Versus Battle Yhwach vs Bunny Girl Karen
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It's not.
His feats do live up to his claims. What damage has he taken when he had the Almighty active? None. Ichigo only hit his Getsuga when Yhwach turned it off. The first "death" was because of Aizen, and his final death was due to Jugram, Uryu, Aizen, and the arrow.
Bankai is a powerup, not really an ability that affects him. The bankai still got destroyed regardless. When he "makes" whatever he sees his ally, he's saying it can't be used to hurt or defeat him. Ichigo's bankai worked because he didn't actually "see" it cuz Aizen KS.
He also broke all bankai in all futures, effecting every single timeline. Only reason Ichigo got it back is because Tsukishima made a past where it wasn't broken. Even Orihime couldn't reject the events until Tsukishima came in because of Yhwach's Almighty.
Yhwach changes the timeline to where he can hit her, and she can't change it at all. Or the Miracle comes in and wins it for him.
Almighty active when Ichigo stabbed him in the back and blasted him with a Getsuga, he was just duped by an illusion, which by the way kills the claim of Almighty being passive.
Whatever, he doesn’t power null Ichigo with a stare and his only answer was physically destroying his sword.
Any changes to the timeline Yhwach tries will be changed even more efficiently by Karen without even trying
Gerard can only turn his injuries to size growth. He doesn’t change events across any point in time to success or spontaneously cause injury on others.
Read the passages. The luck Karen achieves is from altering cause and effect itself for anything that will allow her to succeed. Pretty much Almighty and just realized better since it’s not only actually passive but she can overturn the past too which Almighty has no counter to as it’s limited to only the future
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No lol, you're grossly oversimplifying Gerard's ability which you seem to do a lot in order to downplay Bleach characters
The Miracle is verbatim said to make impossible events possible, compare that to Karen who is verbatim said to not be able to make impossible shit happen, she can make something that's 1/100000000000000000000000 happen, but not something impossible.
Gerard's The Miracle > Unbeatable Emperor
The Miracle is verbatim said to make impossible events possible, compare that to Karen who is verbatim said to not be able to make impossible shit happen, she can make something that's 1/100000000000000000000000 happen, but not something impossible.
Gerard's The Miracle > Unbeatable Emperor
Higashikawa with the same power saving his friends which is impossible because their dead… from his power overturning history to undo their deaths in the past. Very much impossible without changing history itself.
Now give me an answer this time instead of dodging by answering my question with a question: Citation of Gerard even overturning history with his Miracle or hell doing anything besides increasing his size from damage
Now give me an answer this time instead of dodging by answering my question with a question: Citation of Gerard even overturning history with his Miracle or hell doing anything besides increasing his size from damage
You're literally arguing against a fact, we know Unbeatable Emperor only works when the probability of success is greater than 0%, ergo, she can't make impossible shit happen.
Again, you're oversimplifying Gerard's ability just to downplay, we know that The Miracle works by making impossible shit possible because it's directly said, no amount of downplay or claims of hyperbole from you is changing that.
Making impossible things possible > not making impossible things possible
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Again, you're oversimplifying Gerard's ability just to downplay, we know that The Miracle works by making impossible shit possible because it's directly said, no amount of downplay or claims of hyperbole from you is changing that.
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When you said light, I assumed you meant Auswählen. Whatever he didn't touch him.
Almighty was active but Yhwach was under KS. It doesn't kill the claim of Almighty being passive. Yhwach being under the illusion of KS isn't an antifeat, it's a feat for KS.
The moment he unlocked it, the ability was passive. The only active part is the fate manipulation which he can use after death. Almighty is passive precog and powernull, and active fate manipulation in one ability.
The only time he physically broke Ichigo's sword was when he had his powers turned off and didn't gain the Almighty back yet. Every other time, it was done through fate manipulation.
Gerard doesn't just turn his injuries into size, speed, and strength. He makes the impossible possible. It's also probability manipulation. The less likely something is to happen, the the more probable it becomes.
He couldn't find the Vizards or sense their reiatsu due to how small they were. He deemed it "impossible" to find them and by a "Miracle" he instantly found them.
Almighty prevents Orihime's powers from working which is causality manipulation. It would prevent the luck Karen has from working. He would "see" it in the future and the ability won't work against him because he "knows" it.
Almighty is better in every single way. Even if you try to limit the Almighty, he still has The Miracle.
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Why does he need to overturn history? He makes the impossible possible for himself. If it is impossible for him to hit Karen, he will be guaranteed to hit her.
Just read the ability descriptions on the Bleach wiki, VSbattles, All Fiction Battles, Top-strongest, etc if you don't know.
Almighty was active but Yhwach was under KS. It doesn't kill the claim of Almighty being passive. Yhwach being under the illusion of KS isn't an antifeat, it's a feat for KS.
The moment he unlocked it, the ability was passive. The only active part is the fate manipulation which he can use after death. Almighty is passive precog and powernull, and active fate manipulation in one ability.
