Questions & Mysteries Why Zoro and Sanji can still get CoC (Specialist vs. User)

[BleakAsh]

Zoro told Baroque Works that he would join if he can be the leader and he is Luffy's Rayleigh basically - Instant CoC wank
Sanji is Prince of Germa and all of that leading in Punk Hazard and now in Wano = Instant CoC wank

If Zoro and Sanji won't have CoC I will be fucking disappointed tbh.

Sanji with Conquerers spirit... I'm not against the idea since the top 3 brass can potentially have Coc... but zoro's case is Odd.. oda should clarify what distinct Coc zoro has...

Look there is a high possibility that Zoro's spirit is soo potent that the likes of kaido can call it Coc lol that can also be the reason why zoro doesn't have those Coc Streaks in Ashura... if that is the case then here's the thing

If spirit manifestation is Coc... then do sanji's flames count as spirit too or are they just spirit driven? coz the angrier he is the nor his flame burn

 

[Marco]

Was 100% certain Zoro would get it at some point. Glad it is now confirmed!

Sanji will not get it. Still on that train.

Now that Zoro has it, I'm fairly certain a large portion of the Sanji fandom who were confident Zoro will never get it, despite the hints, will now say Sanji will get it too

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Sanji will have CoC and another strawhat will have it (maybe Ussop). Luffy will do what Xebec was unable to and have conqueners follow and work together with him

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Was 100% certain Zoro would get it at some point. Glad it is now confirmed!

Sanji will not get it. Still on that train.

Now that Zoro has it, I'm fairly certain a large portion of the Sanji fandom who were confident Zoro will never get it, despite the hints, will now say Sanji will get it too

Top Tier Pirate Crews have more than 1 COC user. Why wouldn't Sanji have it? That is dumb given he is among Monster Trio and proven he have traits of COC inside of him.

I never met any fan on Sanji side stating Zoro won't get it. What you talking about?

 

[BleakAsh]

Sanji with Conquerers spirit... I'm not against the idea since the top 3 brass can potentially have Coc... but zoro's case is Odd.. oda should clarify what distinct Coc zoro has...

Look there is a high possibility that Zoro's spirit is soo potent that the likes of kaido can call it Coc lol that can also be the reason why zoro doesn't have those Coc Streaks in Ashura... if that is the case then here's the thing

If spirit manifestation is Coc... then do sanji's flames count as spirit too or are they just spirit driven? coz the angrier he is the nor his flame burn

 

[Finalbeta]

Sanji has hardly substantial reasons to "get" CoC, what would they be in the first place? I heard of the leaderhood argument but it felt extensively weak the way it was presented.

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Sanji has hardly substantial reasons to "get" CoC, what would they be in the first place? I heard of the leaderhood argument but it felt extensively weak the way it was presented.

He fits a lot of traits on why he will get COC too. What headcannon you on?

Sanji have these traits on why he is possibly COC:

Infamous/Royal Bloodline (Germa whether he acknowledge or not)
Leadership (Have lead crew and even forces that aren't his crew from time to time)
Strong Will (He have shown many times on his resolve on situations)

Also there is a new theory going about his DJ could connect into Adv. COA for later given it can burn someone not just outside, but inside. Whether he can do that now or later, have to see in fights.

 

[Finalbeta]

He fits a lot of traits on why he will get COC too. What headcannon you on?

Sanji have these traits on why he is possibly COC:

Infamous/Royal Bloodline (Germa whether he acknowledge or not)
Leadership (Have lead crew and even forces that aren't his crew from time to time)
Strong Will (He have shown many times on his resolve on situations)

Also there is a new theory going about his DJ could connect into Adv. COA for later given it can burn someone not just outside, but inside. Whether he can do that now or later, have to see in fights.

Blood line sounds like an ever weaker argument. Strong will looks puny. DJ featuring resemblances for CoC way way far fetched.

Nothing solid constituting hints for CoC.

 

[langitbarat]

1. Luffy has the Voice of All Things, so if Zoro Sanji Jinbe Yamato has CoC, he will still be special.

2. I thought most of you will downplay "why sanji lol, zoro made sense", surprisingly most people itt can have sound discussion about it. I like you guys a lil bit more now, I used to be prejudiced that this is Zorogen forum.
Anyway, Sanji unlocking it is important IMO, because that's how Luffy's crew surpass Shanks' (his goal in Chapter 1). Yonkou's crew has 2 Conquerors, sosan SH must have 3 to be at least as legendary as Rocks.
Tbf tho, either Jinbe or Yamato (made more sense bcz of Kaido bloodline & Oden wank) can have it instead of Sanji.

Point is, SH needs to be more special in general, having only 2 Conquerors is too mainstream. Lol.

