Questions & Mysteries Why the YC2s Sucks?

[JoNdule]

Whitebeard commanders are the only commanders who arent disappointing

Lol

Let's see :
Marco:
can't injure anyone top tier
Choked like fodder
Caught by vA like fodder
Didn't beat anyone at MF or Wano
Defeated like fodder by Teach
Quit piracy

Jozu :
Doffy's stool
Lost a limb in loss to Kuzan

Vista :
Meme Swordsman.
He and Marco couldn't do a thing to akainu in combine attack which shows he has trags AP like Marco too

All Lost to BB pirates like fodders

"Aren't disappointing"

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Dumb ass. That Luffy was 2 powerups from splitting the sky. You think King is 2 powerups away from Kaido?

Luffy barely entered YC1 class after defeating Katakuri, if he could go from being a one-shot material to being able to partially match Kaido with adv.COA and CoC coating, then someone stronger than him would do that as well with the same power-ups. Don't act like Luffy got some nice-to-have abilities and matched Kaido or something, he's got two major power-ups and was still weaker than him.

 

[Monster Luffy]

Lol, as if YC1 are any better. Only one who got top class portrayal and feats are Katakuri. He even outclassed Bigmom.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

The same Luffy who surpassed all YCs in bounty, power and status after barely matching Katakuri
Became of the mightiest pirates with FS

didn't lose pathetically, is the most skilled YC we ever seen and has almost every special skills that there is :fs, CoC, awakening, etc..

King, Marco, Queen are the only YCs to be clowned in fights over and over, to lose badly like fodders
Also lack top haki , no awakening with average skills.

Living in Nw as top YC yet haki isn't even as good as WsW

No amount of excuses is gonna save him from the fact that he lost to someone as weak as WCI Luffy when King and Queen lost to people as strong as current Sanji, Zoro, and GB.

 

[JoNdule]

Luffy barely entered YC1 class after defeating Katakuri, if he could go from being a one-shot material to being able to partially match Kaido with adv.COA and CoC coating, then someone stronger than him would do that as well with the same power-ups. Don't act like Luffy got some nice-to-have abilities and matched Kaido or something, he's got two major power-ups and was still weaker than him.

The Luffu Kaido beat was the same Luffy Katakuri trashes mid diff
No FS Luffy isn't the one that barely matched Kata

FS luffy never got oneshotted, lost upper-low diff to Kaido on the roof
Nice try

 

[Seatonnes]

Lol

Let's see :
Marco:
can't injure anyone top tier
Choked like fodder
Caught by vA like fodder
Didn't beat anyone at MF or Wano
Defeated like fodder by Teach
Quit piracy

Jozu :
Doffy's stool
Lost a limb in loss to Kuzan

Vista :
Meme Swordsman.
He and Marco couldn't do a thing to akainu in combine attack which shows he has trags AP like Marco too

All Lost to BB pirates like fodders

"Aren't disappointing"

Marco stalled 2 commanders aswell as clashing with a 2 yonkos (blackbeard, Big mom), lets not forget him clashing with kizaru effortlessly

Jozu was destroying aokiji until something distracted him, blocked mihawk and destroying crocodile the plot armor god at MarineFord

Ace clashing with aokiji (aokiji had superior df), as well as battling with blackbeard who was debatably YC1 (yami only) which negated aces main way of fighting, dont forget clashing with yamato an acoc user, who was able to clash with kaido (more mega feats in his canon novel as well)

Vista, mihawk considered him a man he needed to know about in the swordsmanship world due to his great strength and prowess

Oden, ....

Izo, damaged kaido showing he is atleast tobiroppo level aswell as trading blows with a cp0 agent, which ended in both being knocked out

Rakuyo, no longer in his prime at MF but was still confident to attack kizaru as well as clashing with Roger Pirates

Curiel, survived akainus magma and fought moria who is atleast tobiroppo

 

[JoNdule]

No amount of excuses is gonna save him from the fact that he lost to someone as weak as WCI Luffy when King and Queen lost to people as strong as current Sanji, Zoro, and GB.

No amount of your tears will change that Oda nerfed sanji and zoro to make King and Queen look good coz they are barely strong as Cracker

If they were that good , they'd be the ones nerfed not Wings

And oh
Call me when Oda says King or Queen are bigger threat than a Yonko like katakuri was hyped during WCI

No-FS Luffy lost to kaido but that dehypes Kata lol
King and Queen lost low eiff to IJ sanji and En'Ou Zoro once they used their PU. Wings aren't even strong as base Kaido

it's silly how people think Luffu wihout fs losing dehypes Kata
Especially when the loss comes from Kaido who's much above Wings and Calamities

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Marco stalled 2 commanders aswell as clashing with a 2 yonkos (blackbeard, Big mom), lets not forget him clashing with kizaru effortlessly

Jozu was destroying aokiji until something distracted him, blocked mihawk and destroying crocodile the plot armor god at MarineFord

Ace clashing with aokiji (aokiji had superior df), as well as battling with blackbeard who was debatably YC1 (yami only) which negated aces main way of fighting, dont forget clashing with yamato an acoc user, who was able to clash with kaido (more mega feats in his canon novel as well)

Vista, mihawk considered him a man he needed to know about in the swordsmanship world due to his great strength and prowess

Oden, ....

