matter how strong they were back then, what matter is how much God Valley incident affected them and how much its relate to their future goal(especially Kaido), if anything Kaido being young back then suggest the incident probably heavily infeluenced his character and goals
I get that Rocks story could be related to BB, but that doesn't mean Kaido and BM's aren't , they all could be in different ways
I see Rocks story as the history of all major pirates and are equally involved in it, otherwise there's no reason to shoehorn characters like WB in it
to the most important point, I completely disagree that BB is way more important than Kaido and BM, and I don't think Kaido and BM won't be involved in any major story element
because what you're basically suggesting is Kaido and BM are filler villain with no relevancy to the story, because the thing is unlike past villain who luffy defeated this it for Kaido he's gonna be Killed, while past villain will comeback and will still play a role and add something to the story, Kaido won't have the chance, so his major role and the reason he's part of the story need to be shown in this saga, I don't believe oda will make the mistake of portraying Kaido and BM as just strong irrelevant filler villains
the build up to Yonko/Kaido saga started from thriller park up until know, arcs like Thriller Park, Shaboady, partly FI, PH, DR..ect were all build up to this saga, all of it just to make Kaido story about defeating a strong pirate? while anything related to EoS will be about BB? I highly dought that's what Oda is planning
Oda said OP was a story about Luffy fighting Yonko, and given that most of the story was build up to their saga I don't think Oda will make two of them that irrelevant
I recall Sengoku saying he understand Akainu decision? maybe am misremembering, but his last quote seems to suggest he think there's something weird about Wano and telling Akainu maybe he should interfere
I don't see how it is EoS material, if BM and Kaido were there, and know everything there's to know about the incident why it can't be their story? or rather Kaido story?
I also don't think it matter how strong they were back then, what matter is how much God Valley incident affected them and how much its relate to their future goal(especially Kaido), if anything Kaido being young back then suggest the incident probably heavily infeluenced his character and goals
I get that Rocks story could be related to BB, but that doesn't mean Kaido and BM's aren't , they all could be in different ways
I see Rocks story as the history of all major pirates and are equally involved in it, otherwise there's no reason to shoehorn characters like WB in it
to the most important point, I completely disagree that BB is way more important than Kaido and BM, and I don't think Kaido and BM won't be involved in any major story element
because what you're basically suggesting is Kaido and BM are filler villain with no relevancy to the story, because the thing is unlike past villain who luffy defeated this it for Kaido he's gonna be Killed, while past villain will comeback and will still play a role and add something to the story, Kaido won't have the chance, so his major role and the reason he's part of the story need to be shown in this saga, I don't believe oda will make the mistake of portraying Kaido and BM as just strong irrelevant filler villains
the build up to Yonko/Kaido saga started from thriller park up until know, arcs like Thriller Park, Shaboady, partly FI, PH, DR..ect were all build up to this saga, all of it just to make Kaido story about defeating a strong pirate? while anything related to EoS will be about BB? I highly dought that's what Oda is planning
Oda said OP was a story about Luffy fighting Yonko, and given that most of the story was build up to their saga I don't think Oda will make two of them that irrelevant
I recall Sengoku saying he understand Akainu decision? maybe am misremembering, but his last quote seems to suggest he think there's something weird about Wano and telling Akainu maybe he should interfere
