Worstgen Crew Randomizer Tournament: Round 4 of 16. Charlie vs Yoho

Who wins?


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RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#22
Yeah thats funny but imo it wont do much against the other team lmao.

And as I said he will slowly deteriorate and his Haki isnt even maxed out so people like Fuji or BB can beat him.

The strongest in Charlies team is Big Mom.
Team 2 will have way better mobility : with Doffy DF able to fly, Wrap and Diamanté that can float / uses tricks

But Team 1 has higher firepower

Ray with haki > BB with haki

and BM can still do ikkokus while Fuji won’t be able to use gravito blade anymore

and WB with mochi powers hits harder than Sengoku with Doffy powers
 
#23
Ray with haki > BB with haki
Based on? They have the same haki proficency and Blackbeard is younger.

and BM can still do ikkokus while Fuji won’t be able to use gravito blade anymore
Just means hed rely on sword skills so flying slashes and such.

and WB with mochi powers hits harder than Sengoku with Doffy powers
Not really, Mochi is more versatile whereas the strings have more cutting power. Doffy could cut buildings for example.
 

EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
#24
so wait is BB supposed to now be a haxed version of law where he can teleport everything around?

awakened kinemon fruit sound fun, maybe can digsuise everyone so good that they appear as the enemies, making them fight each other or smth
 
#25
so wait is BB supposed to now be a haxed version of law where he can teleport everything around?

awakened kinemon fruit sound fun, maybe can digsuise everyone so good that they appear as the enemies, making them fight each other or smth
I didnt think about the teleport fruit being awakened, wonder what that does lmao.

Also BM being an awakened human fruit would have super genius levels of intellect.
 

EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
#26
I didnt think about the teleport fruit being awakened, wonder what that does lmao.

Also BM being an awakened human fruit would have super genius levels of intellect.
gg then, if BM can remove her one sole weakness, the lack of IQ, then it shud be a sweep. BM's team rekt

idk if she gets access to rumble balls or can transform on demand. she shud if awakened. which makes her extra tankier and they'd probably never have the damage to kill her
 
#27
gg then, if BM can remove her one sole weakness, the lack of IQ, then it shud be a sweep. BM's team rekt

idk if she gets access to rumble balls or can transform on demand. she shud if awakened. which makes her extra tankier and they'd probably never have the damage to kill her
Oda said that if a human eats the human fruit they just become super smart lmao. No transformation.

Imo the teams are balanced, BM is strong but WB has a disease so on a timer. Fuji has maxed out haki and so does BB so they should both do well.

BB vs Ray I give to BB due to being younger and in his prime.
Fuji vs BM I give to BM after a tough fight.
WB vs Sengoku Idk tbh.
We'll jump her big ass after dealing with the other two
This can work especially given that WB may go down first due to his health liberatign whoever is fighting him to jump and help the others.
 

EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
#28
Oda said that if a human eats the human fruit they just become super smart lmao. No transformation.

Imo the teams are balanced, BM is strong but WB has a disease so on a timer. Fuji has maxed out haki and so does BB so they should both do well.

BB vs Ray I give to BB due to being younger and in his prime.
Fuji vs BM I give to BM after a tough fight.
WB vs Sengoku Idk tbh.
btw does tier 5 mean u also automatically become a good fighter? like if u have vivi tier 5 haki, can she beat bigmom on tier 1?
 
#29
btw does tier 5 mean u also automatically become a good fighter? like if u have vivi tier 5 haki, can she beat bigmom on tier 1?
Vivi would still have bad base stats, with tier 5 haki she should be able to hurt BM but idk who wins lmao.

Good thing is all the fighters here have good base stats + their Haki.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#30
Based on? They have the same haki proficency and Blackbeard is younger.


Just means hed rely on sword skills so flying slashes and such.


Not really, Mochi is more versatile whereas the strings have more cutting power. Doffy could cut buildings for example.
Ray is a better fighter and more experienced using only haki and sword to fight. Him having a DF (useless here) is just a bonus and not a nerf. Here BB is quite nerfed from his Yonko self, he isn’t known to have huge skills with either pistols or swords and he doesn’t have his two Uber strong DF

Old Ray vs Yonko Teach with DF I bet on old Ray


Just means hed rely on sword skills so flying slashes and such.
Yeah but BM has an established fighting style with sword without DF and we know how powerful it is. While Fuji has none. Fuji fighting style with sword is linked with his DF anytime we are seeing him. So advantage BM here.


