Character Discussion Zoro does kill on panel. Proof and Evidence.
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scuppered = kill?
thats desperate
You dont know exactly what hes saying.
youre literally assuming even though you dont know, The only things we know are
1. We have the viz translation which says he killed
2. In the viz version the word kill only written once. In the raw the word kill only written once at least. So it adds up
3. Viz translation > Your translation. And its not even close
At this point you are just denying obvious facts because it doesnt suit you agenda which is honestly kinda sad.
You make people go through effort to give you all the proof in the world and you still refuse to admit. Oda himself could tell you Zoro does kill on panel and you would tell him no.
thats desperate
You dont know exactly what hes saying.
youre literally assuming even though you dont know, The only things we know are
1. We have the viz translation which says he killed
2. In the viz version the word kill only written once. In the raw the word kill only written once at least. So it adds up
3. Viz translation > Your translation. And its not even close
At this point you are just denying obvious facts because it doesnt suit you agenda which is honestly kinda sad.
You make people go through effort to give you all the proof in the world and you still refuse to admit. Oda himself could tell you Zoro does kill on panel and you would tell him no.
scuppered = kill?
thats desperate
You dont know exactly what hes saying.
youre literally assuming even though you dont know, The only things we know are
1. We have the viz translation which says he killed
2. In the viz version the word kill only written once. In the raw the word kill only written once at least. So it adds up
3. Viz translation > Your translation. And its not even close
At this point you are just denying obvious facts because it doesnt suit you agenda which is honestly kinda sad.
You make people go through effort to give you all the proof in the world and you still refuse to admit. Oda himself could tell you Zoro does kill on panel and you would tell him no.
thats desperate
You dont know exactly what hes saying.
youre literally assuming even though you dont know, The only things we know are
1. We have the viz translation which says he killed
2. In the viz version the word kill only written once. In the raw the word kill only written once at least. So it adds up
3. Viz translation > Your translation. And its not even close
At this point you are just denying obvious facts because it doesnt suit you agenda which is honestly kinda sad.
You make people go through effort to give you all the proof in the world and you still refuse to admit. Oda himself could tell you Zoro does kill on panel and you would tell him no.
It's stylized dialogue, as is Hacchi's original Japanese dialogue being somewhat effected due to his low IQ.
You are ignoring there are two sentences the second one is relating to HACHI's ACTIONS (ore ga) and THAT is the one that uses Korosu.
This is my last post about this bit of dialogue unless someone who knows Japanese explains the word indicating "kill" in the FIRST sentence.
I guess this discussion came up cause i said i cant believe Zoro is killing Kaido.
But my argument never was he hasnt killed before or wasnt able to kill. But my argument was, if Luffy decides not to kill, what he has done always before and Oda stated Luffy wont kill, Zoro wont step above Luffys decision. Thats why Zoro will never kill a main antagonist.
But my argument never was he hasnt killed before or wasnt able to kill. But my argument was, if Luffy decides not to kill, what he has done always before and Oda stated Luffy wont kill, Zoro wont step above Luffys decision. Thats why Zoro will never kill a main antagonist.
No, it wasnt , It was because alot of people(including you) believe that zoro wouldnt kill because its not in the nature of the straw hats.
But point still stands, Why would luffy stop him from killing kaido if he never showed that he doesnt like Zoro killing when Zoro killed multiple times, Luffy never stopped Zoro from killing. Unless you think that Luffy is ok with Zoro killing hundreds of fodder. But is not okay with Zoro killing kaido who is much more evil and dangerous?
Luffy never cared if Zoro kills, Unless you can disprove this claim then it stands.
Obviously if theoretically speaking luffy stops him then sure he wouldnt kill. But what if Zoro had to kill him? Luffy wouldnt stop him.
But point still stands, Why would luffy stop him from killing kaido if he never showed that he doesnt like Zoro killing when Zoro killed multiple times, Luffy never stopped Zoro from killing. Unless you think that Luffy is ok with Zoro killing hundreds of fodder. But is not okay with Zoro killing kaido who is much more evil and dangerous?
Luffy never cared if Zoro kills, Unless you can disprove this claim then it stands.
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Obviously if theoretically speaking luffy stops him then sure he wouldnt kill. But what if Zoro had to kill him? Luffy wouldnt stop him.
I never (!) stated thats in the nature of every straw hat, i said it is always the decision of Luffy. And Luffys decision will always count more to Zoro than his own, cause Zoro demoted himself to Luffy. Luffys goal is the most important for all of the strawhats and bring him there is their main goal too.
Luffy is the captain, if the captain brings up a decision, the crew follows that decision. And Luffys decision was always not to kill his main enemy. He never killed them and never wanted to.
And at the end of the day, Kaido, while the antagonist for all 5, Luffy counts higher in this battle then Zoro does, not only for us readers, but also for Zoro himself, cause Luffy is his captain.
Zoro is not taking a step there, which Luffy isnt willing too.
Luffy is the captain, if the captain brings up a decision, the crew follows that decision. And Luffys decision was always not to kill his main enemy. He never killed them and never wanted to.
And at the end of the day, Kaido, while the antagonist for all 5, Luffy counts higher in this battle then Zoro does, not only for us readers, but also for Zoro himself, cause Luffy is his captain.
Zoro is not taking a step there, which Luffy isnt willing too.