Okay lets see people mention a few things to nerf Killer was as nerfed as he humanly possible? Man had all sorts of sufferings, he was tortured, he was maimed, he lost his ability to move, his will was broken, he had no mental stability you name it. He is one poor bastard ain't he?
But he is really that much of a poor bastard?
Lets see
Killer was Bandaged So He was Tortured..Was he?? Hmm..
Yeah so more than likely the bandages are nothing more than Eiichoro Oda's homage to Makoto Shishio's character belong to Rorouni Kenshin, you know the manga from a mangaka who Oda worked as an assistant for before even writing One Piece and not that he was actually damaged.
Now we know that he didn't showed any physical weakness, nor did he specify that there are wounds behind those bandages. But lets for the sake of argument, further analyze this.
So Killer is Orochi's personal assassin who works in the shadows for Orochi but he comes back to him every night to be tortured? Same Killer who Orochi has no personal grudge against and is using him to do important tasks for him. Orochi is purposefully nerfing him everyday. Does that not make negative sense for Orochi to call Killer to torture chamber (Or any other chamber) every night after he performs assassination so he can beat his ass and nerf for next day ? Well maybe not so lets dive a little further into that..
I suppose by being tortured everyday, Killer would have developed a few scars. Let see if we can find any scars
Lets see what part of his body was actually covered in bandages
So we see Man's chest, with bandages removed, a good chunk of his face through his mask and no visible scars.
So far we see a big part of his torso, his face an no scars found.
Lets dive in a little further and see what happens a few days later
And now we see Killer's entire chest, just a few days after getting out of Udon Prison. And what do we see? Oh yes No scars at all.
So where was this life change torture that so badly damaged Killer that he couldn't fight at his full potential and why isn't there any hints of that torture left?
Yeah not a lot of canon logic supporting that notion.
Killer was Mentally Unstable..Was he?? hmm
SMILE has not mentally broken anybody. Yasui and every member of Ebisu town had only lost their ability to show any expression besides laughing and Smiling but they could function mentally just fine. And even make logical thought out decisions like Yasu did of taking blame and getting executed right here.
As a matter of fact, Killer himself had no issues functioning properly as far as his mental state is concerned. He was acting like any normal function person would act, even asking Zoro a logical question of why he is choosing to put his life on the line for a woman he just met.
Or wondering why Hiyori is calling Shogun by the name like any normal mentally stable person would.
He called Zoro Zorojuro the same way Hawkins called Zoro Zorojuro, its not because they forgot who Zoro is but instead they are playing along.
So he doesn't act like a mentally unstable person, it is never stated that SMILE makes you mentally unstable, he hasn't made any decision that would show that he is mentally unstable, why is he mentally unstable then?
Yeah not a lot of logic supporting that either.
But wait..
Killer was laughing like a mad man
Well with simple attempt to connect the dots we can see that he is overcome with emotions and is at a loss of words because at this moment he is a complete failure. He was fighting for his captains life and failed at even that?
His will was broken so that nerfs him..does it?? hmm..
So this is the only some what logical argument with this whole "Killer was nerfed" mumbo jumbo but the issue is, we don't have any real basis for that either, just an assumption. Like how exactly was his will broken, how much did it effect him? Could it perhaps be same as Hawkins situation where he realized he has no chance of getting out of this situation without giving in. Is Hawkin's combat ability effected by having his will broken?
Another side to that argument is that, perhaps it makes him stronger because now he has a clear goal in mind. He is fighting for the life of his best friend and his captain and just because of that he will try his absolute best to do what Orochi tells him to do?
I mean we had a panel of Hawkins saying Orochi uses Hostages to make people do what he wants them to do. Makes sense, I think it was when he was talking to Law. To late for me to search that but we got many knowledgeable fans here, I am sure you guys already know about that.
He was using Scythes and not mechanical sickles so that nerfs him..Does it?? hmm..
The issue with this train of thought is that, it is very arbitrary with more questions than answers. Did Orochi force him to use those Scythes and take those gauntlets or did Killer chose those scythes over his gauntlets? If Orochi force Killer to chose those scythes than did he keep Mechanical sickles with himself or did he destroy them?
Now the last question raises two more questions
-If Orochi destroyed the Mechanical sickles, how does Killer have Mechanical sickles now?
-If Orochi kept the Mechanical Sickles how does Killer have sickle now?
If Orochi let Killer keep the sickles and he still forced him to use Scythes does Killer have to show Orochi every night that he is using Scythes and not sickles? If so when he is on the job why doesn't he put Mechanical sickles on do the job and then take mechanical sickles on and then go to Orochi to clock of the job?
Is there some kinda camera that is tracking Killer at his job? Perhaps Job evaluation noticing that Killer isn't using his sickles?
Like I said Waaaaaay too many questions.
Simple answer??
As my homie @Zenos7 mentioned today, Oda wanted to keep Kamazou's idenitity a secret, so he gave him different weapons. And it was one of the biggest shockers (My personal favorite and only one I liked) of Wano. If he was wearing his Mechanical sickles, would that really be a shocker?
He was using those scythes just fine, it even gave him a range and attack power boost as the scythe seems to have bigger blade and is probably of great grade. Regardless a very arbitrary metric to use here, we don't know if Sickles provide more advantages or disadvantages. If Killer puts on his Gauntlets only after he looses his long scythes, perhaps Killer prefers those Long scythes but only pulled Sickle out because Scythe is not avaible. I don't know but it makes sense.
I hope I changed a few minds here..But its okay if I didn't. Difference of opinions on Japanese drawings I guess
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But he is really that much of a poor bastard?