Not really, Mochi is more versatile whereas the strings have more cutting power. Doffy could cut buildings for example.
Huge mochi fists, piercing mochi, numerous arms mochi fists etc. The output will be higher with the mochi DF.
 
#31
Ray is a better fighter and more experienced using only haki and sword to fight. Him having a DF (useless here) is just a bonus and not a nerf. Here BB is quite nerfed from his Yonko self, he isn’t known to have huge skills with either pistols or swords and he doesn’t have his two Uber strong DF
You forget that BB managed to scar Shanks with a weapon. He at the very least would be proficient at that weapon, I think its named Claw or something. Regardless his stats and higher endurance/durablity should carry him against Rays old age.

Old Ray vs Yonko Teach with DF I bet on old Ray
Canonically Ray admitted inferiority towards Yonko Teach with his fruits, This teach has better haki but not his fruits. Id say its equals out a bit.


Yeah but BM has an established fighting style with sword without DF and we know how powerful it is. While Fuji has none. Fuji fighting style with sword is linked with his DF anytime we are seeing him. So advantage BM here.
We have seen Fuji fighting with his sword and blocking attacks from Luffy, he is also qualified as a blind swordsman. Based on a guy who was extremely proficient with his sword. He also only recently got his fruit, meaning he had to rely on his sword skills alone before hand. And he was deemed powerful enough without a fruit to ascend to the rank of Admiral. So BM doesnt have the advantage in swordsmanship id actually give it to Fuji, but she has more brute strenght if you will.


Huge mochi fists, piercing mochi, numerous arms mochi fists etc. The output will be higher with the mochi DF.
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Output maybe but Id give lethality to Doffys fruit. If Sengoku manages to pierce WB its going to accelerate his demise as per canon. And I dont see why Sengoku couldnt.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#32
When ?


Based on a guy who was extremely proficient with his sword. He also only recently got his fruit, meaning he had to rely on his sword skills alone before hand. And he was deemed powerful enough without a fruit to ascend to the rank of Admiral. So BM doesnt have the advantage in swordsmanship id actually give it to Fuji, but she has more brute strenght if you will.
Fuji is obvioulsys super strong with his sword. He had admiral potential with sword only. Obviously he has some huge skills with sword.

But we have seen none of it. Fuji each time he is clashing with someone with his sword he is using his DF.

Admiral Fuji the one we are seeing now with his overall level is using his Uber strong DF to fight each time.

While BM is a juggernaut even without homies and she is using a fighting sword style on screen without her DF, she can use elbaf spear, Hakai etc. Coupled with BM insane physical, in a direct clash i favor BM here to be the less nerf of the two.

And with enlightment and brain eureka BM will be even more skilled as a fighter.

And Bm should be a nightmare to put down too


Output maybe but Id give lethality to Doffys fruit. If Sengoku manages to pierce WB its going to accelerate his demise as per canon. And I dont see why Sengoku couldnt.
I agree that WB can have problems with his health, but the mochi DF logia like powers with FS can make WB avoid many hits and being hit a lot less then if he was « tengible »


You forget that BB managed to scar Shanks with a weapon. He at the very least would be proficient at that weapon, I think its named Claw or something. Regardless his stats and higher endurance/durablity should carry him against Rays old age.
I remember that well. But BB is a tricky bitch. No one knows how BB managed to hurt Shanks.

Onviously Bb is strong and can fight with his claw. But it should be nowhere near Ray proficiency with his sword and CQC skills.
Ray all bread and butter is fighting like that. He became a Yonko like threat fighting like that.

While BB became a top tiers with the two strongest DF out there.
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We have seen Fuji fighting with his sword and blocking attacks from Nika,
Ah you meant luffy lol ? Yeah he blocked a G3 hit from DR luffy but it’s nowhere near as strong as a BM hit
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lol didn’t see the name change
TAC…..
 
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#35
I feel people greatly underestimate what a top tier with perfect mastery of haki and Warp Warp could do here. Enemies better watch out for cheapshot while they're busy with their opponent.
Well Law couldnt move BM and Kaido because their haki was too strong, not sure BB can move them around. Maybe he could move Whitebeard since he has less Haki mastery.

Also BM isnt going to be a dumbass with that fruit. But WB is a weak link since he will deteriorate.

Ray is also old so he will have stamina issues.
 