Izo, damaged kaido showing he is atleast tobiroppo level aswell as trading blows with a cp0 agent, which ended in both being knocked out

Rakuyo, no longer in his prime at MF but was still confident to attack kizaru as well as clashing with Roger Pirates

Curiel, survived akainus magma and fought moria who is atleast tobiroppo

He did nothing
He always end up clowned
Casual calamities wrecked him
No admiral took Marco serious, same with Bm

Marco is a time waster
He's a no diff for top tiers actually, only regen saves him

 

[Gol D. Roger]

No amount of your tears will change that Oda nerfed sanji and zoro to make King and Queen look good coz they are barely strong as Cracker

If they were that good , they'd be the ones nerfed not Wings

And oh
Call me when Oda says King or Queen are bigger threat than a Yonko like katakuri was hyped during WCI

No-FS Luffy lost to kaido but that dehypes Kata lol
King and Queen lost low eiff to IJ sanji and En'Ou Zoro once they used their PU. Wings aren't even strong as base Kaido

it's silly how people think Luffu wihout fs losing dehypes Kata
Especially when the loss comes from Kaido who's much above Wings and Calamities

Saying other people to not cry while desperately trying to up-play Katakuri for losing to WCI Luffy? Yeah, it's even funnier thinking people who lost to an admiral and current Zoro and Sanji are somehow less powerful than Katakuri when the mas lost a much weaker character.

The Luffu Kaido beat was the same Luffy Katakuri trashes mid diff
No FS Luffy isn't the one that barely matched Kata

FS luffy never got oneshotted, lost upper-low diff to Kaido on the roof
Nice try

Luffy beat Kuri without having FS for 90% of the fight—Although I admit he was given some advantages. If he's got FS from the beginning; then he'd be the one trashing Katakuri, not the other way around.

 

[Seatonnes]

He did nothing
He always end up clowned
Casual calamities wrecked him
No admiral took Marco serious, same with Bm

Marco is a time waster
He's a no diff for top tiers actually, only regen saves him

Kizaru and Marco Stalemated

Spoiler: Big Mom cant beat marco by herself

Spoiler: Marco only holding off not trying to win :yawn:

 

[mugiwalaw]

lmao do you really think Ace himself look sucks because his crew is a fodder?

 

[sanjikun]

Luffy barely entered YC1 class after defeating Katakuri,

Based on what? Your shit powerscaling? 5th Emperor > All Commanders by bounty AND portrayal.

f he could go from being a one-shot material to being able to partially match Kaido with adv.COA and CoC coating, then someone stronger than him would do that as well with the same power-ups.

Yes, Sky Splitter King

Yamato has CoC coating and she's nowhere near Yonko level. You think this fucking fodder ass is going to accomplish this with 2 powerups?

Like I said, being a Zorotard is tantamount to being mentally disabled.

 

[JoNdule]

Saying other people to not cry while desperately trying to up-play Katakuri for losing to WCI Luffy? Yeah, it's even funnier thinking people who lost to an admiral and current Zoro and Sanji are somehow less powerful than Katakuri when the mas lost a much weaker character.




Luffy beat Kuri without having FS for 90% of the fight—Although I admit he was given some advantages. If he's got FS from the beginning; then he'd be the one trashing Katakuri, not the other way around.

Lol calamities lost to 1 admiral badly
A weaker Law did better vs 1 admirals and Doffy
Thats why Calamities suck

Wings aren't above FS Luffy overall
They are only better in specific area :
FS ryuo Luffy >~ Katakuri ~ En'Ou Zoro >= FS Luffy >~ IJ Sanji

Kata fought almost fresh Luffy , trashed him...oda nerfs Kata twice (no fs vs Boundman for sometime & No awakening and mogura + self stab) and Luffy still doesn't win with his punches.
While calamities get to fght Nerfed Zoro (distracted by enma) and nerfed Sanji (having inner issues with his genetics stuff and was already injured by Maria pre that)

You can't find a place Kata lost or was dominant when both fought at their best
Fs kata vs boundman / FS snakeman vs fs Kata

 

[Violent Sanji]

Let be honest. All the YC2’s we’ve seen so far is sucks. I hope Lucky Roo will be an exception.

Smoothie
-Can’t even pass the door in WCI
-Can’t even defeat Reiju
-Got pushed off by King and Marco
-Background character.
Queen
-Got neg-diffed by Memoryless Big Meme
-Got choked by Marco ,alongside with King
-Stalled by Chooper
-Got hitten twice with his weapons.
-Mid diffed by Sanji
-Got neg-diffed by Chad Aramaki, alongside with King
Ace
-His neck is almost broken by Blackbeard
-Got a fodder crew
-Getting be a donut by Papazuki

Sanji
-Do I need the explain this?

