Speculations Why wasn’t Doflamingo invited to the Holy Knights?

Back then, sure, if Doflamingo was just as strong as he is now, he would have folded Lucci, but the WG wanted to kill Doflamingo all the way up to the present, meaning they didn't bother sending a strong CP0 member or a Holy Knight at all.

Egghead Lucci stomps Dressrosa Doflamingo. I won't elaborate on that on this thread.

Hell, even back then they had the choice of sending the marines before they granted him the Shichibukai title but they didn't bother with Garp or admirals.

Marines are always behind pirates, reason Tsuru was always behind Doffy.

Sent admirals? Thats exactly what Law said they will do.

Heck, even at the end, an ex fleet admiral, 1 admiral, Tsuru, other Vice Captains and 3 ships was what it took to take him to impel down.

Doffy > Lucci current or old
 
We know that the WG is willing to raise anyone sufficiently strong enough to “godhood” in order to let them join the HKs. This is what would’ve happened if Loki accepted, and it’s possible that Gunko was in Loki’s position before (since she’s never been introduced as Saint or given a surname), but accepted the invite unlike Loki.

So how come Doflamingo, an ex-CD who even went as far as to deliver his father’s head to them as a show of solidarity, was never invited to the Holy Knights? Was he not strong enough?
Easy answer is that he wasn't a CD any longer.
 
Because he wasn't strong enough, obviously

Gunkos arrows would have easily broke the birdcage, She has stronger AP than Fuji's armament

All of them are Fleet admiral level

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Marines are always behind pirates, reason Tsuru was always behind Doffy.

Sent admirals? Thats exactly what Law said they will do.

Heck, even at the end, an ex fleet admiral, 1 admiral, Tsuru, other Vice Captains and 3 ships was what it took to take him to impel down.

Doffy > Lucci current or old
Is your implication that an ex fleet admiral + 1 admiral + Tsuru + other Vice Captains + 3 ships are needed to handle him?

I do not think I want to go further if that's the case. And even then, that once again just would mean they didn't really try capturing him before he became a Shichibukai, as I said.

Egghead Lucci >> Dressrosa Doflamingo
 

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Tbh Kuma was offered a choice, blackmailing means forcing someone unwilling; Kuma was willing.

But what I meant is the fact that Kuma was basically a Revolutionary instead of the obedient pawn they think he was.
LMFAO yeah cause they were uhh threatening the life of Bonney and holding her captive....

so then once again he was never a traitor simply undercover... even though revo life has nothing to do with his warlord life they were two seperate lives.
 
Is your implication that an ex fleet admiral + 1 admiral + Tsuru + other Vice Captains + 3 ships are needed to handle him?

I do not think I want to go further if that's the case. And even then, that once again just would mean they didn't really try capturing him before he became a Shichibukai, as I said.

Egghead Lucci >> Dressrosa Doflamingo

Obviously they will defeat him. What I said, is that was needed to have him in check and guarantee take him to ID 💯% successfully.

As Jack mentioned, something worthy for a pirate as Doffy.

Nothing shows Lucci above Doffy, nothing.

Marines are after pirates always. Marines going after warlords just happened because they knew where they were lol, pirates are always going from 1 place to another, hiding.
 
LMFAO yeah cause they were uhh threatening the life of Bonney and holding her captive....
Lol, and so? Kima didn't know.

He was said "we would cure Bonney of you do this", and he said yeah.

so then once again he was never a traitor simply undercover... even though revo life has nothing to do with his warlord life they were two seperate lives.
His Revo life Is the reason he saved Luffy.
 
Doffy was strong enough to be granted the rank of Shichibukai even though the CDs despised his family for rejecting their god status.
He had CoC. The biggest indication for strength and potential that ww know of. If someone claimed that Doffys strength was not enough to get the title then I can only take this seriously if there is a good explanation as to why.

Its easy to explain for Loki. It took a Yonko to get him back under control. Loki is obviously a beast.
Doffy was trying to avoid conflict with an Admiral if possible, but was ready to engage in combat with Fujitora if it became necessary. Its not a path someone would take if they are sure they would lose.

Latest villain syndrome.
Every arc the villains of previous arcs drop by 1-2 tiers in the perception of the audience.
Doffy was not chosen because the CDs are petty cunts. Also Loki is the heir to the throne of Elbaph. Its easier to explain why god status was granted to a king than to a well known commoner like Doffy. It would raise questions when Doffy was picked for the job, but guys like Mihawk were not. For Loki no such political problem would arise.
 
Doffy was strong enough to be granted the rank of Shichibukai even though the CDs despised his family for rejecting their god status.
He had CoC. The biggest indication for strength and potential that ww know of. If someone claimed that Doffys strength was not enough to get the title then I can only take this seriously if there is a good explanation as to why.

Its easy to explain for Loki. It took a Yonko to get him back under control. Loki is obviously a beast.
Doffy was trying to avoid conflict with an Admiral if possible, but was ready to engage in combat with Fujitora if it became necessary. Its not a path someone would take if they are sure they would lose.

Latest villain syndrome.
Every arc the villains of previous arcs drop by 1-2 tiers in the perception of the audience.
Doffy was not chosen because the CDs are petty cunts. Also Loki is the heir to the throne of Elbaph. Its easier to explain why god status was granted to a king than to a well known commoner like Doffy. It would raise questions when Doffy was picked for the job, but guys like Mihawk were not. For Loki no such political problem would arise.
Consider Doffy chose to kill Smoker, knowing that if he was able to do so, his fight against Aokiji was inevitable. As he failed, there was no reason to fight Aokiji, all this after he gave Aokiji a free shot which failed to fullly stop Doffy. That same Aokiji literally told Smoker to tell Akainu to use admirals to check the matter.

Consider also, that Doffy was allied with Kaido and were preparing for a war, Kaido chose Doffy over people like Big Mom lol, and at end, it was a Yonko who replaced him as partner for Kaido.

By words of Caesar Clown, not once, but twice, he said that he was save under the sleeves of Doflamingo against Big Mom. Such was his confidence to Doflamingo, he knew Big Mom wouldn't go after him.

Luffy after defeating Doflamingo, Fujitora mentioned that now his new threat were gonna be Yonko, not commanders.

Oda mentioned that Doffy was gonna appear at wano together with Kaido as a big threat, yet he chose to give him his own arc.

Took 2 supernovas to defeat Doflamingo, the same number it took Big Mom, the difference is that they had awakening, Big Mom never gave to Law the same level of damage Doffy gave him lol.

Doffy was the king of the underworld, the most confident.

Garp was after Roger, failed to capture him.
Sengoku was after Shiki, failed to capture him.
Tsure was after Doffy, failed to capture him and even had to accept his warlord status lol.

Doffy has a lot of potrayal and hype.
 

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Lol, and so? Kima didn't know.

He was said "we would cure Bonney of you do this", and he said yeah.



His Revo life Is the reason he saved Luffy.
bruh go read the manga you clearly don't understand the storyline.

being a revolutionary had nothing to do with saving luffy.....
 
Some of this fanbase is so deranged.

"They couldn't kill me, no matter how hard they tried"

*He was too weak*

Doffy's fucking rival in the Marines was Tsuru who in her prime was always beside Garp, Sengoku, Aokiji, Akainu, etc.

 
Some of this fanbase is so deranged.

"They couldn't kill me, no matter how hard they tried"

*He was too weak*

Doffy's fucking rival in the Marines was Tsuru who in her prime was always beside Garp, Sengoku, Aokiji, Akainu, etc.

man's acting like they sent garling after him
also she wasn't his rival, doffy was straight up afraid of her and it's not even implied he clashed with her once
 
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