#36
Well Law couldnt move BM and Kaido because their haki was too strong, not sure BB can move them around. Maybe he could move Whitebeard since he has less Haki mastery.

Also BM isnt going to be a dumbass with that fruit. But WB is a weak link since he will deteriorate.

Ray is also old so he will have stamina issues.
Sure thing, but BB can move himself. These match-ups require a lot of imagination and in my mind with tier 5 mastery of the fruit and awakened, someone as cunning and sneaky as BB being able to spam teleport all around the battlefield with little stamina issue is dangerous.
Like I can picture Old Ray and Issho going at it, Ray would have to fully focus on haki equalized Issho considering how his clash against a Kizaru (who should be inferior as a swordsman to Fujitora) went. Blackbeard would 100% punch the back of his head with a devastating ACOC punch.

I think the problem boils down to team 1 having two top tiers past their prime. Maybe BM with high IQ could save it but I'm not sure.
 
#37
Sure thing, but BB can move himself. These match-ups require a lot of imagination and in my mind with tier 5 mastery of the fruit and awakened, someone as cunning and sneaky as BB being able to spam teleport all around the battlefield with little stamina issue is dangerous.
That is true but being underwater in the plaza is kind of limiting dont you think?
Like I can picture Old Ray and Issho going at it, Ray would have to fully focus on haki equalized Issho considering how his clash against a Kizaru (who should be inferior as a swordsman to Fujitora) went. Blackbeard would 100% punch the back of his head with a devastating ACOC punch.
Yeah I can see this being an issue but keep in mind future sight should help against this kind of thing. Atleast not make it as easy.

I think the problem boils down to team 1 having two top tiers past their prime.

Maybe BM with high IQ could save it but I'm not sure.
Honestly Big Mom should identify teach as the biggest threat with his teleport and go after him first. WB could help lock him down with Mochi as well.

Imo nobody would beat BM 1vs1 but she does has the issue of having WB with his disease and Im not sure how long ray can last against Fuji. I mean Im sure he can fight for a while, maybe a few days but Fuji should out endurance him.

Which is why I think the key for victory for team 1 is taking out Blackbeard first.
That is true but being underwater in the plaza is kind of limiting dont you think?
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This is actually highly limiting.

WB can create a hardened mochi dome to limit the angles from which Teach can attack. They could also fight near the edge of the water so that teach cant TP behind them,etc.
 
#38
That is true but being underwater in the plaza is kind of limiting dont you think?
Gotta be honest, I didn't even think about the location here lol
Yeah I can see this being an issue but keep in mind future sight should help against this kind of thing. Atleast not make it as easy.
Won't be easy, but FS is faillible especially if your full attention is taken on something already.
Imo nobody would beat BM 1vs1 but she does has the issue of having WB with his disease and Im not sure how long ray can last against Fuji. I mean Im sure he can fight for a while, maybe a few days but Fuji should out endurance him.
I agree
Honestly Big Mom should identify teach as the biggest threat with his teleport and go after him first. WB could help lock him down with Mochi as well.

Which is why I think the key for victory for team 1 is taking out Blackbeard first.
For team 1 to win they do have to identify Blackbeard as the main threat as soon the battle starts. If not I see him seriously injuring either WB or Ray quickly in the battle. Another top tier that can spam teleport is hell for aging top tiers who despite still being powerful, have worse reflex than they used to, even if COO kind of make up for it.
 
#39
Gotta be honest, I didn't even think about the location here lol

Won't be easy, but FS is faillible especially if your full attention is taken on something already.

I agree

For team 1 to win they do have to identify Blackbeard as the main threat as soon the battle starts. If not I see him seriously injuring either WB or Ray quickly in the battle. Another top tier that can spam teleport is hell for aging top tiers who despite still being powerful, have worse reflex than they used to, even if COO kind of make up for it.
I actually thought of something, WB can create domes of Mochi to prevent BB from coming from certain angles. They could also fight with their backs near the edge of the water so that BB cant teleport behind them at the risk of drowning.
 
#40
Depends on ages of some characters but I will go with Team 1, Ray and Meme with Tier 5 haki ia too OP and that Meme has Choppers fruit which makes her a genius instead of what she was in Wano. Fatty is a clumsy fighter. All Tier 5 guys have shitty fruits tbh with maybe BB having a better one, we are still unsure of its capabilities.

Ray = BM => BB => Fuji > WB => Sengoku so I would say Team 1 wins ext diff.
 
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