Speculations Why wasn’t Doflamingo invited to the Holy Knights?

#81
If jack the jobber wasn't trying to gas minority groups, his bounty would be significantly lower
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Anyway,the beast pirates have more going on with them. King is a lunarian, Queen is ex Mads, and they're all known for causing a lot of destruction, Katakuri isn't really known in that way
The WG didn’t account those into their bounties. They weren’t even aware king was arbel and queen was scien.

Plus Oda used characters direct statements relating their power level to their bounties. Pretty clear what Oda was getting at. King ~ Queen (1.3) > Katakuri (1.0)
 
#84
Their bounty posters say “King” and “Queen” and Vegapunk himself didn’t know King was Arbel despite being the one who spent the most time with him

The bounties of these two were purely power based as Marco the Phoenix (one of the most veteran pirates in the manga) testified to.
No, that doesn't really work, he was broken out of PH by Kaido. It's not like it was done secretly or anything... the WG is just using their pirate names I guess
 
#85
No, that doesn't really work, he was broken out of PH by Kaido. It's not like it was done secretly or anything... the WG is just using their pirate names I guess
They only do that if their real names are a secret.

And again, none of this matters cause Marco the phoenix said their strength warrants a bounty worth MORE than a billion and multiple characters in WCI said the same thing about kata except they said his strength warrants just a billion

Its a very clear and purposeful statement.
 
#86
They only do that if their real names are a secret.

And again, none of this matters cause Marco the phoenix said their strength warrants a bounty worth MORE than a billion and multiple characters in WCI said the same thing about kata except they said his strength warrants just a billion

Its a very clear and purposeful statement.
Not really, no one would know who "alber" is. "King" is a famous pirate
 
#87
Not really, no one would know who "alber" is. "King" is a famous pirate
The only reason “King” is the famous pirate is cause “King” is on the bounty poster. It’s like the WG calling Usopp sogeking until they found out it was Usopp in Dressrosa then updating the posters.

And again, when Oda makes a character say “their power warrants a bounty above a billion” nothing else matters.
 
#88
The only reason “King” is the famous pirate is cause “King” is on the bounty poster. It’s like the WG calling Usopp sogeking until they found out it was Usopp in Dressrosa then updating the posters.

And again, when Oda makes a character say “their power warrants a bounty above a billion” nothing else matters.
Wait no, the WG calls Usopp sogeking because he was doing pirate shit under the name sogeking, meaning the general public would know him as that. The WG is a reactionary force to piracy. I don't really care about an empty statement from Marco. Again zoro and sanji currently have lower bounties then them even though they beat them, no? Clearly those bounties were partly for all the destruction they caused
 
#89
Wait no, the WG calls Usopp sogeking because he was doing pirate shit under the name sogeking, meaning the general public would know him as that. The WG is a reactionary force to piracy. I don't really care about an empty statement from Marco. Again zoro and sanji currently have lower bounties then them even though they beat them, no? Clearly those bounties were partly for all the destruction they caused
The WG called Usopp sogeking cause they didn’t know it was Usopp

Zoro and Sanji got lowered bounties than they deserved cause the WG didn’t know how they defeated king and queen all they know Zoro and Sanji fought a weakened king and queen after they fought Marco.

And Marcos statement definitely ain’t empty. Dudes been in the new world fighting high and top tiers longer than most in the verse so it’s safe to say he knows how to judge peoples power levels pretty accurately.

Oda was intentional. Kata was the new world Mr. 3/Blueno. The third strongest who got taken out by Luffy first
 
#90
The WG called Usopp sogeking cause they didn’t know it was Usopp

Zoro and Sanji got lowered bounties than they deserved cause the WG didn’t know how they defeated king and queen all they know Zoro and Sanji fought a weakened king and queen after they fought Marco.

And Marcos statement definitely ain’t empty. Dudes been in the new world fighting high and top tiers longer than most in the verse so it’s safe to say he knows how to judge peoples power levels pretty accurately.

Oda was intentional. Kata was the new world Mr. 3/Blueno. The third strongest who got taken out by Luffy first
No, like I explained "usopp" is irrelevant to put On a bounty poster if no one knows who that is. Secondly, wasn't there literal cipher pol agents at Wano monitoring the raid? Why wouldn't they know that King and Queen lost to Zoro and Sanji?
 
#91
No, like I explained "usopp" is irrelevant to put On a bounty poster if no one knows who that is. Secondly, wasn't there literal cipher pol agents at Wano monitoring the raid? Why wouldn't they know that King and Queen lost to Zoro and Sanji?
They do know King and Queen lost to Zoro and Sanji, they don’t know if King and Queen were still at full power after they fought Marco the Phoenix.

That’s the thing the WG was monitoring the fights and they saw Marco and BP fodder vs King and Queen for a while then Zoro and Sanji vs King and Queen. The WG just assumed king and Queen were weakened by the earlier fights just like Kaido was

King and Queens strength is 1.3 billion that’s just canon. They’re stronger than Katakuri.
 
#92
They do know King and Queen lost to Zoro and Sanji, they don’t know if King and Queen were still at full power after they fought Marco the Phoenix.

That’s the thing the WG was monitoring the fights and they saw Marco and BP fodder vs King and Queen for a while then Zoro and Sanji vs King and Queen. The WG just assumed king and Queen were weakened by the earlier fights just like Kaido was
Based on what lol? This sounds like headcanon unless I'm forgetting something. Why would they assume Marco seriously damaged King and Queen?
 
#93
Based on what lol? This sounds like headcanon unless I'm forgetting something. Why would they assume Marco seriously damaged King and Queen?
Because Marco was fighting them for half an hour and looking at the fight, Marco was bodying them left and right.

We’re told directly from Marco their bounty is fully indicative of their strength. I see no reason to ignore that just because it would make them stronger than another pirate subordinate.
 
#94
Because Marco was fighting them for half an hour and looking at the fight, Marco was bodying them left and right.

We’re told directly from Marco their bounty is fully indicative of their strength. I see no reason to ignore that just because it would make them stronger than another pirate subordinate.
Wait, but were king and queen ever shown to be injured? Did you just make the WG lowballing Zoro and Sanji because of that up? Lmfao
 
#99
Bro, Marco is 1.3 billion right? You're saying he was beating up King and Queen? This isn't helping your argument
I’m saying the WG assumed that Marco weakened king and queen just enough cord ins billion Berry level pirates to just barely win.

Marco ~ King ~ Queen > Katakuri is a canon thing. Oda wouldn’t have used multiple statements to equate their bounties to their strength otherwise.
 
I’m saying the WG assumed that Marco weakened king and queen just enough cord ins billion Berry level pirates to just barely win.

Marco ~ King ~ Queen > Katakuri is a canon thing. Oda wouldn’t have used multiple statements to equate their bounties to their strength otherwise.
Yeah, if the WG believed that Marco was bodying king and queen, they have inflated bounties. Literally 1v2
 
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