Anime & Manga Yes, Zoro is "Done" After Defeating King

[Jailer]

Cinera - makes a detail thread about why ZKK is possible

Detailed thread = he's wrong

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I disagree that Zoro confronting Kaido has no obvious character benefit for Zoro.

But I've made the case that it's important for Zoro's character in several other threads.

Here's the big one:

• Zoro's Second Confrontation With Kaido

Zoro's need to confront Kaido again due to his connection with Oden via Enma:

• A look at Inherited Will in the Land of Wano

Zoro's need to confront Kaido again due to his connection with Ryuma:

• The Second Advent

A summary of the above two arguments:

• No, Zoro is NOT "Done" After Defeating King

Here's the argument that Kaido must die:

• Kaido Must Die

If ever there was a burden of proof to meet, I have 10,000+ words and a 100+ manga panels to satisfy it.



Your response does not address the arguments I've raised at all.

Your claim that Zoro fighting again must necessarily be incredibly contrived reveals a lack of imagination (nothing suggests that Zoro needs to go to the Rooftop to confront Kaido again), and it's not even a sound argument regardless (people argued that Yamato heading to the Rooftop after Kaido had moved downstairs made Yamato fighting Kaido to contrived to happen).


Your claim that Zoro is obviously done doesn't ring true either. Especially when Zoro still has multiple unfinished plot lines.


Analogising ZKK to "2 + 2 = 5" is nothing but hubris. It's nowhere near as clear cut as that.

And even then, you can prove that 2 + 2 != 5, but you can't do the same for Zoro killing Kaido.

Kaido needs to die after all, and Zoro is the one best positioned to execute him.


But you've clearly never engaged with any of the arguments I've raised.



Honestly, I don't really care if you're sold on ZKK or not.

I don't intend to force you to accept it. I acknowledge that it can be wrong.

But this stunt you just pulled? It's insulting.

I’ve read everything you’ve written and I don’t feel the need to respond because just like 99+% of all fan theories ever written (around 99% of which are wrong) there’s is proportionately very little consideration of evidence against your points.

Literally any proposition and every proposition looks good when you only look at evidence for it.

I can right 100,000+ words about the ways the world looks flat and my arguments would look amazing in isolation. But literally 8-9 words is all anyone will ever need to debunk all of it.

ZKK/ZKO would be poorly written and highly contrived.

Zoro going/not going to rooftop has literally nothing to do with that. You don’t seem to understand what contrived means with respect to narrative.

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Detailed thread = he's wrong

Apparently writing a lot = writing smart lmfao

 

[Cinera]

I’ve read everything you’ve written and I don’t feel the need to respond because just like 99+% of all fan theories ever written (around 99% of which are wrong) there’s is proportionately very little consideration of evidence against your points.

That's not actually true. I regularly consider caveats to my case.

And most of my theories haven't been wrong.

ZKK/ZKO would be poorly written and highly contrived.

Zoro going/not going to rooftop has literally nothing to do with that. You don’t seem to understand what contrived means with respect to narrative.

You just claim that it's poorly written and highly contrived but you've yet to present a cogent explanation of how.

I can right 100,000+ words about the ways the world looks flat and my arguments would look amazing in isolation. But literally 8-9 words is all anyone will ever need to debunk all of it.

Comparing ZKK to "flat earth" right now.



Alright, I'll be disengaging from this thread now. You clearly believe it's obviously false and seem to have no actual cogent argument as to why, just that it is.

 

[Sentry22]

Don't worry. Even after the arc is over and done with, Zoro fans are still going to be screaming ZKK.

 

[The White Crane]

Please stop with copium.

ZKK was debunked back in chapter 1010.

It’s not like ZKK would be good for Zoro’s character at all. It’s just cringe at this point so stop.


@Cinera

Edit:
Why do I need to write an essay to rebut someone who writes an essay saying that 2 + 2 =5?

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Don't worry. Even after the arc is over and done with, Zoro fans are still going to be screaming ZKK.

Why won't we? We'll be celebrating it taking place for years, after all, including after Wano of course.

 

[L55]

Done

 

[Peroroncino]

LadmiralLinyagi

 

[The White Crane]

Please stop with copium.

ZKK was debunked back in chapter 1010.

It’s not like ZKK would be good for Zoro’s character at all. It’s just cringe at this point so stop.


@Cinera

Edit:
Why do I need to write an essay to rebut someone who writes an essay saying that 2 + 2 =5?

 

[BillSlipton]

That's not actually true. I regularly consider caveats to my case.

And most of my theories haven't been wrong.







You just claim that it's poorly written and highly contrived but you've yet to present a cogent explanation of how.



Comparing ZKK to "flat earth" right now.



Alright, I'll be disengaging from this thread now. You clearly believe it's obviously false and seem to have no actual cogent argument as to why, just that it is.

Yes zkk is comparable to flat earth theories.

It's fucking retarded😂😂😂

 

[Ballel]

Yes zkk is comparable to flat earth theories.

It's fucking retarded😂😂😂

Please don't insult flat earthers, they are human beings with a soul. Please don't hurt their feelings.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

W?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Damn he was right

 

[BleakAsh]

 

[Ballel]

Banned for sexualized content