Going by what the author of the series himself seems to focus on. Swordsmanship in this manga has been highlighted to be a path.
Zoro has strived to be the best swordsman right? Mihawk is the best at using swords and best swordsman. Roger and Shanks are in a straight forward sense swordsman by wielding a sword. But are they defined by it like Zoro and Mihawk and other characters? The philosophy? Not expressed by the characters thus far with the same focus.
Easiest example in real time. Somebody who considers themselves an artist right? You can paint and not identify as simply a painter. The specialization of a particular field matters, it is declared.
Zoro has strived to be the best swordsman right? Mihawk is the best at using swords and best swordsman. Roger and Shanks are in a straight forward sense swordsman by wielding a sword. But are they defined by it like Zoro and Mihawk and other characters? The philosophy? Not expressed by the characters thus far with the same focus.
Easiest example in real time. Somebody who considers themselves an artist right? You can paint and not identify as simply a painter. The specialization of a particular field matters, it is declared.
Nope. Swordsmanship is fighting style, if you fight with swords you a swordsman.
If you do arts you an artist.
Philosophy and spiritual/religious stuff in One Piece are related to the spiritual power of Haki and the possible use of it in swordsmanship (and other things) to get magical effects
Roger and Shanks are swordsman
If you do arts you an artist.
Philosophy and spiritual/religious stuff in One Piece are related to the spiritual power of Haki and the possible use of it in swordsmanship (and other things) to get magical effects
Roger and Shanks are swordsman
There is no "path" what path does Shiryu follow ?
What path does Cabaji follow ?
What path does Hachi follow ?
These arguments are asinine the swordsman argument has been put to bed.
Roger
Shanks
Rayleigh
Law
All swordsman.
What path does Cabaji follow ?
What path does Hachi follow ?
These arguments are asinine the swordsman argument has been put to bed.
Roger
Shanks
Rayleigh
Law
All swordsman.
How is that making up a rule when it’s displayed in the manga? Sounds to me like you are making just easy clear categories for how the characters should be placed. A sword is a weapon. You can use the weapon and not identify with being a specialist in that weapon by ethos.
Zoro’s fight with King proves that
Zoro’s fight with King proves that
Where's that stated in the manga ?
On the contrary you're supposed to understand the sword in order for you to use it correctly, if we have Zoro a swordsman through and through struggling with a sword that's of the O Wazamono grade how do you expect someone who's not of that stature of a swordsman to manage a Saijo O Wazamono - doesn't make much sense.
You also didn't address the Usopp Gallery image where Oda states those are all swordsman (Roger, Rayleigh, Law, Shanks, Mihawk, Shiryu etc.)
On the contrary you're supposed to understand the sword in order for you to use it correctly, if we have Zoro a swordsman through and through struggling with a sword that's of the O Wazamono grade how do you expect someone who's not of that stature of a swordsman to manage a Saijo O Wazamono - doesn't make much sense.
You also didn't address the Usopp Gallery image where Oda states those are all swordsman (Roger, Rayleigh, Law, Shanks, Mihawk, Shiryu etc.)
I already said they are ‘swordsman’ in practice but not by definition. Mihawk’s drive as far as we know was to be a skilled swordsman, so he went and became the best. That’s Zoro’s goal. That’s not Roger’s or Shank’s goal. You don’t see them salivating over the site of a sword either like other defined swordsman in the series. Again the most recent chapters make this difference clear and it’s real in daily life as well with expertise of any trade.
Until I see either character of Roger or Shanks put emphasis on panel about their drive on the sword, then no it’s not the same sense of swordsmanship as Mihawk or Zoro
Until I see either character of Roger or Shanks put emphasis on panel about their drive on the sword, then no it’s not the same sense of swordsmanship as Mihawk or Zoro
