Questions & Mysteries Why none use CoC?

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#22
Why didn't Oden use coc to knock out Ashura doji's men when he went to Kuri? Why didn't he use it on Kaido's army when they fought?

this is so ridiculous and stupid
I guess he just decided to make numbers matter so he can spend 20 chapter for fodder recruitment and fights and sell more copies
The only explanation could be that Oda doesn't want to yet unravel the true potential of CoC and is using plot convenience to preserve it making it like Oden wasn't remotely a powerful CoC user despite his general prowess.
 
#23
Oda has systematically retconned all forms of haki.
Luffy trains all three forms to decent standard on the island, is dodging lasers with precog, knocking out 50000 fishman with no negative effects his side, and there is no distinction between the basic barrier haki that fodder sandersonia used and colourless CoA used to touch logias.
Suddenly CoO doesn't do that anymore and you need future sight to actually have mantra like dodging- and only on fodders if you are a protagonist.
Suddenly there are multiple levels to CoA that are needed, and can be learned in a few weeks rather than 6 months Luffy was left to "teach himself".
Suddenly CoC is only used in punch clashes, and only really when the other party initiates it, heaven forbid Luffy CoC clash on some non CoC using loser.
 
#26
The only explanation could be that Oda doesn't want to yet unravel the true potential of CoC and is using plot convenience to preserve it making it like Oden wasn't remotely a powerful CoC user despite his general prowess.
he probably wasnt particularly specialized in it since he didnt really want to be shogun and kept running away. oden had the qualities of a king but he was a nomad warrior at heart and only decided to become shogun to open wano's borders and go on more adventures.
 
#27
Oda has systematically retconned all forms of haki.
Luffy trains all three forms to decent standard on the island, is dodging lasers with precog, knocking out 50000 fishman with no negative effects his side, and there is no distinction between the basic barrier haki that fodder sandersonia used and colourless CoA used to touch logias.
Suddenly CoO doesn't do that anymore and you need future sight to actually have mantra like dodging- and only on fodders if you are a protagonist.
Suddenly there are multiple levels to CoA that are needed, and can be learned in a few weeks rather than 6 months Luffy was left to "teach himself".
Suddenly CoC is only used in punch clashes, and only really when the other party initiates it, heaven forbid Luffy CoC clash on some non CoC using loser.
-CoO only works like premonition against non users, 2 CoO users fighting each other are back to square 1
-Levels of CoA were already a thing, Luffy could blow away Sandersonia but not Sentomaru, Luffy didn't learn a new kind of haki but a different way to use the CoA he already had.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#28
he probably wasnt particularly specialized in it since he didnt really want to be shogun and kept running away. oden had the qualities of a king but he was a nomad warrior at heart and only decided to become shogun to open wano's borders and go on more adventures.
Yes this could be, still a shame that his CoC wasn't portrayed nearly as potent as one could have intuitively expected. Despite not beastly, which could have been intuitively a stretch without evidence. Unless Oda doesn't store big plans for CoC in the future, very doubtful.
 
J

Jo_Ndule

#29
Why didn't Oden use coc to knock out Ashura doji's men when he went to Kuri? Why didn't he use it on Kaido's army when they fought?

this is so ridiculous and stupid
I guess he just decided to make numbers matter so he can spend 20 chapter for fodder recruitment and fights and sell more copies
Oda's logic

Waste time on fodders fighting SNs to sell more copies, drag the arc
 
#30
Ehhh I'd say most of Kaido's forces arent gonna be Knocked out with CoC.

The point of Kaido's super enhanced smile army is that even his fodder is of a much higher quality than most crews or organization fodder.

They may still be one shot able but SH's elite standards like Jinbei, Zoro, Luffy, Sanji etc but a simple flex of CoC Haki shouldnt render them unconscious.

Like for example most of the duded aren't much different than Killer ya know? Forced to eat a smile fruit and bent the knee to Kaido in order to save himself and his crew. Not comparing the will powers or plot involved just the circumstances.

Not only that but most if not all of these gifters and headliners whole heatedly believe Kaido is the strongest alive and are now willing to fight for him. They arent just weak willed scrubs that lost and are doing the bidding. Their will has been broken and a new will to make the man who beat them PK has arisen within them.

Also Plot lmao
 
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