Break Week Zoro did in fact show everything he learnt/mastered from TS

#83
Did you comapte ISDS to that attack?

Zoro had nothing left to show outside of Ashura whi has been forgotten by Oda
Thats why he got enma...to boost his attacks even more and got kinnemon cutting skills

Current Zoro : can cut fire and has enma
Pre enma : has shown everything
Ashura is yet to be shown...if he doesn't then ids is Zoro's ultimate finisher

Their best /ultimate finishers will be :
ISDS and Sanzen sekai for Zoro
KKG and KC for Luffy
HM for Sanji
No.... Zoro has not gone all out, It's not even just Ashura..... Theres multiple techniques from Zoro we haven't seen Post Timeskip. The whole Gorilla form Zoro uses hasn't been shown, Did you know Oni Giri has two versions? This ones most likely stronger than regular One Giri. Theres also the Attack he used on Ryuma that caused his wound to flame up, We haven't seen the full extent of what Zoro can do, These Attacks translated into post time skip could be devastating.
 
#87
Actually want to enjoy this. :catpole:

Since fans said the same about Sanji when he got RS i feel i should let you troll Z fans. :yasu:

But i am too busy to come visit this thread again to drop my opinion. So here it is.

Same for Z same for S, for both i dont think they have shown everything. Maybe more of SHs, Oda hasn't allowed them to go all in proper fight yet, Wano is where they will for first time post ts unlike Luffy.

Also, about Zoro Ashura it is bound to make a comeback. It's his iconic technique like Luffy gears and Sanji DJ, no way it won't.
 
J

Jo_Ndule

#89
Shown everything doesn't mean they have to battle an extreme battle

You can be shown at your limits and using your best attacks without fighting a hard battle

No writer hands PUs and trainings if the character didn't show everything they had /mastered from their Timeskip
 
#91
Lots of Zoro's techniques are situational not hierarchical.
His new Asura moves coming out of the skip would not have been a power boost when compared to the ISDS especially when used as an AoE attack.
Anything he does in this Kaido fight is after a big training boost and not his time skip level, Zoro explicitly said strawhats get stronger each arc, and was given a specific training arc to be where he needs to be for this fight.
 
#92
Lots of Zoro's techniques are situational not hierarchical.
His new Asura moves coming out of the skip would not have been a power boost when compared to the ISDS especially when used as an AoE attack.
Anything he does in this Kaido fight is after a big training boost and not his time skip level, Zoro explicitly said strawhats get stronger each arc, and was given a specific training arc to be where he needs to be for this fight.
They get stronger every island because all of them usually have to go all out, which was the case Pre-TS. Post-TS not so much, and Enma is only useful for improving Zoro's Haki Flow, or Ryou. Every other stat's fair game to give to SoTS Zoro imo.
 
#93
They get stronger every island because all of them usually have to go all out, which was the case Pre-TS. Post-TS not so much, and Enma is only useful for improving Zoro's Haki Flow, or Ryou. Every other stat's fair game to give to SoTS Zoro imo.
Zoro knows a war has been coming but has not been training in all the time he has been in Wano, and only trained CoA because he wanted to play with his new sword seems legit.
 
#94
Zoro knows a war has been coming but has not been training in all the time he has been in Wano, and only trained CoA because he wanted to play with his new sword seems legit.
Training don't mean much of anything in most mangas. Zoro's training is just there to show how dedicated Zoro is to the craft. That shit isn't nudging him any higher, especially not in the New World.
 
#95
I said it and will keep saying it,
sure. you can do that.
contrary to your believe, this still will not make it true.
If you say Zoro didn't go all out or held back...
You are lying coz he is serious whenever he puts the bandana.
you prove once against that you have absolutely no idea about how Enma works or what is required to use it.
Zoro NEEDS TO HOLD BACK. its a requirement or else Enma drains him dry. thats the point of the sword.
instead of forcing out ryou you have to forcefully hold it back. you are hung up on semantics here.

good point with the bandana. I agree.
Zoro wanted to cut Kaido for real.
the problem was he is still not in complete control of Enma. he held back TOO MUCH.
other than expected by Kinemon Zoro is able to use Enma without straight up dying. that does not mean Zoro has full control yet.
its something I dislike about that exchange, but it is what it is. imo Zoro should be able to use it properly by now after he explicitely trained with it. thats another issue entirely though.
compare that scene with Daz Bones. "bandana on" does not mean that Zoro can unleash any hard to master ability at will.
the bandana only means hes serious, not that hes omnipotent when he wears it.
He's relying on Enma not haki!!
his Rengoku Onigiri vs Killer was more powerful than the one he did vs Kaido.
if he "relied" on Enma this would not be the case.

you may also want to look up the word "excessive" in the dictionary. also "unnecessarily" while you are at it.
 
#98
He used the ougi against the kraken too so did he go all out in FI
Ok, so if Zoro used Asura for one attack, you'd say he was going all out? Did Luffy go all out against the Fodder Ship because he used the same attack he;s using on Kaido? All out is when you use a wide variety of moves. Zoro showed off a lot of them. And then he ran through his options left vs Pica in the chapter Zoro vs Pica. If he had a more powerful Asura, why not Asura and 1080x9 Calibre Phoenix or whatever. Why not 9 Sword Style obliterate the Golem instead of relying on the King punch? Literally what does Asura do here that is simultaneously better than ISDS but weaker than King Punch?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#99
Ok, so if Zoro used Asura for one attack, you'd say he was going all out? Did Luffy go all out against the Fodder Ship because he used the same attack he;s using on Kaido? All out is when you use a wide variety of moves. Zoro showed off a lot of them. And then he ran through his options left vs Pica in the chapter Zoro vs Pica. If he had a more powerful Asura, why not Asura and 1080x9 Calibre Phoenix or whatever. Why not 9 Sword Style obliterate the Golem instead of relying on the King punch? Literally what does Asura do here that is simultaneously better than ISDS but weaker than King Punch?
Wouldnt g4 break the Noah faster than g3 ? Stop saying dumb shit.
 
Ok, so if Zoro used Asura for one attack, you'd say he was going all out? Did Luffy go all out against the Fodder Ship because he used the same attack he;s using on Kaido? All out is when you use a wide variety of moves. Zoro showed off a lot of them. And then he ran through his options left vs Pica in the chapter Zoro vs Pica. If he had a more powerful Asura, why not Asura and 1080x9 Calibre Phoenix or whatever. Why not 9 Sword Style obliterate the Golem instead of relying on the King punch? Literally what does Asura do here that is simultaneously better than ISDS but weaker than King Punch?
Did Luffy become PK level after he revealed G4 in Dressosa. Isn't that your logic?
 
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