Character Discussion Would you like Zoro to lose Enma before Wano end?
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No I wouldn't want zoro to lose enma as it makes no sense. Enma was clearly given to zoro as his sword so it's not like he's borrowing it just for wano. It's been hyped as a blade that zoro will make permanently black so why would he leave it? Enma is a great sword that even post wano can keep making zoro stronger. Lastly what sword would take it's place? If you think nidai why would zoro trade enma instead of sandai for nidai? If you think shusui why would zoro say F u to wano when he already accepted enma as a fair trade for shusui? No plot relevance or logical sense explains why he should leave enma other than the fans just want it.
Enma is cool and iconic, so I prefer him to keep it. But after the battle against Kaido, Zoro should get Shusui back. He won it legitimately. After the Wado Ichimonji, it's Zoro's most iconic sword.
Wado Ichimonji + Shusui + Enma is the best combination. If Nidai was for Zoro, he would use it in this battle.
Wado Ichimonji + Shusui + Enma is the best combination. If Nidai was for Zoro, he would use it in this battle.
Question is why would zoro go back and get shusui? There are 2 huge reasons he shouldn't
1. Zoro gave it up himself voluntarily for enma and what shusui meant to the people of wano.
2. Zoro now has the hype of turning enma black and by virtue his other swords black. It wouldn't make sense if he already has a black blade to then make his other blades black.
So I doubt zoro is gonna give the big middle finger to the country of wano and go take shusui back.
1. Zoro gave it up himself voluntarily for enma and what shusui meant to the people of wano.
2. Zoro now has the hype of turning enma black and by virtue his other swords black. It wouldn't make sense if he already has a black blade to then make his other blades black.
So I doubt zoro is gonna give the big middle finger to the country of wano and go take shusui back.
Why would Zoro lose a sword that rightfully belong to Zoro?
Oden was not worthy of Enma because he was never able to become one with Enma and make it permanently black. Zoro is poised to make Enma permanently black so the sword belongs to Zoro.
Think of Oden as Shanks, the guy who is holding on to Roger's hat, think of Zoro as Luffy, the person who the hat rightfully belongs to.
Oden was just a place holder, Zoro is rightful owner.
Oden was not worthy of Enma because he was never able to become one with Enma and make it permanently black. Zoro is poised to make Enma permanently black so the sword belongs to Zoro.
Think of Oden as Shanks, the guy who is holding on to Roger's hat, think of Zoro as Luffy, the person who the hat rightfully belongs to.
Oden was just a place holder, Zoro is rightful owner.
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That moment when Sanji got his birthright (Raid suit) from his family as Powerup
So it doesn't matter whether he uses it or not
But then Zoro gets a sword which belonged to Oden and has Oden's haki in it.
A powerful/special sword that even Yonko notices to be abnormal.
Germa/Vinsmoked as a whole been hyped via Sanji isn't an issue coz he's one of themWhile zoro has been outshone by a freaking sword
Yonko care more about a sword and a dead man than Zoro
This topic was made prematurely, IMO.
Enma is getting the focus because it’s Zoro’s newest sword, and it hasn’t had a showcase fight up until now.
This was the same deal with Sandai Kitetsu during Whiskey Peak, and Shusui back in Thriller Bark.
The enemy Zoro is presently fighting is also familiar with Enma and especially its previous user. It’s directly connecting Zoro and Kaido. Now that Kaido recognizes it as Oden’s sword, he can start judging its current wielder to its former.
Zoro will likely accomplish more with Enma than Oden ever did, so I doubt he’ll be “overshadowed” by the sword. Even now, Linlin and Killer didn’t say Enma cut Kaido. They said Zoro did.
Lastly, how does Enma breaking signify Zoro got stronger? It’s explicitly stated by Mihawk that even one nick is a mark of shame. I don’t even think Haki even works like that. Haki is will. Why is it in Zoro’s will to break Enma? If any thing, he’d try to make it black like Hitetsu mentioned to him. And once he does, Zoro will have more ownership of the sword than anyone else, even Oden. Isn’t that part of why Zoro had to hand over Shusui? It was a blade Ryuma forged in his years of battle. So Zoro’s going to leave his own mark on a blade. And right now it appears to be the one he substituted Shusui for.
Enma is getting the focus because it’s Zoro’s newest sword, and it hasn’t had a showcase fight up until now.
This was the same deal with Sandai Kitetsu during Whiskey Peak, and Shusui back in Thriller Bark.
The enemy Zoro is presently fighting is also familiar with Enma and especially its previous user. It’s directly connecting Zoro and Kaido. Now that Kaido recognizes it as Oden’s sword, he can start judging its current wielder to its former.
Zoro will likely accomplish more with Enma than Oden ever did, so I doubt he’ll be “overshadowed” by the sword. Even now, Linlin and Killer didn’t say Enma cut Kaido. They said Zoro did.
Lastly, how does Enma breaking signify Zoro got stronger? It’s explicitly stated by Mihawk that even one nick is a mark of shame. I don’t even think Haki even works like that. Haki is will. Why is it in Zoro’s will to break Enma? If any thing, he’d try to make it black like Hitetsu mentioned to him. And once he does, Zoro will have more ownership of the sword than anyone else, even Oden. Isn’t that part of why Zoro had to hand over Shusui? It was a blade Ryuma forged in his years of battle. So Zoro’s going to leave his own mark on a blade. And right now it appears to be the one he substituted Shusui for.
That moment when Sanji got his birthright (Raid suit) from his family as Powerup
So it doesn't matter whether he uses it or not
But then Zoro gets a sword which belonged to Oden and has Oden's haki in it.
A powerful/special sword that even Yonko notices to be abnormal.
Germa/Vinsmoked as a whole been hyped via Sanji isn't an issue coz he's one of themWhile zoro has been outshone by a freaking sword
Yonko care more about a sword and a dead man than Zoro
It was thanks to Germa's tech that Sanji became rather strong.
And it is Zoro to have shocked Big Mom and Kaido.