Lets see
Killer was Bandaged So He was Tortured..Was he?? Hmm..
Yeah so more than likely the bandages are nothing more than Eiichoro Oda's homage to Makoto Shishio's character belong to Rorouni Kenshin, you know the manga from a mangaka who Oda worked as an assistant for before even writing One Piece and not that he was actually damaged.
Now we know that he didn't showed any physical weakness, nor did he specify that there are wounds behind those bandages. But lets for the sake of argument, further analyze this.
So Killer is Orochi's personal assassin who works in the shadows for Orochi but he comes back to him every night to be tortured? Same Killer who Orochi has no personal grudge against and is using him to do important tasks for him. Orochi is purposefully nerfing him everyday. Does that not make negative sense for Orochi to call Killer to torture chamber (Or any other chamber) every night after he performs assassination so he can beat his ass and nerf for next day ? Well maybe not so lets dive a little further into that..
I suppose by being tortured everyday, Killer would have developed a few scars. Let see if we can find any scars
Lets see what part of his body was actually covered in bandages
So we see Man's chest, with bandages removed, a good chunk of his face through his mask and no visible scars.
So far we see a big part of his torso, his face an no scars found.
Lets dive in a little further and see what happens a few days later
And now we see Killer's entire chest, just a few days after getting out of Udon Prison. And what do we see? Oh yes No scars at all.
So where was this life change torture that so badly damaged Killer that he couldn't fight at his full potential and why isn't there any hints of that torture left?
Yeah not a lot of canon logic supporting that notion.
Killer was Mentally Unstable..Was he?? hmm
SMILE has not mentally broken anybody. Yasui and every member of Ebisu town had only lost their ability to show any expression besides laughing and Smiling but they could function mentally just fine. And even make logical thought out decisions like Yasu did of taking blame and getting executed right here.
As a matter of fact, Killer himself had no issues functioning properly as far as his mental state is concerned. He was acting like any normal function person would act, even asking Zoro a logical question of why he is choosing to put his life on the line for a woman he just met.
Or wondering why Hiyori is calling Shogun by the name like any normal mentally stable person would.
He called Zoro Zorojuro the same way Hawkins called Zoro Zorojuro, its not because they forgot who Zoro is but instead they are playing along.
So he doesn't act like a mentally unstable person, it is never stated that SMILE makes you mentally unstable, he hasn't made any decision that would show that he is mentally unstable, why is he mentally unstable then?
Yeah not a lot of logic supporting that either.
But wait..
Killer was laughing like a mad man
Well with simple attempt to connect the dots we can see that he is overcome with emotions and is at a loss of words because at this moment he is a complete failure. He was fighting for his captains life and failed at even that?
His will was broken so that nerfs him..does it?? hmm..
So this is the only some what logical argument with this whole "Killer was nerfed" mumbo jumbo but the issue is, we don't have any real basis for that either, just an assumption. Like how exactly was his will broken, how much did it effect him? Could it perhaps be same as Hawkins situation where he realized he has no chance of getting out of this situation without giving in. Is Hawkin's combat ability effected by having his will broken?
Another side to that argument is that, perhaps it makes him stronger because now he has a clear goal in mind. He is fighting for the life of his best friend and his captain and just because of that he will try his absolute best to do what Orochi tells him to do?
I mean we had a panel of Hawkins saying Orochi uses Hostages to make people do what he wants them to do. Makes sense, I think it was when he was talking to Law. To late for me to search that but we got many knowledgeable fans here, I am sure you guys already know about that.
He was using Scythes and not mechanical sickles so that nerfs him..Does it?? hmm..
The issue with this train of thought is that, it is very arbitrary with more questions than answers. Did Orochi force him to use those Scythes and take those gauntlets or did Killer chose those scythes over his gauntlets? If Orochi force Killer to chose those scythes than did he keep Mechanical sickles with himself or did he destroy them?
Now the last question raises two more questions
-If Orochi destroyed the Mechanical sickles, how does Killer have Mechanical sickles now?
-If Orochi kept the Mechanical Sickles how does Killer have sickle now?
If Orochi let Killer keep the sickles and he still forced him to use Scythes does Killer have to show Orochi every night that he is using Scythes and not sickles? If so when he is on the job why doesn't he put Mechanical sickles on do the job and then take mechanical sickles on and then go to Orochi to clock of the job?
Is there some kinda camera that is tracking Killer at his job? Perhaps Job evaluation noticing that Killer isn't using his sickles?
Like I said Waaaaaay too many questions.
Simple answer??
As my homie @Zenos7 mentioned today, Oda wanted to keep Kamazou's idenitity a secret, so he gave him different weapons. And it was one of the biggest shockers (My personal favorite and only one I liked) of Wano. If he was wearing his Mechanical sickles, would that really be a shocker?
He was using those scythes just fine, it even gave him a range and attack power boost as the scythe seems to have bigger blade and is probably of great grade. Regardless a very arbitrary metric to use here, we don't know if Sickles provide more advantages or disadvantages. If Killer puts on his Gauntlets only after he looses his long scythes, perhaps Killer prefers those Long scythes but only pulled Sickle out because Scythe is not avaible. I don't know but it makes sense.
I hope I changed a few minds here..But its okay if I didn't. Difference of opinions on Japanese drawings I guess
@Big D. Kaios @comrade @Sentinel @Mr. Anderson @Chrono @JazzMazz @HA001 @Light D Lamperouge @TheAncientCenturion @Jiihad @Cinera @BigChungus2018 @MonsterZoro @MarineHQ62 @silverfire @ZenZu
