Versus Battle why sukuna still wins against gojo without 10 shadows

lets end the debate , who is stronger between heian era and gojo ?


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#62
Gojo repeated it for stupid Logjophages at least three times in the chapter. 1 I'm not sure about winning over a 19-finger sukun without 10 shadows. 2 I gave 150%, but I couldn't get him to fight to the full. 3 I'm not strong enough to get through to Sukun. 4 I am glad that I was killed by someone who is stronger than me. LOJOPHAGI=NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
#63
Well said. I'd also argue that it's possible given Sukuna's unrivaled mastery of Jujutsu, he might be able to eventually figure out that space slashing technique himself. Obviously it'd would take much more time.
 
#64
Nope. Early manga chapters, he just said i dont care anyone except megumi. So since that time, sukuna believed that only way to beat gojo is megumis tecnique. People said sukuna have so many secrer in his pocket for the rest fights. However, sukuna is not planned this strategy in culling game. He planned it at the beginning.
 
#65
Nope. Early manga chapters, he just said i dont care anyone except megumi. So since that time, sukuna believed that only way to beat gojo is megumis tecnique. People said sukuna have so many secrer in his pocket for the rest fights. However, sukuna is not planned this strategy in culling game. He planned it at the beginning.
Sukuna actually didn’t want Megumi for Gojo.

He wanted Megumi before he even knew about Mahoraga.

We still don’t know why.
 
#67
It was an extreme diff battle, would have gone anyway. At the end, Sukuna used 10 shadows so we dont know if he could defeat G0jo without it. G0jo can say whatever he wants, we all know that Sukuna was buffed and almost defeated.

Didnt go all out? Much more, he couldnt against G0jo.
Literally breaks the barrier from the inside and tanks gojo attacks well inside the domains by strengthening the territory. But he couldn't do one or the other because of the adaptation. What else do you need? Gojo without maho has no chance in the battle of territories
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Yeah, Sukuna used 99% of his power. Great, almost died.
Sukuna used 30% of his strength at best. He didn't even use full form, instant healing, open techniques, weapons, he hardly even used territory enhancement, crying.
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Nope. Early manga chapters, he just said i dont care anyone except megumi. So since that time, sukuna believed that only way to beat gojo is megumis tecnique. People said sukuna have so many secrer in his pocket for the rest fights. However, sukuna is not planned this strategy in culling game. He planned it at the beginning.
Sukuna didn't even know about the mahoraga at the time of the first chapters lol. He found out about him at the end of the shibuya arch.
 
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#68
Adapting to Limitless is bullshit excuse that Sukuna used when asked why it took so long to beat Gojo.

Gojo is the only one able to use limitless. If he kills Gojo then two things:

  1. First he woulnd't need to deal with anyone who uses limiteless ever again
  2. If he ever dealed with someone who uses limitless then he already knows how to kill that person
So Sukuna couldn't killed Gojo without Mahoraga and then Gojo would win no matter what against whatever version of Sukuna without Mahoraga you guys or Gege invents.

PLUS there is a missing chapter previous to Gojo's death chapter. Gege admitted himself about it.

Gojo was winning before that asspull attack that killed him. That's a fact. He would eventually beat Sukuna.
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We actually know

He saw that Megumi was capable of hosting him without resisting like Yuji
This was pretty shitty explanation from Gege.

Somehow Megumi is as capable as Yuji of cointaining Sukuna but he doesn't have the willpower of Yuji to controle the body.

Maybe we could argue that Yuji had more time to adapt to Sukuna fingers (even after 1 month) but would be too much of an asspull.
 
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#69
What's seemingly always lost in these Gojo vs Sukuna comparisons is that Sukuna is maybe the strongest sorcerer in history with +1000 years to his name.

Gojo doesn't even have 30. He just turned 29 and could probably count his number of real life and death experiences on one hand.

Sukuna was nerfed, but not enough for it not to be evident Gojo with a few more years and/or adequate experience would've beat him.
 
