Current Events Zoro and Shimotsuki: The Inherited Will
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You're scared cause the ryuma connection is making ZKK more likely, it's okay Ndule-kun ZKK can't get you
Zoro can be ryuma 2.0 and still not kill kaido
The only time I've been afraid was when Katakuri was really gonna taste defeat , even though it was a forced defeat ...I tried to deny it
ZKK is another BM will fall in WCI arc
Both got solid clues and forced points but at the end : Doesn't happen
Wait... Jus like Sanji ws gonna knock bm ou
You clowned luffy for being Joyboy w2.0 and sanji (who isn't even blessed by fate like Zoro) but accept what Oda doing with Zoro
This is why being a toxic fanboy is wrong
You summed it up pretty well, but the thread feels kind of incomplete. You didn't explain the details about what it means for Zoro to be a Shimotsuki. I mean it isn't just about ZKK. This thread has potential, Zoro's connection with Wano goes deeper than just him being Ryuma's xerox copy. I think you go into details about where this inherited will leads Zoro and what he is meant to do as the person inheriting their will. You can also explore more on how this relates to Zoro also inheriting Oden's will via Enma and the reason why Oden has so many similarities with Zoro.
As the title says, decided to focus this topic around Zoro and the Shimotsuki inherited will, so lets start 
Link between Zoro and the Shimotsuki
Oda revealed in an SBS that there was a link between Zoro's lineage and the Shimotsuki's from the Wano country
And the background around it was resolving around the fact that a former Wano citizen(Shimotsuki Kozaburo) left out to sea 55 years ago and founding the Shimotsuki village(the village Zoro grew in), teaching them the way of sword, as well as the word "Sunacchi", which is an important expression for a samurai when he wants to throw away his name and act like a child.
And in the chapter 1023, Kawamatsu brought up the fact that there was a reason he couldn't bring himself to stop Hiyori in giving Enma to Zoro, with Hyogoro understanding, noticing the similarity between Zoro and Shimotsuki Ushimaru, with Ryuma(another Shimotsuki, ancestor of Ushimaru) not only being also similar to him, but also being described as a one eye swordman
This basically further hinted to the possibility that Zoro's lineage was linked to the Shimotsuki
Inherited will
As mentioned above, there is a link between Zoro and the Shimotsuki brought up by Oda, but it appears to go even deeper than that
- Zoro created a bond with Shimotsuki Yasuie that pushed him to want to avenge his death
- It was mentioned during Yasuie's execution that the daimyo wanted to oppose Orochi / Kaido, but failed due to Kaido's strength
And among the daimyos in question was Shimotsuki Ushimaru's(Zoro's splitting image) who even after his defeat, never wanted to yield / bow down to Kaido
Onimaru was Shimotsuki Ushimaru's companion(and thus should have noticed the similarity between Zoro and his former master). It's likely then that he felt something with Zoro, hence his disappointment in realizing that Zoro was not understanding the true value of Shusui, a word that bothered Zoro
And Kawamatsu brought up the fact that Zoro coming to Wano, returning Shusui is fate
Indeed, the Wano citizens worship Ryuma as a god(God of the blade), to the point Onimaru literally linked the Wano tragedy to the robbery of Shusui incurring Ryuma's wrath
But with Shusui having returned where it belongs, they view it as a sign of hope, of Wano returning to it's former glory
Which should all lead to Zoro being perceived as a second coming to Ryuma, inheriting the Shimotsuki will
That's it for me, so feel free to discuss
Link between Zoro and the Shimotsuki
Oda revealed in an SBS that there was a link between Zoro's lineage and the Shimotsuki's from the Wano country
And the background around it was resolving around the fact that a former Wano citizen(Shimotsuki Kozaburo) left out to sea 55 years ago and founding the Shimotsuki village(the village Zoro grew in), teaching them the way of sword, as well as the word "Sunacchi", which is an important expression for a samurai when he wants to throw away his name and act like a child.
