All the new stuff with kids with katanas, demon wtv and so on, Oda needs more than 25 years to make the same arc over and over and focus on the Tamas and Yamatos instead of the least developed Strawhats, OP is dead and the ones sticking around just want to see how it ends.
If you didn't say Luffy would fight Ben Beckman it would be more believable lol. The only way I could see it happening was if Luffy was hesitant to fight Shanks, and then Zoro fought him instead to solidify the idea that Luffy's crew is a cut above the rest and worthy of being the PK's crew if even their #2 guy can beat the captain of a Yonko crew. I don't see it being a whole crew versus crew thing.
I understand this being laughable and it probably will continue to be laughable unless it actually happens. However, the whole Mihawk/Shanks thing makes me feel like Zoro may have to prove that he is better than both of them, not just Mihawk. If Zoro is only shown to have surpassed Mihawk, there would still be doubt about whether or not he is actually the WSS now. At least in the community's eyes. Oda claiming in the VC that Mihawk is waiting for someone "to surpass even his rival Shanks" is important. It's specifically calling out Shanks as a goalpoast for measuring how close Zoro is to becoming the WSS. In One Piece, surpassing someone strength-wise has mostly been demonstrated by defeating them in 1v1 combat, as indicated by Luffy's statements throughout the series. How would we know that Zoro has surpassed Shanks if he never got to fight him?
That said, it would still be weird. It's kind of the same as ZKK where the narrative purpose makes sense but the perceived execution would be Zoro overshadowing/outshining Luffy which Oda has specifically stated is something he doesn't really want anyone to do
So idk about beating shanks I expect a clash or some kind of acknowledgment between the two that’s it for me anything else would blow my mind lol imagine that’s when zoro splits the sky and not vs mihawk omg
I think in a future arc we will see Zoro defeat Shanks.
I think next arc will be Elbaf and the arc after that will be lodestar. Either The Straw Hats will encounter the red hair pirates next arc or next arc will just be a story arc like Zou and the arc after that- Lodestar will involve the Red Hair Pirates.
We know that Zoro always ends up repeating or maybe even one-upping what Luffy did the previous arc... or at least the previous major arc. Luffy barely defeated a YC1 last arc, and this arc we saw Zoro beat a YC1 decisively. Luffy's first bounty was 30 million and Zoro's first bounty was 60 million. Luffy's second bounty was 100 million and Zoro's second bounty was 120 million. Luffy's 3rd bounty was 300 million and Zoro's was 320 million. Zoro always ends up surpassing Luffy's previous feat. This arc Luffy will barely defeat a Yonko with a lot of help, which is why I think in the next major arc Zoro will beat a Yonko 1v1.
And the Yonko he will beat will be Shanks. Zoro has a lot of reason to fight Shanks. Firstly, Luffy and Shanks are friends and Shanks is a sort of father figure to Luffy so I can't imagine Luffy fighting and beating Shanks. Especially since Luffy will beat both Kaido and Blackbeard. Fighting 3 yonkos back to back is kind of repetitive and I can't see Oda doing that. Luffy has already had his Yonko fight and has sky split and done all that jazz. BB will be difficult for a different reason because of his DF and Luffy having to overcome it. Fighting Shanks after already beating Kaido just won't be that interesting.
Secondly, Shanks was the former rival of Zoro's goal- Mihawk. What better training for a Mihawk fight than his ex-rival ? After beating Shanks Zoro will definitely be ready for beating Mihawk. (Maybe with a fight against Aokiji or Shilliew in between to train his CoO). Zoro wants to be the world's strongest swordsman, therefore he would want to fight and beat a famous and powerful swordsman like Shanks. He has already unlocked AdCoC but a battle with Shanks will allow him to refine it and master it and at some point (maybe near the end of the fight) I can imagine Zoro and Shanks splitting the sky. Luffy has already had his moment with Kaido and now it'll be Zoro's turn to clash with a yonko and split the sky.
How will the fight start ? I see 2 possibilities. Firstly, Shanks and Zoro could just have a friendly sparring session which slowly gets more and more serious and becomes a full-on fight.