#71
Adapting to Limitless is bullshit excuse that Sukuna used when asked why it took so long to beat Gojo.
sukuna ALWAYS wanted to adapt to limitless
when he thought he had gojo at his mercy , he still wanted to adapt to limitless


Gojo is the only one able to use limitless. If he kills Gojo then two things:

  1. First he woulnd't need to deal with anyone who uses limiteless ever again
  2. If he ever dealed with someone who uses limitless then he already knows how to kill that person
its just not abt adapting to limitless , its abt sukuna upgrading his arsenal
Adapting to limitless gave him the spatial slash which he can use on opponents without limitless too


it gave sukuna a certain ability which can overhax other techniques

So Sukuna couldn't killed Gojo without Mahoraga and then Gojo would win no matter what against whatever version of Sukuna without Mahoraga you guys or Gege invents.
read the thread for that
sukuna will fight gojo differently if it was a pure 1v1 ( with no care abt what happened to him after the fight )
sukuna had to hold back against gojo cause of the students and jujutsu high he will fight later on
he cant reveal all of his cards against gojo

he alrdy bypassed infinity in the 1st chapter of their fight using domain amplification

and after that he broke gojo's domain which fully nullified infinity on its own

sukuna had all the means needed to bypass gojo's inviolability and he showed it

PLUS there is a missing chapter previous to Gojo's death chapter. Gege admitted himself about it.
that was an offscreen joke lol

Gojo was winning before that asspull attack that killed him. That's a fact. He would eventually beat Sukuna.
" winning " against a completely washed up sukuna who isnt even close to his perfect form

This was pretty shitty explanation from Gege.

Somehow Megumi is as capable as Yuji of cointaining Sukuna but he doesn't have the willpower of Yuji to controle the body.
both of them are the same , sukuna was simply vary of megumi's case and thus wanted to take over when megumi's soul was at its lowest
Maybe we could argue that Yuji had more time to adapt to Sukuna fingers (even after 1 month) but would be too much of an asspull.
megumi took 15 fingers at once , even yuji cant handle that
 
#72
sukuna ALWAYS wanted to adapt to limitless
when he thought he had gojo at his mercy , he still wanted to adapt to limitless



its just not abt adapting to limitless , its abt sukuna upgrading his arsenal
Adapting to limitless gave him the spatial slash which he can use on opponents without limitless too


it gave sukuna a certain ability which can overhax other techniques


read the thread for that
sukuna will fight gojo differently if it was a pure 1v1 ( with no care abt what happened to him after the fight )
sukuna had to hold back against gojo cause of the students and jujutsu high he will fight later on
he cant reveal all of his cards against gojo

he alrdy bypassed infinity in the 1st chapter of their fight using domain amplification

and after that he broke gojo's domain which fully nullified infinity on its own

sukuna had all the means needed to bypass gojo's inviolability and he showed it


that was an offscreen joke lol


" winning " against a completely washed up sukuna who isnt even close to his perfect form


both of them are the same , sukuna was simply vary of megumi's case and thus wanted to take over when megumi's soul was at its lowest

megumi took 15 fingers at once , even yuji cant handle that
I feel like you guys are making Sukuna winning more complicted than it needs to be.

Full Body Sukuna attacking Gojo with his tools in tandem with his domain has a much better chance of burning out Gojo’s brain faster when his CT is burnt out.

It’s really that simple.
 
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Herrera95

#73
sukuna ALWAYS wanted to adapt to limitless
when he thought he had gojo at his mercy , he still wanted to adapt to limitless



its just not abt adapting to limitless , its abt sukuna upgrading his arsenal
Adapting to limitless gave him the spatial slash which he can use on opponents without limitless too


it gave sukuna a certain ability which can overhax other techniques


read the thread for that
sukuna will fight gojo differently if it was a pure 1v1 ( with no care abt what happened to him after the fight )
sukuna had to hold back against gojo cause of the students and jujutsu high he will fight later on
he cant reveal all of his cards against gojo

