Powers & Abilities Zoro Ashura

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Nobody is downplaying G2/3, they are consistently bad in new world. Without G4, Luffy is not up to any serious task.
Can you imagine Zoro pulling Asura or even something greater for fodder like Ulti? I cant. Chinjao is the last guy where G3 was enough and he got spanked by Lao Geeee!

G2/G3 have been downgraded for Luffy to his base arsenal because he developed something much stronger by comparison. Ashura is still a finisher for Zoro.

Zoro busted out Sanzen Sekai to finish off Pica and that's his strongest Santoryu attack. Just goes to show that Three-sword style Zoro won't be able to hack it when it comes to high tiers and above.

And Ulti is far from being a fodder. She holds the third highest rank in a Yonko crew.

 

[HA001]

G2/G3 have been downgraded for Luffy to his base arsenal because he developed something much stronger by comparison. Ashura is still a finisher for Zoro.

Zoro busted out Sanzen Sekai to finish off Pica and that's his strongest Santoryu attack. Just goes to show that Three-sword style Zoro won't be able to hack it when it comes to high tiers and above.

And Ulti is far from being a fodder. She holds the third highest rank in a Yonko crew.

No sanzen sekai is not his strongest santoryu attack. He used a stronger one on the golem and no high tiers are tanking isds.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

No sanzen sekai is not his strongest santoryu attack. He used a stronger one on the golem and no high tiers are tanking isds.

ISDS is literally Sanzen Sekai with the added boost of being thrown by Orlumbus and the added slashes at the end. Go ahead and pull up both attacks and show me a difference in his set up and execution.

 

[HA001]

ISDS is literally Sanzen Sekai with the added boost of being thrown by Orlumbus and the added slashes at the end. Go ahead and pull up both attacks and show me a difference in his set up and execution.

The orlumbus boost is a hindrance not a help as he has to do the move against the wind resistence.
Its in the name.
Greater 3000 worlds
3000 worlds

You. DeY aRe DuH sAmE dOh.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

The orlumbus boost is a hindrance not a help as he has to do the move against the wind resistence.
Its in the name.
Greater 3000 worlds
3000 worlds

You. DeY aRe DuH sAmE dOh.

Again. Literally the only difference between ISDS and Sanzen Sekai is Zoro got thrown by Orlumbus, and there was extra slashes at the end.

And what do you mean it's a hinderance? If you get hit by a car going 5 MPH, and then hit by a car going 60 MPH, which one is going to do more damage? According to your logic, the car going 5 MPH, because at 60 MPH there is more wind resistance. :smithnie:

 

[HA001]

Again. Literally the only difference between ISDS and Sanzen Sekai is Zoro got thrown by Orlumbus, and there was extra slashes at the end.

And what do you mean it's a hinderance? If you get hit by a car going 5 MPH, and then hit by a car going 60 MPH, which one is going to do more damage? According to your logic, the car going 5 MPH, because at 60 MPH there is more wind resistance. :smithnie:

Lmfao its hilarious youre trying to act clever yet look completely retarded.
Look at the panels and see the force against zoros face he has to put more effort in just to lift his swords let alone do the move. Ergo hinderence.
Lmfao so zoro cant use isds without orlumbus now ?
Why has oda named one move 3000 worlds and another greater 3000 worlds if they are the same.

 

[Zenos7]

Again. Literally the only difference between ISDS and Sanzen Sekai is Zoro got thrown by Orlumbus, and there was extra slashes at the end.

And what do you mean it's a hinderance? If you get hit by a car going 5 MPH, and then hit by a car going 60 MPH, which one is going to do more damage? According to your logic, the car going 5 MPH, because at 60 MPH there is more wind resistance. :smithnie:

are the cars in your analogy performing attacks?

and what extra slashes are you referring to? the nameless shit thats clearly not part of isds? lol

 

[SinOfGreed]

Again. Literally the only difference between ISDS and Sanzen Sekai is Zoro got thrown by Orlumbus, and there was extra slashes at the end.

And what do you mean it's a hinderance? If you get hit by a car going 5 MPH, and then hit by a car going 60 MPH, which one is going to do more damage? According to your logic, the car going 5 MPH, because at 60 MPH there is more wind resistance. :smithnie:

He uses ISDS on his own in Stampede, literally just by running at the meteor. While the movie isn't canon, it shows us he doesn't need Orlumbus to use it.

Which means Sanzen Sekai and ISDS are two different moves with ISDS being the more powerful version. The fact that they're named differently makes that very obvious.
:smithnie:

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Lmfao its hilarious youre trying to act clever yet look completely retarded.
Look at the panels and see the force against zoros face he has to put more effort in just to lift his swords let alone do the move. Ergo hinderence.
Lmfao so zoro cant use isds without orlumbus now ?
Why has oda named one move 3000 worlds and another greater 3000 worlds if they are the same.

Let's play a little game called spot the difference.

Can you do it? Nope. Cause it's literally the same damn setup and execution for Sanzen Sekai.

are the cars in your analogy performing attacks?

and what extra slashes are you referring to? the nameless shit thats clearly not part of isds? lol

You ever drive down the highway at 60+ mph and stick your arm out the window? What's happens when the wind catches it? It jerks back pretty fast doesn't it? Now imagine Zoro travelling hundreds of MPH with his arms together, and at the end, pulls them apart. You don't think the wind resistance pulling his arms apart at an alarming rate is going to play any role in the force in which his attack hits?

