Speculations Why Zoro's only opponent in this arc is Kaido and why he is in the same situation as Luffy.

Who will Zoro fight

  • Round 2 Kaido + ZKK

    Votes: 69 61.6%

  • King

    Votes: 32 28.6%

  • Queen

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • He is done for the rest of the arc

    Votes: 10 8.9%
  • Total voters
    112
ErionRoronoa

ErionRoronoa

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#1
#1
Please read all of it (with an open mind for Sanji fans and Zoro haters) and I'm sure you'll be convinced,


As I said before in the spoiler thread, Zoro is in the same situation as Luffy, both are defeated and need a lot of time to recover. It's going to take a lot of chapters for both of them to get back on their feet.

- It takes a lot of chapters for Zoro to recover and get back on his feet again.
- It also takes a lot of chapters for Luffy to recover and reach Onigashima again.

Perfect timing for both of them to be ready against Kaido at the same time. IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE.



Queen vs Zoro debunked:

Right now Zoro can't fight or clash with anyone, Sanji is carrying him and heading to the live floor. And in chapter 1014, when found out that Chopper has less than 10 minutes left...someone has to intervene and Sanji is the best candidate for it. I don't want to talk about the heavy foreshadowing and connection between Sanji and Queen, these two are bound to fight each other.

- Sanji will give Zoro to Chopper and fight Queen.


Zoro vs King should not happen:

- King is Kaido's top commander and he's highly anticipated. It very difficult for me to think that he's going to lose to a guy who is not fighting at his full physical capacity. It's like Luffy fighting Queen or King after defeating Katakuri. If Zoro ends up fighting him then Zoro>> Luffy, which is impossible.

- Also, Marco disrespect by the OP community. Marco is WB's 1st division commander and the man who fought BB and his crew, Oda would never disrespect him like some fools here think and make him lose his first 1 vs 1 fight in the series, cmon. Marco should at least fight and defeat King.



That is to say, I think Zoro and Luffy gonna join hands and defeat Kaido, similar to Law and Kid against Big Mom.


- Law and Kid vs Big Mom:
- Law heavily damages Big Mom then falls.
- Kid tries to finish the job but Big mom's pirates arrive and escort Big Mom.

- Luffy and Zoro against Kaido:

- Zoro heavily damages Kaido.
- Kaido recognizes Zoro's strength then both fall to the ground.
- Kaido stands again and 1vs 1 Luffy.
- Luffy defeats him but doesn't kill him.
- Zoro stands again and cuts his head.
 
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HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#7
#7
Cinera said:
I don't want a KIng fight per se, but I think Zoro vs King is possible, and I believe in ZKK regardless.
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With chopper dropping in 10 mins that's one person who won't heal zoro in the live floor sanji can only step in for one of chopper or Marco (with chopper being far more likely) which leaves no one to step in to king if Marco leaves to heal zoro (not that he can with what he's shown) this added to the anime showing tokis dead which means it's more likely to be hiyori. All in all good developments for us.
 
S

Shepherd

#8
#8
ErionRoronoa said:
Kaido has to die and someone needs to do it.
Zoro is the only one who is capable of killing him.
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No Kaido doesn't have to die, that would be giving him what he wants. It would be far more excruciating for Kaido for him to be left alive as Luffy surpasses him tenfold throughout the course of the series like he does with every villain, rather than simply killing them.
 
ErionRoronoa

ErionRoronoa

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#9
#9
Shepherd said:
No Kaido doesn't have to die, that would be giving him what he wants. It would be far more excruciating for Kaido for him to be left alive as Luffy surpasses him tenfold throughout the course of the series like he does with every villain, rather than simply killing them.
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It's totally different with Kaido, he has to die. He's not the type of character you can break after you defeat. He has to die at the end of this arc.
Also, Kaido will always be a threat to Wano and Luffy if he survives, he is just too OP and persistent. Have you even read the latest chapter? Kaido is not Crocodile.
 
Master OF Haki

Master OF Haki

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#10
#10
ErionRoronoa said:
Please read all of it (with an open mind for Sanji fans and Zoro haters) and I'm sure you'll be convinced,


As I said before in the spoiler thread, Zoro is in the same situation as Luffy, both are defeated and need a lot of time to recover. It's going to take a lot of chapters for both of them to get back on their feet.