The only time he physically broke Ichigo's sword was when he had his powers turned off and didn't gain the Almighty back yet. Every other time, it was done through fate manipulation.
Gerard doesn't just turn his injuries into size, speed, and strength. He makes the impossible possible. It's also probability manipulation. The less likely something is to happen, the the more probable it becomes.
He couldn't find the Vizards or sense their reiatsu due to how small they were. He deemed it "impossible" to find them and by a "Miracle" he instantly found them.
Almighty prevents Orihime's powers from working which is causality manipulation. It would prevent the luck Karen has from working. He would "see" it in the future and the ability won't work against him because he "knows" it.
Almighty is better in every single way. Even if you try to limit the Almighty, he still has The Miracle.
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Why does he need to overturn history? He makes the impossible possible for himself. If it is impossible for him to hit Karen, he will be guaranteed to hit her.
Just read the ability descriptions on the Bleach wiki, VSbattles, All Fiction Battles, Top-strongest, etc if you don't know.
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You're literally arguing against a fact, we know Unbeatable Emperor only works when the probability of success is greater than 0%, ergo, she can't make impossible shit happen.
Again, you're oversimplifying Gerard's ability just to downplay, we know that The Miracle works by making impossible shit possible because it's directly said, no amount of downplay or claims of hyperbole from you is changing that.
Making impossible things possible > not making impossible things possible
:holdthisl:
Again, you're oversimplifying Gerard's ability just to downplay, we know that The Miracle works by making impossible shit possible because it's directly said, no amount of downplay or claims of hyperbole from you is changing that.
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Citation for where it says Unbeatable Emperor can’t affect things with a 0% chance of happening. Because I already countered that by showing Higashikawa saving already dead people, a very much impossible thing to do.
And for my other question: When has Gerard affected history. When has he affected the opponents actions with his probability manipulation that can even do the impossible, when has he made it so all enemies actions are null, etc. when has Gerard’s Miracle done anything to change the outcome of a battle beyond healing and increasing his strength since he’s otherwise a dumb brick that can even be overpowered? Scan just tells me he boosted his senses the same way he boosts his muscles
C’mon Bleach tard, you can do better than this.
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Backed into a corner because you are misrepresenting Gerard's abilities?
I literally found one profile on both of them and it's on VSbattles.
Higashikawa Mamoru | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
Bunny Girl Karen | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
He hasn't and doesn't need to.
He made Toshiro's ability negating ice not work on him. Toshiro even stating that his power works outside of logic. He found Vizards by deeming it impossible. He doesn't need to affect his opponents, he just need to affect himself.
Him changing his odds for success is still probability manipulation.
I literally found one profile on both of them and it's on VSbattles.
Higashikawa Mamoru | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
Bunny Girl Karen | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
He hasn't and doesn't need to.
He made Toshiro's ability negating ice not work on him. Toshiro even stating that his power works outside of logic. He found Vizards by deeming it impossible. He doesn't need to affect his opponents, he just need to affect himself.
Him changing his odds for success is still probability manipulation.
And still didn’t answer a single question.
Concession accepted, your dismissed.
Touched his power though the other time when he negged it.
Meaning it’s not passive. RIP
Yet fails to things he can’t even see, hence why KS worked in allowing an attack to get though.
Meaning he couldn’t just power null Ichigo with a stare and his only means was to break the blade itself.
And does nothing else with it like affect history or anything at all to the opponent or just spontaneously win by doing nothing. Pretty garbage power really that doesn’t even need to be mentioned here
just increased his senses to better find them.
Orihime’s powers are fucking garbage. So limited, she can’t even heal injuries from attacks of opponents like Ulquiorra’s. Anything he tries to change in the future is irrelevant to Karen constantly affecting the present and past, something Almighty can’t do.
Concession accepted, your dismissed.
Touched his power though the other time when he negged it.
Meaning it’s not passive. RIP
Yet fails to things he can’t even see, hence why KS worked in allowing an attack to get though.
Meaning he couldn’t just power null Ichigo with a stare and his only means was to break the blade itself.
And does nothing else with it like affect history or anything at all to the opponent or just spontaneously win by doing nothing. Pretty garbage power really that doesn’t even need to be mentioned here
just increased his senses to better find them.
Orihime’s powers are fucking garbage. So limited, she can’t even heal injuries from attacks of opponents like Ulquiorra’s. Anything he tries to change in the future is irrelevant to Karen constantly affecting the present and past, something Almighty can’t do.
He didn't touch him physically. That was your argument, was it not? Almighty isn't power absorption, it's power nullification.
No, it just means you don't know what a passive ability is. RIP
KS only worked because it was used before he unlocked the Almighty. I don't know why you think you are making an argument. That's not an antifeat for Yhwach, but a feat for Aizen. That's also the limitation of the Almighty which means clowns can't claim NLF like those DBZ apes who thinks they power null every hax in existence because they can blow up a lot of planets. That limitation isn't something that can be used here because Yhwach starts off with it going by the image.
