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Loki D. Terror

Loki D. Terror

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#42
#42
soupongo said:
What´s up with the ¨Joyboy level Haki can kill Imu¨ headcanon? Rocks is the descendent of a pirate who was able to fight Imu like Joyboy was, Davy Jones. After seeing Imu, he never tried to train his haki or anything, he specifically spent the rest of the flashback trying to get Harald to eat the Elbaf fruit, with the flashback ending with a character eating the fruit. As far as we know, no one but Loki can harm Imu at all, though Teach and Luffy probably will be able to as well.
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I never said kill. I said hurt.
 
Loki D. Terror

Loki D. Terror

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#46
#46
soupongo said:
The flashback makes it pretty clear that Haki does not work on Imu, same should apply to Joyboy level Haki, you need one of the special fruits. Not everything needs to be told to the audience absolutely directly....
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Joyboy's haki give imu ptsd. Haki for most part is answer to most of the things. If Yonko-PK tier haki can hurt HKs who have weaker regen than imu , then it stands to reason that much stronger haki can indeed hurt imu. Though to kill imu you do need 2 DFs. I agree.
 
soupongo

soupongo

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#47
#47
Loki D. Terror said:
Joyboy's haki give imu ptsd.
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This doesn´t actually confirm anything,lol? Are you under the impression that Joyboy using his Haki on Egghead injured Imu on Mariejois? It simply reminds him of bad memories he had with Joyboy, and we don´t even know anything about their relationship. Did Imu even have his current powers back then? All we know is that Joyboy did not leave information about the seals at laughtale, since Gaban did not know about it.

Loki D. Terror said:
Haki for most part is answer to most of the things. If Yonko-PK tier haki can hurt HKs who have weaker regen than imu , then it stands to reason that much stronger haki can indeed hurt imu. Though to kill imu you do need 2 DFs. I agree.
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This isn´t an argument? Haki being the answer for most things, but Imu never being overthrown or even hurt by anyone in 800 years simply means he´s the exception, and he has to have a power that the HK/Gorosei do not. The fact is, the only things in the arc about Imu that are confirmed to be able to threaten him are the 2 devil fruits Rocks was looking for.

No one in the manga implied Haki is the answer here. Canonically, only Loki can hurt Imu, like it or not
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Loki D. Terror

Loki D. Terror

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#48
#48
soupongo said:
The fact is, the only things in the arc about Imu that are confirmed to be able to threaten him are the 2 devil fruits Rocks was looking for.

No one in the manga implied Haki is the answer here. Canonically, only Loki can hurt Imu, like it or not
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Not really. That is what xebec told us. Xebec didn't knew about nika btw.

It is logical. Imu's regen >> Hk's regen. We know gaban can hurt HK's regen. It stands to reason stronger haki can hurt imu. Joyboy's haki alone sky split by himself. I will wager joyboy's haki is strong enough to hurt imu himself.

You would take an L when we get joyboy flashback anyway lol just like you took an L saying imu is a weakling :risisweat:
 
soupongo

soupongo

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#50
#50
Loki D. Terror said:
Not really. That is what xebec told us. Xebec didn't knew about nika btw.
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Xebec doesn´t need to know about the Nika fruit, Joyboy isn´t his ancestor, Davy Jones is. Davy Jones is obviously as strong as Joyboy or even stronger. If he used Haki to harm Imu, the Davys would know about how a top haki user could harm Imu and talk about it, but instead we only learn about the 2 devil fruits. It´s obviously not a coincidence that the most important davy in the manga spent 30 years or whatever looking for a special DF. Not training for ¨muh Soyboy level Haki¨. And again, Xebec isn´t a real person, Oda is just using him for exposition.
Loki D. Terror said:
It is logical. Imu's regen >> Hk's regen. We know gaban can hurt HK's regen. It stands to reason stronger haki can hurt imu. Joyboy's haki alone sky split by himself. I will wager joyboy's haki is strong enough to hurt imu himself.
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Headcanon, the fact that Imu can completely ignore several ACOC attacks implies he has a seperate power that haki can not harm. Joyboy isn´t shown to be an exception, and the most famous thing about him is his god fruit, with 2 others existing. One obviously for Davy Jones and the former Giant King
Loki D. Terror said:
You would take an L when we get joyboy flashback anyway lol just like you took an L saying imu is a weakling :risisweat:
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Your clown ass literally thought that Xebec was looking for the Nika fruit as one of the 2 devil fruits like 1 month ago lmfao.
 
Loki D. Terror

Loki D. Terror

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#51
#51
soupongo said:
Xebec doesn´t need to know about the Nika fruit, Joyboy isn´t his ancestor, Davy Jones is. Davy Jones is obviously as strong as Joyboy or even stronger. If he used Haki to harm Imu, the Davys would know about how a top haki user could harm Imu and talk about it, but instead we only learn about the 2 devil fruits. It´s obviously not a coincidence that the most important davy in the manga spent 30 years or whatever looking for a special DF. Not training for ¨muh Soyboy level Haki¨. And again, Xebec isn´t a real person, Oda is just using him for exposition.

Headcanon, the fact that Imu can completely ignore several ACOC attacks implies he has a seperate power that haki can not harm. Joyboy isn´t shown to be an exception, and the most famous thing about him is his god fruit, with 2 others existing. One obviously for Davy Jones and the former Giant King

Your clown ass literally thought that Xebec was looking for the Nika fruit as one of the 2 devil fruits like 1 month ago lmfao.
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Blah blah blah. Shall we have a bet on this then? I win if joyboy's haki is revealed to be strong enough to hurt imu. You win if it is vice versa. I am down for 2 week avi bet :myman:
 
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