Character Discussion Zkk will happen

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#61
I will grant you that Zoro vs Mihawk will be the highlight of whatever arc it's in. I do think it's a special case because it's Zoro's main dream to defeat Mihawk, so it can't be overshadowed, even by Luffy.

If Zoro fights Kizaru and wins, then Saturn will be stronger and Luffy will beat him. If Kizaru is stronger or Luffy doesn't defeat Saturn, then Zoro will not defeat Kizaru. Maybe Luffy will, or maybe Zoro will fight him and get interrupted or lose. The fact is that Zoro has never defeated a stronger opponent than Luffy's in a given arc even one time in the entire series.

As far as the hakai thing, Zoro took two seconds of it and then got saved by Law, and even then it broke every bone in his body. If he took the whole thing, he would have died. I saw no one looking at Zoro in awe during that moment.
If there is a full fight on Egghead, Zoro fights Kizaru, Luffy fights Saturn. As I said, there is no way to tell who is stronger between them.
Zoro defeated Morgans while Luffy defeated Helmeppo so it is not true that Zoro never defeated a stronger opponent.
Law never saved Zoro from the Hakai, it was Zoro who deflected Hakai.
And I gave you a link for a thread that explains why Zoro always was, is and always will be stronger than Luffy. Lemme know when you read it.
 
#64
If there is a full fight on Egghead, Zoro fights Kizaru, Luffy fights Saturn. As I said, there is no way to tell who is stronger between them.
Zoro defeated Morgans while Luffy defeated Helmeppo so it is not true that Zoro never defeated a stronger opponent.
Law never saved Zoro from the Hakai, it was Zoro who deflected Hakai.
And I gave you a link for a thread that explains why Zoro always was, is and always will be stronger than Luffy. Lemme know when you read it.
Luffy and Zoro fought Morgan together and Luffy did most of it. If you want the technicality that Zoro landed the final hit, then sure. But one fodder who posed no threat to either of them from more than a thousand chapters ago in 1997 is not really a precedent even if you count it, which I wouldn't.

I'm not going to go through the panels and debate Law shambling Zoro out of the way of Hakai, because I just don't care enough to spend that kind of time on this. Let's just agree to disagree on that.

I'll check out your thread and let you know what I think. I'm always open to being convinced of things.
 
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Herrera95

#65
There was bullying so the theme of wci is revenge. But Sanji still loves his family so he won't beat them. So the other way for him to get his revenge is through success which is by becoming yonko.
Not it is not revenge. Sanji is doing exactly the opposite. He is forgiving his family for what they did to him. And the family retributes that by giving him the raid suit.
 
#68
It stands for Zoro Killing Kaido. It's the theory that nearly every Zoro fan on worstgen believed so strongly that they flamed anyone who disagreed for two years. They thought Luffy was going to lose to Kaido and then Zoro would be the one to beat him.
I see...
You must've suffered for the last 2 years...
I feel for you and the Sane users here:risitasad:
 
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