Meaning you lack reading comprehension. Like you somehow couldn't read the part where I said the Almighty was turned off. How is he going to powernull without the ability that does that?
Right, so you can't answer it. Got it. He doesn't need to affect history, he just need to affect probability, which he does. He changes his own probability which is still probability manipulation.
You seriously need to work on that comprehension problem. He made the chances of him finding them 100% by deeming it impossible aka 0%.
"Just increased his senses to better find them 🤓"
Orihime's powers aren't garbage. You just don't understand how her power works. She has one of the most broken powers but is limited by her mental state. She has casualty manipulation, her powers don't heal, they reject events. It's just limited by her mental state like I said before to clarify.
Her powers didn't work when Yhwach used his Almighty, he negated her power's effects. So he will do the same to Karen. Yhwach views infinite futures and affects them all at once.
No, it just means you don't know what a passive ability is. RIP
KS only worked because it was used before he unlocked the Almighty. I don't know why you think you are making an argument. That's not an antifeat for Yhwach, but a feat for Aizen. That's also the limitation of the Almighty which means clowns can't claim NLF like those DBZ apes who thinks they power null every hax in existence because they can blow up a lot of planets. That limitation isn't something that can be used here because Yhwach starts off with it going by the image.
Meaning you lack reading comprehension. Like you somehow couldn't read the part where I said the Almighty was turned off. How is he going to powernull without the ability that does that?
Right, so you can't answer it. Got it. He doesn't need to affect history, he just need to affect probability, which he does. He changes his own probability which is still probability manipulation.
You seriously need to work on that comprehension problem. He made the chances of him finding them 100% by deeming it impossible aka 0%.
"Just increased his senses to better find them 🤓"
Orihime's powers aren't garbage. You just don't understand how her power works. She has one of the most broken powers but is limited by her mental state. She has casualty manipulation, her powers don't heal, they reject events. It's just limited by her mental state like I said before to clarify.
Her powers didn't work when Yhwach used his Almighty, he negated her power's effects. So he will do the same to Karen. Yhwach views infinite futures and affects them all at once.
He was touching the power (ink all over him) or using his light in all cases with Ichibei
No you just have a loose definition of what passive means.
Not arguing KS. I’m arguing the Getsuga Tensho from Ichigo that hit Yhwach because KS kept him from noticing it before it was too late. This wouldn’t have been an issue for a passive ability.
Had the Almighty on when he destroyed Ichigo’s blade.
And does nothing with it beyond increasing his stats. Shit tier that doesn’t need to even be brought up
Goes hand in hand with increasing his other stats and how he literally can’t do anything else with it. Can’t control the probability of an opponents attack happening, it hitting, himself even seeing it coming, etc.
Garbage for the above reason I mentioned. Couldn’t heal Ichigo from R2 Ulquiorra and no mention of it being mental since that only has ever affected her combat prowess
Good for him, won’t be rejecting a character with the same power as his on a strong and more efficient level. Karen does everything the Almighy does but unlike Almighty doesn need to do anything and can affect the past and preset too
No you just have a loose definition of what passive means.
Not arguing KS. I’m arguing the Getsuga Tensho from Ichigo that hit Yhwach because KS kept him from noticing it before it was too late. This wouldn’t have been an issue for a passive ability.
Had the Almighty on when he destroyed Ichigo’s blade.
And does nothing with it beyond increasing his stats. Shit tier that doesn’t need to even be brought up
Goes hand in hand with increasing his other stats and how he literally can’t do anything else with it. Can’t control the probability of an opponents attack happening, it hitting, himself even seeing it coming, etc.
Garbage for the above reason I mentioned. Couldn’t heal Ichigo from R2 Ulquiorra and no mention of it being mental since that only has ever affected her combat prowess
Good for him, won’t be rejecting a character with the same power as his on a strong and more efficient level. Karen does everything the Almighy does but unlike Almighty doesn need to do anything and can affect the past and preset too
Now say that without crying
I get it, you hate Bleach, you dislike how they treat your favorite verses like children, but having a fit and trying your hardest to downplay Yhwach in every thread isn't going to change that unfortunately.
It seems to me like the guy that spends all his time in the multiversal section downplaying Bleach is crying
I get it, you hate Bleach, you dislike how they treat your favorite verses like children, but having a fit and trying your hardest to downplay Yhwach in every thread isn't going to change that unfortunately.
I get it, you hate Bleach, you dislike how they treat your favorite verses like children, but having a fit and trying your hardest to downplay Yhwach in every thread isn't going to change that unfortunately.
Two sentences is an essay
Then what the fuck were your previous posts? Entire novels?
Keep seething that the most populous and notorious downplaying powerscaling community has Yhwach effortlessly shitstomping the verses you dream of every night
Then what the fuck were your previous posts? Entire novels?
Keep seething that the most populous and notorious downplaying powerscaling community has Yhwach effortlessly shitstomping the verses you dream of every night
Man your idol Quincy Hitler McMoustache getting fodder-stomped by a random bunny girl REALLY mind-fucked you LOL