Sanji isnt even a yonko commander 🙄

 

[JoNdule]

King is 4 PU from Kaido since he lacks CoC, adhaki, awakening and top tier stats.
Plus lost easily to En'Ou zoro.

Katakuri is literally 1-2 PU from Yonko level lol
he is ~ 5th Emperor Luffy who was 2 PU from Yonko level.
1 PU to be Top tier!

Kata with adcoc or adcoa ~ Top tier /Admiral level
Unlike King and Marco, Kata is where Luffy was pre adcoa to be top tier

 

[VersusPhD]

@BaboonMihawk They suck because an admiral annihilated one of them with ease?

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Based on what? Your shit powerscaling? 5th Emperor > All Commanders by bounty AND portrayal.

If Bounty determines how good Luffy is compared to the other YCs, then what does that make Katakuri compared to Queen? Bounty doesn't just magically start mattering when it projects your agenda. Beating Katakuri was one of the many reasons why Luffy was termed the 5th Emperor. And anyone with a half-working brain knows half of those were exaggerated lies. Imagine, using that as hype to elevate Katakuri when he was literally termed as just another commander of Big Mom alongside Cracker of all things.

Yes, Sky Splitter King

How about we look at Luffy before his eventual power-ups?

Spoiler

King at least has the excuse for not being able to utilize his innate abilities and he's still recovering from the previous battle.

Yamato has CoC coating and she's nowhere near Yonko level. You think this fucking fodder ass is going to accomplish this with 2 powerups?

Well, if you use that brain for a bit, then you'd know your CoC is relative to your overall strength and that Luffy and Yamato have different baselines before they acquired CoC. Luffy was already hitting the YC1 class before he acquired Adv.CoA, which made him one step closer to being a top-tier. So Luffy was already in close proximity to Yamato even before he mastered CoC coating, and that made him go well beyond Yamato.

King is far stronger than Luffy before he acquired Adv.CoA or adv.COC, so if you give him those power-ups, then he'd naturally hit higher levels than the person that was weaker than him before the power-ups. That's as simple as 1+2<1.5+2.

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@BaboonMihawk They suck because an admiral annihilated one of them with ease?

That's the rationale. If they lose to an admiral, then they're more pathetic than that character who lost to WCI Luffy some 150 chapters ago. The funny part is, these guys think they're qualified enough to mock others for having bad takes.

 

[JoNdule]

If Bounty determines how good Luffy is compared to the other YCs, then what does that make Katakuri compared to Queen? Bounty doesn't just magically start mattering when it projects your agenda. Beating Katakuri was one of the many reasons why Luffy was termed the 5th Emperor. And anyone with a half-working brain knows half of those were exaggerated lies. Imagine, using that as hype to elevate Katakuri when he was literally termed as just another commander of Big Mom alongside Cracker of all things.



How about we look at Luffy before his eventual power-ups?

Spoiler

King at least has the excuse for not being able to utilize his innate abilities and he's still recovering from the previous battle.



Well, if you use that brain for a bit, then you'd know your CoC is relative to your overall strength and that Luffy and Yamato have different baselines before they acquired CoC. Luffy was already hitting the YC1 class before he acquired Adv.CoA, which made him one step closer to being a top-tier. So Luffy was already in close proximity to Yamato even before he mastered CoC coating, and that made him go well beyond Yamato.

King is far stronger than Luffy before he acquired Adv.CoA or adv.COC, so if you give him those power-ups, then he'd naturally hit higher levels than the person that was weaker than him before the power-ups. That's as simple as 1+2<1.5+2.

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That's the rationale. If they lose to an admiral, then they're more pathetic than that character who lost to WCI Luffy some 150 chapters ago. The funny part is, these guys think they're qualified enough to mock others for having bad takes.

"King is far above fs luffy"
Yet trashed by GB while having Queen while Law and luffy could handle admirals better

"He was recovering so he cant use his genetics powers" lol
GB wasn't even that serious.
law lost upper-low diffs to Fuji and Doffy while King and Queen lost similar to 1 dude
Are you saying GB > Fuji + Doffy ? Or DR Law > King + Queen?

 

[Gol D. Roger]

"King is far above fs luffy"
Yet trashed by GB while having Queen while Law and luffy could handle admirals better

"He was recovering so he cant use his genetics powers" lol
GB wasn't even that serious.
law lost upper-low diffs to Fuji and Doffy while King and Queen lost similar to 1 dude
Are you saying GB > Fuji + Doffy ? Or DR Law > King + Queen?

Even post-Udon Luffy can't scratch King, forget about WCI Luffy. GB is an admiral dude; he is not Katakuri level—he is someone above Kuri's mom.

 

[Finalbeta]

Queen was better as funny clown character

 

[Don Diego]

Where is Cabaji the Acrobat?

btw There is no such thing as YC1, YC2, etc.