General & Others Will Luffy actually beat 4 emperors and 3 admirals
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Tbf big mom returning doesn’t mean she’s necessarily going to be handled well even tho I would hope so lol
Even ignoring luffy and the giants I think she needs to learn what really happened they day mother Carmel “disappeared” along with who she really was
Plus her returning could lead to an awesome Usopp moment. Something where he has to stand up for the giants against big mom and be able to survive soul pocus
Also not as important but seeing her crew originally looked like before all the kids would be cool
Also x2 big mom lowkey might end up getting redeemed. As fucked up as she is she definitely has lots of redeeming qualities and “good dreams”. She just 100% goes at them in the worst ways
You had to exclude Fuji and GB from your list even though he made that statement to Fuji because it doesnt make sense for Luffy to be fed all these top tiers.
The way I see it, he'll fight both Admirals and Emperors, the question is of who ? He's already defeated Kaido, he's fighting Kizaru right now in Egghead, only Akainu and BB are ones he'll have to fight in the future and they will be stronger than the previous admiral/emperor.
Maybe Shanks too, but thats just a maybe.
The way I see it, he'll fight both Admirals and Emperors, the question is of who ? He's already defeated Kaido, he's fighting Kizaru right now in Egghead, only Akainu and BB are ones he'll have to fight in the future and they will be stronger than the previous admiral/emperor.
Maybe Shanks too, but thats just a maybe.
I think the og 3 admirals are more important and relevant to luffy’s journey. Plus not to power scale too much they’re the 3 strongest too
Like if he beats the first 3 it should be good enough imo
Based on the worlds of luffy, chinjao, and oda about bullet in the stampede volume I think he might have too
Beat the 4 strongest emperors and 3 strongest admirals
Like if he beats the first 3 it should be good enough imo
Based on the worlds of luffy, chinjao, and oda about bullet in the stampede volume I think he might have too
Beat the 4 strongest emperors and 3 strongest admirals
One Piece will never end if that would be the case.
Luffy beat Kaido who is stronger than Big Meme, fighting her again would be redundant when she already got beat by Law & Kid (one of whom got one shot by Shanks, making this fight even more irrelevant).
Thats actually the best word to describe this idea, redundant. It would just be stretching the story to beat characters whenever Luffy goes up against them until we end the manga. That does not fit the "battle royale" Oda wants the final saga to be.
Luffy beat Kaido who is stronger than Big Meme, fighting her again would be redundant when she already got beat by Law & Kid (one of whom got one shot by Shanks, making this fight even more irrelevant).
Thats actually the best word to describe this idea, redundant. It would just be stretching the story to beat characters whenever Luffy goes up against them until we end the manga. That does not fit the "battle royale" Oda wants the final saga to be.
Not if more than 1 can go down in an arc
Not everything is about power scaling tho
It’s more so about luffy beating 4 emperors being something he himself wants to achieve. Along with big mom’s story still having loose ends and potential to return. It doesn’t really matter if luffy extreme diffs or neg diffs her tbh
If luffy is going to beat kaido, kizaru, Blackbeard, akainu, and shanks already leaving some time for big mom and kuzan isn’t crazy
We don’t even know who the main antagonist of elbaf will be
Not everything is about power scaling tho
It’s more so about luffy beating 4 emperors being something he himself wants to achieve. Along with big mom’s story still having loose ends and potential to return. It doesn’t really matter if luffy extreme diffs or neg diffs her tbh
If luffy is going to beat kaido, kizaru, Blackbeard, akainu, and shanks already leaving some time for big mom and kuzan isn’t crazy
We don’t even know who the main antagonist of elbaf will be
Thats still going to require an unnecessary amount of panel time just so Luffy can defeat a Yonko already defeated lol.
I would have agreed here if she never showed up to Wano, but look how much Wano itself spent on Big Mom, it would have been easily 20-30 chapters shorter without her, and I argue it was worth the length just to remove her from the plot at that point.
Kuzan on the other hand has the benefit of still being relevant and not dealt with.
I would have agreed here if she never showed up to Wano, but look how much Wano itself spent on Big Mom, it would have been easily 20-30 chapters shorter without her, and I argue it was worth the length just to remove her from the plot at that point.
Kuzan on the other hand has the benefit of still being relevant and not dealt with.
