Powers & Abilities Why people overrate the shit out of Luffy's powerups
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Your comment is exactly what I'm talking. He didn't jump from "YC1" to Yonko level because of 1 powerup. That's fucking dumb. Oda gave him that bounty for a reason, and put Marco/King's bounty below him.
He surpassed all the YCs as 5th Emperor. Advanced CoA pushed him to mid Top Tier, and adCoC to Yonko level.
The issue here is that Luffy's base physical strength was always that strong. He just couldn't clash with a spiked weapon directly or have the "key" to penetrate Kaido's skin.
There's no "advanced CoC" or "CoA" or whatever there ^.
Scabbards are the perfect example. Like Tyquan saying Kinemon > Gear 4 Luffy because he made Kaido bleed.
The Scabbard had the "key" to hurt Kaido, just like Law. But none of them were stronger than Luffy overall.
He surpassed all the YCs as 5th Emperor. Advanced CoA pushed him to mid Top Tier, and adCoC to Yonko level.
The issue here is that Luffy's base physical strength was always that strong. He just couldn't clash with a spiked weapon directly or have the "key" to penetrate Kaido's skin.
There's no "advanced CoC" or "CoA" or whatever there ^.
Scabbards are the perfect example. Like Tyquan saying Kinemon > Gear 4 Luffy because he made Kaido bleed.
The Scabbard had the "key" to hurt Kaido, just like Law. But none of them were stronger than Luffy overall.
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Your comment is exactly what I'm talking. He didn't jump from "YC1" to Yonko level because of 1 powerup. That's fucking dumb. Oda gave him that bounty for a reason, and put Marco/King's bounty below him.
He surpassed all the YCs as 5th Emperor. Advanced CoA pushed him to mid Top Tier, and adCoC to Yonko level.
The issue here is that Luffy's base physical strength was always that strong. He just couldn't clash with a spiked weapon directly or have the "key" to penetrate Kaido's skin.
There's no "advanced CoC" or "CoA" or whatever there ^.
Scabbards are the perfect example. Like Tyquan saying Kinemon > Gear 4 Luffy because he made Kaido bleed.
The Scabbard had the "key" to hurt Kaido, just like Law. But none of them were stronger than Luffy overall.
He surpassed all the YCs as 5th Emperor. Advanced CoA pushed him to mid Top Tier, and adCoC to Yonko level.
The issue here is that Luffy's base physical strength was always that strong. He just couldn't clash with a spiked weapon directly or have the "key" to penetrate Kaido's skin.
There's no "advanced CoC" or "CoA" or whatever there ^.
Scabbards are the perfect example. Like Tyquan saying Kinemon > Gear 4 Luffy because he made Kaido bleed.
The Scabbard had the "key" to hurt Kaido, just like Law. But none of them were stronger than Luffy overall.
Again, I'm talking about the large gap in that chapter. Nothing to do with Udon.
And we saw him against P1 before. His physical strength has almost 0 difference. Just Haki. Even Sanji could do that shit.
And we saw him against P1 before. His physical strength has almost 0 difference. Just Haki. Even Sanji could do that shit.
The last 2 major villain arcs Luffy has fought (Katakuri and Kaido), he needed to unlock the battle with a "key". For Katakuri the "key" was Future Sight.
Luffy in base seemed useless against Katakuri.
But as soon as he unlocked FS he became somewhat competitive.
Same deal with Kaido. It seemed he wasn't doing much
But with advanced CoC the "key", he became competitive in base
But these differences are exaggerated by the fact because Luffy without the "key" seems useless. But that's an opponent-specific thing.
You take someone like Law. He didn't get any Future Sight, advanced CoA, or advanced CoC. But with the way his powers work, he could have harmed Kaido or Big Mom much better than Luffy.
Kaido even states that Law's powers throw him off. But was Law > pre-CoC Luffy? NO. But Law already had a "key". Luffy was always physically strong, but unlike Law he wasn't very versatile. So some opponents make him look useless based on their own powers.
Luffy gaining Future Sight made him look like he jumped 10x in power. Same thing for him gaining aCoC for Kaido. But these just look this way because he seemed useless before due to him lacking that "key", that even a weaker person, like Law might have. He wouldn't look that useless, against say an Admiral, who didn't have insane skin.
Luffy in base seemed useless against Katakuri.
But as soon as he unlocked FS he became somewhat competitive.
Same deal with Kaido. It seemed he wasn't doing much
But with advanced CoC the "key", he became competitive in base
But these differences are exaggerated by the fact because Luffy without the "key" seems useless. But that's an opponent-specific thing.
You take someone like Law. He didn't get any Future Sight, advanced CoA, or advanced CoC. But with the way his powers work, he could have harmed Kaido or Big Mom much better than Luffy.
Kaido even states that Law's powers throw him off. But was Law > pre-CoC Luffy? NO. But Law already had a "key". Luffy was always physically strong, but unlike Law he wasn't very versatile. So some opponents make him look useless based on their own powers.
Luffy gaining Future Sight made him look like he jumped 10x in power. Same thing for him gaining aCoC for Kaido. But these just look this way because he seemed useless before due to him lacking that "key", that even a weaker person, like Law might have. He wouldn't look that useless, against say an Admiral, who didn't have insane skin.
Oda made Luffy grow by giving him shitty matchups and we know how messed up his matchups in post time skips were.
one could argue that instead of cracker he fought jack.. he would have struggled less or even Queen or King..
See when it comes to battle certain abilities makes a whole difference & it is true when luffy finally use fs he dud jump up a few levels but now his attacks can make contact because without it he couldn't land a hit on kata , certain abilities plays a roll in your fight it can help turn the tides faster depending on Thea opponent & when it comes to law like Kaito said his abilities are just tricky but against someone like kata it's trash because kata has the right counter for it
That's the thing. Each of these powerups is just 1 powerup. 1 level. But because Luffy was essentially useless before them, it makes it seems like he jumped way higher in power by comparison.
But you take people like Law, Killer, Scabbards, who could make Kaido hurl blood/scar him, and you see that they weren't stronger than Luffy.
But you take people like Law, Killer, Scabbards, who could make Kaido hurl blood/scar him, and you see that they weren't stronger than Luffy.
It's not that they are stronger its just the use different abilities different tools , luffy is a brawler how can I say luffy did lest damage to Kaito because he punch & zoro cut or he punch & law uses his ability to deal damage its just different fir each but luffy still out class them in most everything else making hi. Superior