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Blood line sounds like an ever weaker argument. Strong will looks puny. DJ featuring resemblances for CoC way way far fetched.

Nothing solid constituting hints for CoC.

How? There characters who has COC and bloodline helps? Luffy, Ace, Katakuri, etc.. It is a trait some have on that.
Only in Head Piece, your not helping your case at all.
Not really. Fire can burn outside and inside, so make sense with his fighting style.

 

[Un-amed]

If Oda is asked about Sanji's CoC he'll say that he only needs to conquer woman's heart...And that's what Sanji does in every arc...So that'll be Sanji's CoC...
At this point I'm 99% sure that this is his manifestation of CoC...
And as ridiculous as it sounds, fits with Oda and Sanji...

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

1. Luffy has the Voice of All Things, so if Zoro Sanji Jinbe Yamato has CoC, he will still be special.

2. I thought most of you will downplay "why sanji lol, zoro made sense", surprisingly most people itt can have sound discussion about it. I like you guys a lil bit more now, I used to be prejudiced that this is Zorogen forum.
Anyway, Sanji unlocking it is important IMO, because that's how Luffy's crew surpass Shanks' (his goal in Chapter 1). Yonkou's crew has 2 Conquerors, sosan SH must have 3 to be at least as legendary as Rocks.
Tbf tho, either Jinbe or Yamato (made more sense bcz of Kaido bloodline & Oden wank) can have it instead of Sanji.

Point is, SH needs to be more special in general, having only 2 Conquerors is too mainstream. Lol.

They are toxic users, I wouldn't call them 'true' Zoro fans.

Also not just surpassing Shanks' crew and think he has more than one COC too. When you look at Roger, Whitebeard, Xebec, etc., they have a lot of COC users. Doesn't make sense it's just Luffy with COC. Zoro, Sanji, Jimbei, Usopp, and Yamato (If she does join) are possibilities to have, but we have to see.

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If Oda is asked about Sanji's CoC he'll say that he only needs to conquer woman's heart...And that's what Sanji does in every arc...So that'll be Sanji's CoC...
At this point I'm 99% sure that this is his manifestation of CoC...
And as ridiculous as it sounds, fits with Oda and Sanji...

I mean using COC that effects everyone while effecting women's the most that make him swoon for him is believable and interesting take. Though pretty sure he does see Sanji having COC even serious level.

 

[KageFumi]

Blood line sounds like an ever weaker argument. Strong will looks puny. DJ featuring resemblances for CoC way way far fetched.

Nothing solid constituting hints for CoC.

Bloodline, leader, royalty, are weak ass reasons for CoC user. All of the Reverie participants will be CoC user because they all are royalty.

 

[PrinceKun]

Zoro has coc it's confirmed now, with all the clues we had it's not surprising

sanji will never get it, he doesn't have the will

 

[Sanji D Cook]

Bloodline, leader, royalty, are weak ass reasons for CoC user. All of the Reverie participants will be CoC user because they all are royalty.

No one is saying that all royalty has to have CoC. It just so happens that most current CoC users has those qualities. It means people with these traits have a high chance of unlocking CoC.

 

[Geo]

Usopp has a higher chance of getting it than Sanji

 

[humanbeing]

ja pretty sure Zoro has it . Sanji and Yamato are following.

 

[Finalbeta]

Bloodline, leader, royalty, are weak ass reasons for CoC user. All of the Reverie participants will be CoC user because they all are royalty.

Yes it's not what being a supreme ruler / king is supposed to entail. That's a different realm of greatness.

 

[Seth]

Sanji with Conquerers spirit... I'm not against the idea since the top 3 brass can potentially have Coc... but zoro's case is Odd.. oda should clarify what distinct Coc zoro has...

Look there is a high possibility that Zoro's spirit is soo potent that the likes of kaido can call it Coc lol that can also be the reason why zoro doesn't have those Coc Streaks in Ashura... if that is the case then here's the thing

If spirit manifestation is Coc... then do sanji's flames count as spirit too or are they just spirit driven? coz the angrier he is the nor his flame burn

Panda will probably quote me with his tears but it needs to be said.


Sanji's Hell Memories/Diable Jambe does not mean it's CoC.

I mean Oda needs to do a lot of explanation with CoC doing damage, CoC aura manifestation, and shit.


If all you need is to do some crazy technique not related to Devil Fruits then everyone will pick characters who apparently have CoC left and right.

I always knew Zoro will have the Conquerors Haki.

I think Zoro's goal lowkey requires to have it.

 

[BleakAsh]

Sanji's Hell Memories/Diable Jambe does not mean it's CoC.

yea ik that it doesn't but its spirit related nonetheless.. but i don't consider it to be something that would assert will on others