Tbf it’s oda lol. Also each one of her defeats has a big asterisk on it
Honestly I personally would've rather had her never gone to wano either especially seeing how oda did her. At the same time I think there’s too much loose ends for her not to return for better or worse
Like I said I don’t even know if her return will be handled well. My hopes ain’t that high either but eh it’s still something that may happen
Imo a decent situation would be them both being taken down in elbaf. Both have ties to giants in elbaf, Luffy, and now each other due to Kuzan going to wci
They don’t need whole arcs dedicated to themselves plus luffy already beat a stronger emperor and is about to beat a stronger admiral. So him beating 2 weaker ones in a single arc doesn’t sound too bad
Honestly I personally would've rather had her never gone to wano either especially seeing how oda did her. At the same time I think there’s too much loose ends for her not to return for better or worse
Like I said I don’t even know if her return will be handled well. My hopes ain’t that high either but eh it’s still something that may happen
Imo a decent situation would be them both being taken down in elbaf. Both have ties to giants in elbaf, Luffy, and now each other due to Kuzan going to wci
They don’t need whole arcs dedicated to themselves plus luffy already beat a stronger emperor and is about to beat a stronger admiral. So him beating 2 weaker ones in a single arc doesn’t sound too bad
He already fought Kaido
And BM was fought
Your problem is that you don't wanna accept what is before you
Oda already threw away BM for kid and law
There won't be any small fight between her and Luffy again.
Why have her beaten again ? And easily this time?
Luffy doesn't need to prove he's above Shanks
He's done already something Shanks can't do : beat kaido (even with help)
BM not being done =/= being Luffy's main serious fight again
Bro why do you want BM to fight and lose to Luffy again?
What the point?
He's not going to beat all Yonko
He didn't beat every YC NOR WARLORDS, he won't beat every Yonko too
And BM was fought
Your problem is that you don't wanna accept what is before you
Oda already threw away BM for kid and law
There won't be any small fight between her and Luffy again.
Why have her beaten again ? And easily this time?
Luffy doesn't need to prove he's above Shanks
He's done already something Shanks can't do : beat kaido (even with help)
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Big mom isn’t done with for better or worse
While like most I agree that oda’s handling of Linlin has honestly been pretty unfortunate to say the least I don’t think she’s done. Whether he handles her return well or not idk but I really hope it’s better lol
While like most I agree that oda’s handling of Linlin has honestly been pretty unfortunate to say the least I don’t think she’s done. Whether he handles her return well or not idk but I really hope it’s better lol
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Bro why do you want BM to fight and lose to Luffy again?
What the point?
He's not going to beat all Yonko
He didn't beat every YC NOR WARLORDS, he won't beat every Yonko too
Because them fighting isn’t about power scaling and I personally don’t really care what diff it is
It’s about big mom’s role in the story not being over and luffy wanting to beat 4 emperors
Yeah even if she does return and even if she dies fight Luffy that doesn’t mean most the arc will be dedicated to her
The warlords role in the story are not the same as the emperors
Luffy plans on beating all 4 emperors and plans on beating big mom after kaido and I think it’s going to happen
It’s about big mom’s role in the story not being over and luffy wanting to beat 4 emperors
Yeah even if she does return and even if she dies fight Luffy that doesn’t mean most the arc will be dedicated to her
The warlords role in the story are not the same as the emperors
Luffy plans on beating all 4 emperors and plans on beating big mom after kaido and I think it’s going to happen
Thats why he got negged by one in his 2nd strongest form and needed his full power to keep up with his 20%?
Luffy lucky af that Kizaru is nerfed and emotionally restricted, no way you believe after this Arc that an all out Kizaru using his awakening and what not would not be at least an extreme diff fight for Luffy... At least, cause most likely Kizaru would destroy him.
Luffy lucky af that Kizaru is nerfed and emotionally restricted, no way you believe after this Arc that an all out Kizaru using his awakening and what not would not be at least an extreme diff fight for Luffy... At least, cause most likely Kizaru would destroy him.
Nope, if you think about it he already failed, technically. Luffy beat Kaido but he didn't beat BM, Law and Kidd did that for him and so now we will never have a Luffy vs BM fight where he wins because he already surpassed BM by beating Kaido. For the same reason almost for sure he will not beat every admiral, Kizaru, maybe Akainu and that is it. I don't see Luffy taking down neither Fuji or Aokiji (if he still counts as an admiral).