And in the chapter 1023, Kawamatsu brought up the fact that there was a reason he couldn't bring himself to stop Hiyori in giving Enma to Zoro, with Hyogoro understanding, noticing the similarity between Zoro and Shimotsuki Ushimaru, with Ryuma(another Shimotsuki, ancestor of Ushimaru) not only being also similar to him, but also being described as a one eye swordman
This basically further hinted to the possibility that Zoro's lineage was linked to the Shimotsuki
Inherited will
As mentioned above, there is a link between Zoro and the Shimotsuki brought up by Oda, but it appears to go even deeper than that
- Zoro created a bond with Shimotsuki Yasuie that pushed him to want to avenge his death
- It was mentioned during Yasuie's execution that the daimyo wanted to oppose Orochi / Kaido, but failed due to Kaido's strength
And among the daimyos in question was Shimotsuki Ushimaru's(Zoro's splitting image) who even after his defeat, never wanted to yield / bow down to Kaido
Onimaru was Shimotsuki Ushimaru's companion(and thus should have noticed the similarity between Zoro and his former master). It's likely then that he felt something with Zoro, hence his disappointment in realizing that Zoro was not understanding the true value of Shusui, a word that bothered Zoro
And Kawamatsu brought up the fact that Zoro coming to Wano, returning Shusui is fate
Indeed, the Wano citizens worship Ryuma as a god(God of the blade), to the point Onimaru literally linked the Wano tragedy to the robbery of Shusui incurring Ryuma's wrath
But with Shusui having returned where it belongs, they view it as a sign of hope, of Wano returning to it's former glory
Which should all lead to Zoro being perceived as a second coming to Ryuma, inheriting the Shimotsuki will
That's it for me, so feel free to discuss
that is the Only way to forge enma into blackblade by slicing kaidos Neck.
oda had to bring King vs Zoro for Ushimaru , Zoro, ryuma backstorys i guess also mastering enma Before the real battle with kaido
kaido still didnt recognize Zoro as the monster samurai this leads to Round two
Shimotsuki ushimaru fought with Kaido also Zoro going to fight him 1v1 same as now they both alike with topless, And it will be the time Kaido recognize Zoro as the new Monster samurai also Zoro as Someone related to Ushimaru
ZKK
@Bogard
you didnt drop your opinion on what that inherited will is
what exactly are you trying to say
parallel stuff is a bit annoying .
you didnt drop your opinion on what that inherited will is
what exactly are you trying to say
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The clone of Ryuma, Ushimaru and more
Zoro went from being unique to being another copy of his ancestors and having free PUs
Zoro went from being unique to being another copy of his ancestors and having free PUs
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Yeah evething settle with the theme of inherited will that is central in OP. Really like this connection of Zoro and the Shimotsuki.
Now just want to know what Zoro is from Ushimaru. Seems like a son. But how his mom get out of Wano? Probably Ushimaru send her to find protection under Kozaburo, that for sure is reallated with both Ushimaru and Yasuie, pehaps he is a older brother of Yasuie and Father of Ushimaru, what would make Yasuie Zoro uncle and Kuina his cousin.
We need a timeline with all those Shimotsuki ages.
Now just want to know what Zoro is from Ushimaru. Seems like a son. But how his mom get out of Wano? Probably Ushimaru send her to find protection under Kozaburo, that for sure is reallated with both Ushimaru and Yasuie, pehaps he is a older brother of Yasuie and Father of Ushimaru, what would make Yasuie Zoro uncle and Kuina his cousin.
We need a timeline with all those Shimotsuki ages.
And Zoro being the second coming of Ryuma is supposed to lead where? 
I dont get what is so hype / unhype this is. Some peole said this is the greatest thing ever for zoro, some other people said this ruins zoro's effort because he is from a powerfull family.
I just dont get it lmao. Id rather be preaching for ZKK
I remembered something being said about Ryuma being cautious about outsiders, but I couldn't find it where I thought it was. Either way, he actively perpetuated it with his fights, though that probably wasn't his main objective, and the vast majority of Wano holds isolationist beliefs and it has been their law since the void century, so him holding those beliefs wouldn't be surprising. He certainly didn't try to challenge them from what we know.
Zoro inherited oden s and ryumas will
Ushimaru state that he is nobody important and yet Zoro is moving to exactly the opposite way - he will become a legend (and of course the world strongest swordsman).
I really like the paradox of chapter 1024. Ushimaru Shimutzuki state that he is nobody important, the exact opposite of what Zoro want to achieve. This aspect is very interesting and we can say fate is moving in opposite way. Zoro is trying to restore the powerful name of the Shimutzuki when the previous Daimo abandon his role to represent it.
I really like this paradox, Zoro goal is that his name will become so important to reach even heaven, so far Zoro did a good job, he is state to be 1 of the pirate to lead the next generation with the top 5 in the rooftop. He is pretty infamous to the point that is mistake to be potentially the captain (of the strawhat). So in a way Zoro has to revenge his clan Shimutzuki and bring back to glory this old and powerful dynasty. How can Zoro revive the Shinutzuki clan? Well only someone like Ryume could do that, but like in chapter 1023 fate is with Zoro.