Questions & Mysteries Why Zoro and Sanji can still get CoC (Specialist vs. User)
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I guess Zoro doesn’t have coc either
nor does WB
I guess Zoro doesn’t have coc either
nor does WB
So Zoro choosing someone over his dream means he shouldn't have COC? Again I stated same thing which is stupid to say someone doesn't deserve COC by them putting their captain and friends over their own. Your actually helping my argument there.
He told her she was being 'dumb' for stating that to enemy face, so by that logic why should Usopp have COC if he stating that? Your argument is about him having 'strong-will', but he saying Nami did something stupid by doing that. Hypocrisy is stupid on you guys.
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I mean depends as if your willing to put their dreams for others, it can be a trait as most COC users have done that.
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I mean depends as if your willing to put their dreams for others, it can be a trait as most COC users have done that.
Coc aside, that instance with WB and the scenario with ussop and nami are different.. WB wasn't ready to gamble his children's lives for vengeance.. in ussop's case he and nami were being forced to utter treacherous things.. and ussop was ready to give in... i mean yes ussop is generally strong willed but he isn't zoro, sanji, or nami who'd die than belittle their captain.. ussop himself said that he'd easily give in if he get caught hence why he asked sanji to protect him.. it was gag but literal regardless...
any WBP would rather die than speak against WB... in a similar situation
any WBP would rather die than speak against WB... in a similar situation
Are you retarded Usopp literally said that before any of the above mentioned
He just isnt willing to put his values over namis life
He just isnt willing to put his values over namis life
Are you retarded Usopp literally said that before any of the above mentioned
He just isnt willing to put his values over namis life
He just isnt willing to put his values over namis life
He knows that nami won't give in that is why he told her that its ok to give in if it means to save her life, but nami's stubbornness just far exceeded even his imagination.
its not about protecting others instead of one's values, he knew that nami won't give in..but the fact that he even considered that.. just meant that he was at his limit... tho luffy would care less about it and care more about him being alive....its just that nami tho defenseless put her life over her captains dream... ussop wasn't wrong with what he did no one can blame him, but you can see a clear difference between them.. one would compromise.. another wouldn't..
he was! sure but you could feel the grim in his statement.. he was ready to compromise his allegiance to luffy even if as a farce...but the fact that he even consider that.. just isn't what a king does
Honestly it's not about if he was right or wrong.. i believe he was right.. but a king would rather offer his own life.. ussop is someone who requires a king to push him to his apex potential... but he isn't one .. kings know their worth.. a problem ussop had in enies lobby..
Honestly it's not about if he was right or wrong.. i believe he was right.. but a king would rather offer his own life.. ussop is someone who requires a king to push him to his apex potential... but he isn't one .. kings know their worth.. a problem ussop had in enies lobby..
I think both Usopp and Sanji have a pretty good chance of unlocking Conqueror's haki but I think it would benefit Usopp a lot more.
Usopp's meant to be the seemingly weak, coward who forces himself to do the right thing when he feels he's truly needed. His whole story is about wanting to become a brave warrior and he already lied about having it so it's pretty likely he'll obtain it. Usopp obtaining haki would act as a sign that he's accomplished, or he's closer to accomplishing, his dream.
I also think Sanji's will is pretty strong in regards to Zeff and upholding all the values Zeff instilled into him. Him obtaining Conqueror's haki would also contrast Sanji with Germa even further by proving that Sanji, for upholding his values regardless of the situation and being willing to die for them, actually has qualities fitting a King, rather than the selfish and thoughtless Germa.
We'll see soon enough. Elbalf seems like a god place for Usopp to unlock his. If Sanji unlocks it, would make sense for it to be by the time his plotline with Germa comes to some sort of conclusion or gets touched upon further.
At the end of the day, I think both might get it and I'd be content even if Sanji didn't show Conqueror's haki. In fact, I'd rather not compare the two and say this one has a better chance since it makes it seem like a competition. They're both characters and I'd much rather look at the implications of Conqueror's haki on both of them.
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Also, Usopp already proved he's willing to die for Luffy, just like plenty of other characters. At Alabasta, he continued fighting against Mr 3 and his female companion, Ms. Something after they mocked Luffy's dream. Him wanting Nami to not say it was just him being hypocritical. He'd gladly die for Luffy, just like Nami and the rest of the crew but he didn't want Nami declaring it as she'd get hurt. Plenty of the crew have declared Luffy will be Pirate King and we've seen most, if not all them, in some way, show they're willing to die for him and Usopp's no different.
Usopp's meant to be the seemingly weak, coward who forces himself to do the right thing when he feels he's truly needed. His whole story is about wanting to become a brave warrior and he already lied about having it so it's pretty likely he'll obtain it. Usopp obtaining haki would act as a sign that he's accomplished, or he's closer to accomplishing, his dream.
I also think Sanji's will is pretty strong in regards to Zeff and upholding all the values Zeff instilled into him. Him obtaining Conqueror's haki would also contrast Sanji with Germa even further by proving that Sanji, for upholding his values regardless of the situation and being willing to die for them, actually has qualities fitting a King, rather than the selfish and thoughtless Germa.
We'll see soon enough. Elbalf seems like a god place for Usopp to unlock his. If Sanji unlocks it, would make sense for it to be by the time his plotline with Germa comes to some sort of conclusion or gets touched upon further.
At the end of the day, I think both might get it and I'd be content even if Sanji didn't show Conqueror's haki. In fact, I'd rather not compare the two and say this one has a better chance since it makes it seem like a competition. They're both characters and I'd much rather look at the implications of Conqueror's haki on both of them.
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Also, Usopp already proved he's willing to die for Luffy, just like plenty of other characters. At Alabasta, he continued fighting against Mr 3 and his female companion, Ms. Something after they mocked Luffy's dream. Him wanting Nami to not say it was just him being hypocritical. He'd gladly die for Luffy, just like Nami and the rest of the crew but he didn't want Nami declaring it as she'd get hurt. Plenty of the crew have declared Luffy will be Pirate King and we've seen most, if not all them, in some way, show they're willing to die for him and Usopp's no different.
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"Usopp will gets CoC because he doesn't put his values over Nami."
Fair.
But when Sanji does this......
Retarded dumbass: "But but that doesn't mean anything, Sanji doesn't have strong will. He can't never get CoC."
Fucking double standard.
Fair.
But when Sanji does this......
Retarded dumbass: "But but that doesn't mean anything, Sanji doesn't have strong will. He can't never get CoC."
Fucking double standard.
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Zoro is already confirmed user
Sanji?:D
is black lightning a sign of CoC haki?
Sanji?:D
is black lightning a sign of CoC haki?
I just realized, people keep blabbering and misrepresenting sanji breaking his leg to Vegro without even considering he was nerfed.... but in theory Oven should be sturdier than Vergo.. and sanji was able to crack his collar bone with a mere kick when oven was still in his peak condition
something Vergo was able to do when sanji was nerfed..
doesn't that just clarify even more that sanji was nerfed in PH and that a peak sanji would dominate vergo?
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Zoro is already confirmed user
Sanji?:D
is black lightning a sign of CoC haki?
Sanji?:D
is black lightning a sign of CoC haki?
The reason why I still think Sanji kicking Oven is a sign of CoC because usually when someone was using CoC, they would commented on it while Sanji was doing it so quick that nobody notices Sanji's CoC. Only Pudding was able to see it because of her third eye.