- It takes a lot of chapters for Zoro to recover and get back on his feet again.
- It also takes a lot of chapters for Luffy to recover and reach Onigashima again.

Perfect timing for both of them to be ready against Kaido at the same time. IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE.



Queen vs Zoro debunked:

Right now Zoro can't fight or clash with anyone, Sanji is carrying him and heading to the live floor. And in chapter 1014, when found out that Chopper has less than 10 minutes left...someone has to intervene and Sanji is the best candidate for it. I don't want to talk about the heavy foreshadowing and connection between Sanji and Queen, these two are bound to fight each other.

- Sanji will give Zoro to Chopper and fight Queen.


Zoro vs King should not happen:

- King is Kaido's top commander and he's highly anticipated. It very difficult for me to think that he's going to lose to a guy who is not fighting at his full physical capacity. It's like Luffy fighting Queen or King after defeating Katakuri. If Zoro ends up fighting him then Zoro>> Luffy, which is impossible.

- Also, Marco disrespect by the OP community. Marco is WB's 1st division commander and the man who fought BB and his crew, Oda would never disrespect him like some fools here think and make him lose his first 1 vs 1 fight in the series, cmon. Marco should at least fight and defeat King.



That is to say, I think Zoro and Luffy gonna join hands and defeat Kaido, similar to Law and Kid against Big Mom.


- Law and Kid vs Big Mom:
- Law heavily damages Big Mom then falls.
- Kid tries to finish the job but Big mom's pirates arrive and escort Big Mom.

- Luffy and Zoro against Kaido:

- Zoro heavily damages Kaido.
- Kaido recognizes Zoro's strength then both fall to the ground.
- Kaido stands again and 1vs 1 Luffy.
- Luffy defeats him but doesn't kill him.
- Zoro stands again and cuts his head.
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Your wet fantasy dismisses one big fucking thing: who the fuck is going to stall Kaido before they recover???
In your wet fantasy all strong characters are fighting against someone else but not Kaido.
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ErionRoronoa said:
Kaido has to die and someone needs to do it.
Zoro is the only one who is capable of killing him.
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Blackbeard.
 
WesMidnight

WesMidnight

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#14
#14
Luffy is the one trying to become pirate king, not Zoro.
How many times does Oda have to make this clear to you, Luffy said he will beat Kaido 1vs1.
Beating Kaido 2vs1 is not in line with Luffy's goals for this arc, to overcome the WSC and put Wano on his back, to become the front runner for PK, and to fulfil the prophecy 20 years waiting for him to come.
Losing three times against Kaido 1vs1 and then beating him with help is not overcoming Kaido.
 
adyfbi

adyfbi

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#15
#15
My prediction is kidd is going to be defeated in next couple of chapters, marking end of act 3.

Final battle will be 1 vs 3 rematch while law and others hold back big mam.

Kaido vs Luffy, Zoro, Kidd

The battle of the conquerors (focusing on Advanced COC)
 
Finalbeta

Finalbeta

Law Nerd
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#17
#17
Kidd vs Big Mom alongside Law will probably keep on going until Kaido will be defeated at least. Then Big Mom might surrender, less likely be defeated and if yes it should be Luffy presumably, for long standing portrayal matters.

More probably Luffy and Yamato to defeat Kaido or Zoro if they will fail miserably. ZKK almost set in stone independently from which scenario coming into Play.
 
Dr_Professor83

Dr_Professor83

False Idol
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#18
#18
I still expect Zoro to fight King. The fact Oda said “1v1 always count on Kaido” has me strongly believing Luffy is going to 1v1 Kaido in the end. Of course it won’t be a true 1v1 because other characters have and will continue to get their shots in to make it believable, but I think narratively it is all pointing to Luffy finishing him off 1v1.

I suspect Sanji is going to briefly get his big moment by replicating Marco’s feat of holding off King & Queen for a short time so that Marco can heal up Zoro. I don’t think Zoro beating King after Marco juices him up puts him over Luffy. But it does let Luffy get his 1v1 vs Kaido and lets Zoro accomplish something that muddies the water on his relative strength to Luffy which Oda seems to like. Really it works perfectly. It lets Sanji fans argue Sanji as relative to Zoro because they both beat a commander and it lets Zoro fans argue Zoro as relative to Luffy because he beat a commander after pulling off such insane feats on the rooftop.
 
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