The second option is some sort of a davy back fight but more serious where one member of Luffy's crew goes up against a member of Shanks crew. Think a tournament style thing. I could see Usopp fighting and beating his father.
Now the question is who will Luffy fight ? I think the answer is obvious. Benn Beckmann ! We already have a vivre-card entry stating that Ben is almost as strong as Shanks. I think he'll be able to give Luffy a challenging and entertaining fight. Kaido is a bit of a brick and brute so I see Luffy beating him in a slugfest with Boundman. Beckmann, though not as strong as Kaido is probably a more intelligent, strategic type of fighter (he was called the most intelligent in East Blue after all). I think he'll be a high-speed gunslinger type character (though maybe less purely speed-focused than Roo who Sanji will fight and more IQ-based but not as IQ-based as Yasopp) I think Luffy will beat him in a high-speed, high-skill, long-ranged CoO-heavy fight using Snakeman.
Which will leave the final fight between two swordsmen. Mihawk's old and new rivals. I think Zoro will be weaker than Shanks at the beginning of the fight but grow and break his limits during the fight and master AdCoC (splitting the sky) and ultimately win.
I don't think he'll kill Shanks or anything but he'll win the duel somehow. Maybe he'll disarm Shanks or break his sword or just have Shanks admit defeat. (I can see it being very similar to Luffy vs Katakuri and in the end Shanks will realise that he is the man who will beat Mihawk and become the new WSS and fall down first).
This could also set the stage for Blackbeard killing Shanks or something like some other theories have predicted as Shanks and his crew will probably be injured and BB, ever the dirty fighter will use this chance. Though this could also not happen.
We've seen almost no fights between Zoro and another swordsman in the series so we really have to get one more before the Mihawk fight. One of the few such fights was against Ryuma and that happened in Thriller Bark, the next major arc after Enies Lobby and Wano seems to be the Enies Lobby of the Post-TS.
Zoro vs Shanks will be an awesome fight and makes so much sense on so many levels.
Ok, I know it will be an awesome bout if it happens, but, unless Shiryu somehow surpass Shanks, Zoro vs Shiryu will be underwhelming as hell to the point where an acceptable replacement during the Raftel fight would be Zoro vs Aokiji, whereas we don't even know if Aokiji is that committed to BB's crew.
Besides, I thought Zoro is gonna sit an arc or two out prior to BB's due to mink drug after ZKK?
- if Zoro beat Shanks solo, Luffy will never fight a weaker enemy such as Shanks' underling. So i think if it does happen, Luffy will beat BB solo in the same arc. Just like how Zoro beat King and Luffy beat Kaidou.
This is the only way Zoro vs Shanks can happen, I agree, and that means we got another Zoro vs Apoo/Hawkins/Killer in Zoro vs Shiryu where Zoro mid-diffs or outright destroys Shiryu after his hax is found out before moving on to vs Shanks (only because there is no way Zoro can beat Shanks solo if Zoro is too heavily injured). Which means the PK title match would be decided in a three-way battle royals ala the one we saw in Skypiea (interestingly an arc where Zoro beat 2 opponents in Braham and Ohm, too).
Coincidentally, this is also the scenario where I could see BB killing Shanks via a quake punch after Zoro beats Shanks decisively, because every scenario of BB killing Shanks that I have ever seen made it look like BB could escape Shanks with little damage and that would fuck up powerscaling permanently, whereas killing a Shanks beaten by Zoro prevents any damage toward powerscaling.
And if Zoro gains FS in his short bout with Shiryu before going to Shanks, that means his win against Shanks is believable since that means all 3 Adv Haki vs all 3 Adv Haki.
I think in a future arc we will see Zoro defeat Shanks.
I think next arc will be Elbaf and the arc after that will be lodestar. Either The Straw Hats will encounter the red hair pirates next arc or next arc will just be a story arc like Zou and the arc after that- Lodestar will involve the Red Hair Pirates.
