gg then, if BM can remove her one sole weakness, the lack of IQ, then it shud be a sweep. BM's team rekt
idk if she gets access to rumble balls or can transform on demand. she shud if awakened. which makes her extra tankier and they'd probably never have the damage to kill her
gg then, if BM can remove her one sole weakness, the lack of IQ, then it shud be a sweep. BM's team rekt
idk if she gets access to rumble balls or can transform on demand. she shud if awakened. which makes her extra tankier and they'd probably never have the damage to kill her
Ray is a better fighter and more experienced using only haki and sword to fight. Him having a DF (useless here) is just a bonus and not a nerf. Here BB is quite nerfed from his Yonko self, he isn’t known to have huge skills with either pistols or swords and he doesn’t have his two Uber strong DF
Yeah but BM has an established fighting style with sword without DF and we know how powerful it is. While Fuji has none. Fuji fighting style with sword is linked with his DF anytime we are seeing him. So advantage BM here.
Ray is a better fighter and more experienced using only haki and sword to fight. Him having a DF (useless here) is just a bonus and not a nerf. Here BB is quite nerfed from his Yonko self, he isn’t known to have huge skills with either pistols or swords and he doesn’t have his two Uber strong DF
You forget that BB managed to scar Shanks with a weapon. He at the very least would be proficient at that weapon, I think its named Claw or something. Regardless his stats and higher endurance/durablity should carry him against Rays old age.
Canonically Ray admitted inferiority towards Yonko Teach with his fruits, This teach has better haki but not his fruits. Id say its equals out a bit.
Yeah but BM has an established fighting style with sword without DF and we know how powerful it is. While Fuji has none. Fuji fighting style with sword is linked with his DF anytime we are seeing him. So advantage BM here.
We have seen Fuji fighting with his sword and blocking attacks from Luffy, he is also qualified as a blind swordsman. Based on a guy who was extremely proficient with his sword. He also only recently got his fruit, meaning he had to rely on his sword skills alone before hand. And he was deemed powerful enough without a fruit to ascend to the rank of Admiral. So BM doesnt have the advantage in swordsmanship id actually give it to Fuji, but she has more brute strenght if you will.
Huge mochi fists, piercing mochi, numerous arms mochi fists etc. The output will be higher with the mochi DF.
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Output maybe but Id give lethality to Doffys fruit. If Sengoku manages to pierce WB its going to accelerate his demise as per canon. And I dont see why Sengoku couldnt.
Based on a guy who was extremely proficient with his sword. He also only recently got his fruit, meaning he had to rely on his sword skills alone before hand. And he was deemed powerful enough without a fruit to ascend to the rank of Admiral. So BM doesnt have the advantage in swordsmanship id actually give it to Fuji, but she has more brute strenght if you will.
Fuji is obvioulsys super strong with his sword. He had admiral potential with sword only. Obviously he has some huge skills with sword.
But we have seen none of it. Fuji each time he is clashing with someone with his sword he is using his DF.
Admiral Fuji the one we are seeing now with his overall level is using his Uber strong DF to fight each time.
While BM is a juggernaut even without homies and she is using a fighting sword style on screen without her DF, she can use elbaf spear, Hakai etc. Coupled with BM insane physical, in a direct clash i favor BM here to be the less nerf of the two.
And with enlightment and brain eureka BM will be even more skilled as a fighter.
Output maybe but Id give lethality to Doffys fruit. If Sengoku manages to pierce WB its going to accelerate his demise as per canon. And I dont see why Sengoku couldnt.
I agree that WB can have problems with his health, but the mochi DF logia like powers with FS can make WB avoid many hits and being hit a lot less then if he was « tengible »
You forget that BB managed to scar Shanks with a weapon. He at the very least would be proficient at that weapon, I think its named Claw or something. Regardless his stats and higher endurance/durablity should carry him against Rays old age.
I remember that well. But BB is a tricky bitch. No one knows how BB managed to hurt Shanks.
Onviously Bb is strong and can fight with his claw. But it should be nowhere near Ray proficiency with his sword and CQC skills.
Ray all bread and butter is fighting like that. He became a Yonko like threat fighting like that.
While BB became a top tiers with the two strongest DF out there.