 

[HA001]

Let's play a little game called spot the difference.

Can you do it? Nope. Cause it's literally the same damn setup and execution for Sanzen Sekai.



You ever drive down the highway at 60+ mph and stick your arm out the window? What's happens when the wind catches it? It jerks back pretty fast doesn't it? Now imagine Zoro travelling hundreds of MPH with his arms together, and at the end, pulls them apart. You don't think the wind resistance pulling his arms apart at an alarming rate is going to play any role in the force in which his attack hits?

Doesnt matter if the set up is the same. One hits much harder.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

He uses ISDS on his own in Stampede, literally just by running at the meteor. While the movie isn't canon, it shows us he doesn't need Orlumbus to use it.

Which means Sanzen Sekai and ISDS are two different moves with ISDS being the more powerful version. The fact that they're named differently makes that very obvious.
:smithnie:

Again, it's literally the same setup and execution as Sanzen Sekai. I don't take too much stock in what a non canon movie portrays. Now if he uses it again in the manga, then I'll gladly admit they are two different attacks. But until then, there is literally no do difference between the setup and execution for ISDS and Sanzen Sekai. None.

 

[HA001]

Again, it's literally the same setup and execution as Sanzen Sekai. I don't take too much stock in what a non canon movie portrays. Now if he uses it again in the manga, then I'll gladly admit they are two different attacks. But until then, there is literally no do difference between the setup and execution for ISDS and Sanzen Sekai. None.

So why has oda given them different names if they are the same ?

 

[Zenos7]

Let's play a little game called spot the difference.

Can you do it? Nope. Cause it's literally the same damn setup and execution for Sanzen Sekai.



You ever drive down the highway at 60+ mph and stick your arm out the window? What's happens when the wind catches it? It jerks back pretty fast doesn't it? Now imagine Zoro travelling hundreds of MPH with his arms together, and at the end, pulls them apart. You don't think the wind resistance pulling his arms apart at an alarming rate is going to play any role in the force in which his attack hits?

should be insignificant when talking about a superhuman character like zoro who already lifted tons for training pre-ts. but sure orlumbus added to the momentum, your analogy still is oversimplified for what @HA001 (3) said imo

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

should be insignificant when talking about a superhuman character like zoro who already lifted tons for training pre-ts. but sure orlumbus added to the momentum, your analogy still is oversimplified for what @HA001 (3) said imo

It should be even greater considering Zoro is a superhuman. Has Zoro ever ran so fast before performing an attack that his face is being pulled to the back of his skull? The dude travelled dozens of miles in like two seconds.

 

[SinOfGreed]

Again, it's literally the same setup and execution as Sanzen Sekai. I don't take too much stock in what a non canon movie portrays. Now if he uses it again in the manga, then I'll gladly admit they are two different attacks. But until then, there is literally no do difference between the setup and execution for ISDS and Sanzen Sekai. None.

Except the fact that they're still two different moves. It doesn't matter about setup or execution. Oda names them as two different moves and we clearly see the difference in power between them.

 

[HA001]

It should be even greater considering Zoro is a superhuman. Has Zoro ever ran so fast before performing an attack that his face is being pulled to the back of his skull? The dude travelled dozens of miles in like two seconds.

And how is that force helping him ? That force shown on his face is on all of his body and not only does he have to lift his arms up he has to spin them. So its a hinderence not a boost.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Let's play a little game called spot the difference.

Can you do it? Nope. Cause it's literally the same damn setup and execution for Sanzen Sekai.



You ever drive down the highway at 60+ mph and stick your arm out the window? What's happens when the wind catches it? It jerks back pretty fast doesn't it? Now imagine Zoro travelling hundreds of MPH with his arms together, and at the end, pulls them apart. You don't think the wind resistance pulling his arms apart at an alarming rate is going to play any role in the force in which his attack hits?

let's play a game :
one was called ISDS

the other called SS

you need glasses

- another thing VC highlighted ISDS feat and never claimed orlumbus having a direct effect in its power

And you got destroyed with your headcanons

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

And how is that force helping him ? That force shown on his face is on all of his body and not only does he have to lift his arms up he has to spin them. So its a hinderence not a boost.

Yes, we are given a visual representation of just how fast Zoro was travelling. He made it from Flower Hill to the Old King's Plateau in the blink of an eye. Speed = Weight.

 

[HA001]

Yes, we are given a visual representation of just how fast Zoro was travelling. He made it from Flower Hill to the Old King's Plateau in the blink of an eye. Speed = Weight.

And the weight is pushing against him hence his face is being pulled back. And that force is on all of his body. So once again its a hinderence.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

let's play a game :
one was called ISDS

the other called SS

you need glasses

- another thing VC highlighted ISDS feat and never claimed orlumbus having a direct effect in its power

And you got destroyed with your headcanons

And still not one person can tell me the difference between the setup and execution between the two attacks. One is stronger than the other, and Orlumbus' attributed to that. Come back and quote me when Zoro uses the stronger version of Sanzen Sekai without outside help.

:cheers:

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And the weight is pushing against him hence his face is being pulled back. And that force is on all of his body. So once again its a hinderence.

Just because the wind is pushing against him, it does not negate the speed in which he is travelling, and the force it attributes to his attack.