he alrdy bypassed infinity in the 1st chapter of their fight using domain amplification

and after that he broke gojo's domain which fully nullified infinity on its own

sukuna had all the means needed to bypass gojo's inviolability and he showed it


that was an offscreen joke lol


" winning " against a completely washed up sukuna who isnt even close to his perfect form


both of them are the same , sukuna was simply vary of megumi's case and thus wanted to take over when megumi's soul was at its lowest

megumi took 15 fingers at once , even yuji cant handle that
Bullshit. It make no sense for Sukuna to need infinity adaptation attack to use on others. He would adapt something to limitless even if it was only usable on Gojo like Mahoraga first adaptation against limitless that he couldn't replicate. Why the fuck he would need that same attack against others(that didn't even worked on Kashimo, maybe because Sukuna warned him? Idk). It is just a bigger slash how come he could be so dumb that he never thought about doing it?

There is no reason for Sukuna hold back while wasting more of his cursed energy and showing his abilities to everyone while giving them time and hope to make an strategy to kill him. In any fight is better to give your all right at beginning and killing your opponent just like if you are fighting Mahoraga after all everyone can adapt. Mahoraga just does it better and quicker.

Yuji took what 11 fingers at once? And then needed I think less than a hour to take control back? Megumi had much more time.
 
#74
I feel like you guys are making Sukuna winning more complicted than it needs to be.

Full Body Sukuna attacking Gojo with his tools in tandem with his domain has a much better chance of burning out Gojo’s brain faster when his CT is burnt out.

It’s really that simple.
thats what i wrote in this thread ,
i know its actually very easy but ima debunk his points in my thread
if his reply shows him being a biased gojo stan then i can simply ignore him

Bullshit. It make no sense for Sukuna to need infinity adaptation attack to use on others. He would adapt something to limitless even if it was only usable on Gojo like Mahoraga first adaptation against limitless that he couldn't replicate. Why the fuck he would need that same attack against others(that didn't even worked on Kashimo, maybe because Sukuna warned him? Idk).
its just not abt adapting to limitless , its abt sukuna upgrading his arsenal
Adapting to limitless gave him the spatial slash which he can use on opponents without limitless too
if he only needed it for limitless then why will he even use it afterwards ?
and it wasnt useless against kashimo , sukuna wanted to slice his electric wave ( which is stated to evaporate anything ) in half


if u look at it , the spatial slash was more of a defense for sukuna

u can see it cutting the beam in half and leaving sukuna


There is no reason for Sukuna hold back while wasting more of his cursed energy and showing his abilities to everyone while giving them time and hope to make an strategy to kill him. In any fight is better to give your all right at beginning and killing your opponent just like if you are fighting Mahoraga after all everyone can adapt. Mahoraga just does it better and quicker.
gege decided to make sukuna fight like this
what u are giving is just a shallow opinion on how going all out would have been better for him thus he did it
" according to my headcanon it would have been better for sukuna to do this , thats why he actually did it"
it doesnt work like that
sukuna was stated multiple times as someone holding back , even gojo said this

Yuji took what 11 fingers at once? And then needed I think less than a hour to take control back? Megumi had much more time.
u dont get what i am talking abt
- yuji is used to caging sukuna , while it was megumi's 1st time
- megumi was fed more fingers
- megumi's soul was at a low point when sukuna possessed him
all of this is simply stated in this panel , sukuna knew megumi could have been a cage just like yuji
thus he had a plan on how to possess him

seems like sukuna was right , megumi started supressing him and proved to be a cage just like yuji

if u swap megumi with yuji during the vessel swapping chapter
yuji would have gone through the same procedure
 

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#75
I feel like you guys are making Sukuna winning more complicted than it needs to be.

Full Body Sukuna attacking Gojo with his tools in tandem with his domain has a much better chance of burning out Gojo’s brain faster when his CT is burnt out.

It’s really that simple.
Guy said not sure why you’re still discussing this topic comes to the thread to discuss the topic….
 
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