I feel people greatly underestimate what a top tier with perfect mastery of haki and Warp Warp could do here. Enemies better watch out for cheapshot while they're busy with their opponent.
I feel people greatly underestimate what a top tier with perfect mastery of haki and Warp Warp could do here. Enemies better watch out for cheapshot while they're busy with their opponent.
Well Law couldnt move BM and Kaido because their haki was too strong, not sure BB can move them around. Maybe he could move Whitebeard since he has less Haki mastery.
Also BM isnt going to be a dumbass with that fruit. But WB is a weak link since he will deteriorate.
Well Law couldnt move BM and Kaido because their haki was too strong, not sure BB can move them around. Maybe he could move Whitebeard since he has less Haki mastery.
Also BM isnt going to be a dumbass with that fruit. But WB is a weak link since he will deteriorate.
Sure thing, but BB can move himself. These match-ups require a lot of imagination and in my mind with tier 5 mastery of the fruit and awakened, someone as cunning and sneaky as BB being able to spam teleport all around the battlefield with little stamina issue is dangerous.
Like I can picture Old Ray and Issho going at it, Ray would have to fully focus on haki equalized Issho considering how his clash against a Kizaru (who should be inferior as a swordsman to Fujitora) went. Blackbeard would 100% punch the back of his head with a devastating ACOC punch.
I think the problem boils down to team 1 having two top tiers past their prime. Maybe BM with high IQ could save it but I'm not sure.
Sure thing, but BB can move himself. These match-ups require a lot of imagination and in my mind with tier 5 mastery of the fruit and awakened, someone as cunning and sneaky as BB being able to spam teleport all around the battlefield with little stamina issue is dangerous.
That is true but being underwater in the plaza is kind of limiting dont you think?
Like I can picture Old Ray and Issho going at it, Ray would have to fully focus on haki equalized Issho considering how his clash against a Kizaru (who should be inferior as a swordsman to Fujitora) went. Blackbeard would 100% punch the back of his head with a devastating ACOC punch.
Honestly Big Mom should identify teach as the biggest threat with his teleport and go after him first. WB could help lock him down with Mochi as well.
Imo nobody would beat BM 1vs1 but she does has the issue of having WB with his disease and Im not sure how long ray can last against Fuji. I mean Im sure he can fight for a while, maybe a few days but Fuji should out endurance him.
Which is why I think the key for victory for team 1 is taking out Blackbeard first.
WB can create a hardened mochi dome to limit the angles from which Teach can attack. They could also fight near the edge of the water so that teach cant TP behind them,etc.
Won't be easy, but FS is faillible especially if your full attention is taken on something already.
Imo nobody would beat BM 1vs1 but she does has the issue of having WB with his disease and Im not sure how long ray can last against Fuji. I mean Im sure he can fight for a while, maybe a few days but Fuji should out endurance him.
For team 1 to win they do have to identify Blackbeard as the main threat as soon the battle starts. If not I see him seriously injuring either WB or Ray quickly in the battle. Another top tier that can spam teleport is hell for aging top tiers who despite still being powerful, have worse reflex than they used to, even if COO kind of make up for it.
Gotta be honest, I didn't even think about the location here lol
Won't be easy, but FS is faillible especially if your full attention is taken on something already.
I agree
For team 1 to win they do have to identify Blackbeard as the main threat as soon the battle starts. If not I see him seriously injuring either WB or Ray quickly in the battle. Another top tier that can spam teleport is hell for aging top tiers who despite still being powerful, have worse reflex than they used to, even if COO kind of make up for it.
I actually thought of something, WB can create domes of Mochi to prevent BB from coming from certain angles. They could also fight with their backs near the edge of the water so that BB cant teleport behind them at the risk of drowning.
Depends on ages of some characters but I will go with Team 1, Ray and Meme with Tier 5 haki ia too OP and that Meme has Choppers fruit which makes her a genius instead of what she was in Wano. Fatty is a clumsy fighter. All Tier 5 guys have shitty fruits tbh with maybe BB having a better one, we are still unsure of its capabilities.
Ray = BM => BB => Fuji > WB => Sengoku so I would say Team 1 wins ext diff.
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