We know that Zoro always ends up repeating or maybe even one-upping what Luffy did the previous arc... or at least the previous major arc. Luffy barely defeated a YC1 last arc, and this arc we saw Zoro beat a YC1 decisively. Luffy's first bounty was 30 million and Zoro's first bounty was 60 million. Luffy's second bounty was 100 million and Zoro's second bounty was 120 million. Luffy's 3rd bounty was 300 million and Zoro's was 320 million. Zoro always ends up surpassing Luffy's previous feat. This arc Luffy will barely defeat a Yonko with a lot of help, which is why I think in the next major arc Zoro will beat a Yonko 1v1.
And the Yonko he will beat will be Shanks. Zoro has a lot of reason to fight Shanks. Firstly, Luffy and Shanks are friends and Shanks is a sort of father figure to Luffy so I can't imagine Luffy fighting and beating Shanks. Especially since Luffy will beat both Kaido and Blackbeard. Fighting 3 yonkos back to back is kind of repetitive and I can't see Oda doing that. Luffy has already had his Yonko fight and has sky split and done all that jazz. BB will be difficult for a different reason because of his DF and Luffy having to overcome it. Fighting Shanks after already beating Kaido just won't be that interesting.
Secondly, Shanks was the former rival of Zoro's goal- Mihawk. What better training for a Mihawk fight than his ex-rival ? After beating Shanks Zoro will definitely be ready for beating Mihawk. (Maybe with a fight against Aokiji or Shilliew in between to train his CoO). Zoro wants to be the world's strongest swordsman, therefore he would want to fight and beat a famous and powerful swordsman like Shanks. He has already unlocked AdCoC but a battle with Shanks will allow him to refine it and master it and at some point (maybe near the end of the fight) I can imagine Zoro and Shanks splitting the sky. Luffy has already had his moment with Kaido and now it'll be Zoro's turn to clash with a yonko and split the sky.
How will the fight start ? I see 2 possibilities. Firstly, Shanks and Zoro could just have a friendly sparring session which slowly gets more and more serious and becomes a full-on fight.
The second option is some sort of a davy back fight but more serious where one member of Luffy's crew goes up against a member of Shanks crew. Think a tournament style thing. I could see Usopp fighting and beating his father.
Now the question is who will Luffy fight ? I think the answer is obvious. Benn Beckmann ! We already have a vivre-card entry stating that Ben is almost as strong as Shanks. I think he'll be able to give Luffy a challenging and entertaining fight. Kaido is a bit of a brick and brute so I see Luffy beating him in a slugfest with Boundman. Beckmann, though not as strong as Kaido is probably a more intelligent, strategic type of fighter (he was called the most intelligent in East Blue after all). I think he'll be a high-speed gunslinger type character (though maybe less purely speed-focused than Roo who Sanji will fight and more IQ-based but not as IQ-based as Yasopp) I think Luffy will beat him in a high-speed, high-skill, long-ranged CoO-heavy fight using Snakeman.
Which will leave the final fight between two swordsmen. Mihawk's old and new rivals. I think Zoro will be weaker than Shanks at the beginning of the fight but grow and break his limits during the fight and master AdCoC (splitting the sky) and ultimately win.
I don't think he'll kill Shanks or anything but he'll win the duel somehow. Maybe he'll disarm Shanks or break his sword or just have Shanks admit defeat. (I can see it being very similar to Luffy vs Katakuri and in the end Shanks will realise that he is the man who will beat Mihawk and become the new WSS and fall down first).
This could also set the stage for Blackbeard killing Shanks or something like some other theories have predicted as Shanks and his crew will probably be injured and BB, ever the dirty fighter will use this chance. Though this could also not happen.
We've seen almost no fights between Zoro and another swordsman in the series so we really have to get one more before the Mihawk fight. One of the few such fights was against Ryuma and that happened in Thriller Bark, the next major arc after Enies Lobby and Wano seems to be the Enies Lobby of the Post-TS.
Zoro vs Shanks will be an awesome fight and makes so much sense on so many levels.
Very much would like to see that, but I think it kind of throws off the running theme of one piece. And since Luffy wants to defeat all 4 Yonko himself, I cannot see a scenario where Zoro will have the opportunity to seriously fight shanks
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