Powers & Abilities Zoro is holding back then

#62
Then you need to prove Zoro didn't use haki then? How are you going to prove it?
And don't tell me Oda will not let Zoro attack with that and do no damage, that's no proof as I and you don't know what Oda thinks or not.
The comment with Enma is the proof. The only thing Unleashing Enma means is unleashing his own haki because the only thing Enma does differently is the Haki stuff

I’ve given you the explicit reasoning for why Zoro didn’t start off with Haki right away and why it even matters that he’s talking about Enma at all.

So well end it there. Next chapter Oda will make it EXPLICIT Ryou because the sword will be black and Enma will affect him and then this will be done
 
#63
Except Zoro doesn’t fight like that. The last time he used unbalanced power on a three sword technique, IT FAILED
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@Monkey D Luffy Enma’s power is his power. Remember it’s just his haki
Did he say ''I should use my haki more '' or did he say '' I should use Enma'a power more''?

Accept Enma's power now. It's funny now that you don't accept it despite the manga.
 
#64
The comment with Enma is the proof. The only thing Unleashing Enma means is unleashing his own haki because the only thing Enma does differently is the Haki stuff

I’ve given you the explicit reasoning for why Zoro didn’t start off with Haki right away and why it even matters that he’s talking about Enma at all.

So well end it there. Next chapter Oda will make it EXPLICIT Ryou because the sword will be black and Enma will affect him and then this will be done
A definite proof is a character statement or panel proof not what you or I personally think based on how a character usually behaves.

Zoro didn't say he used Haki or not and his statement on Enma doesn't disprove anything,you are just interpreting it your own special way and reaching conclusions based on nothing really evident from Zoro's line.

Like i said,just wait next couple of chapters for real proof/confirmation pal.

I'm out of this thread, I've already given what I think.
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#66
Zoro already Ryou do you Enma just comes with ryou or stored Odens ryou.
BOAT=Ryou
Koushiro speech

Hyou speech


Plus there is no proof Enma can do anything other than take the users ryou

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How come you run from what Hitetsu, the master swordsmith who created Ame no Habikiri and Sandai kitetsu, says in the manga

It's funny now that you don't accept it despite the manga.
What?
 
#67
What dont you understand Enma doesnt give ryou it's just your headcanon with no basis in canon
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Did he say ''I should use my haki more '' or did he say '' I should use Enma'a power more''?

Accept Enma's power now. It's funny now that you don't accept it despite the manga.
How come you run from what Hitetsu, the master swordsmith who created Ame no Habikiri and Sandai kitetsu, says in the manga

It's funny now that you don't accept it despite the manga.
And if Enma has it's own power what is it
 
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#73
Lemme explain it to you piece by piece
That "special" Haki we all call Ryou needs practice and skill to use. Zoro doesn't have that so to compesate that Oda gave him Emna that pulls that "special" Haki without Zoro having skill or ability to do so
Ok let me it to you piece by piece
Zoro already has ryou Emma pulls out armament and haki not ryou hitetsu only said ryou because the only name the wanoese know
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#76
Ok I’ll explain again Ryou is just what people in Wano call haki Emma just drains haki.l not ryou
I am 99 sure we talk about same thing but the terminology is fucking us

All i am saying is Emna pulls the special haki from Zoro without Zoro needing to know how to do it. Hence why Emna is so destructive in its power compared to other swords Zoro has
 
#78
I am 99 sure we talk about same thing but the terminology is fucking us

All i am saying is Emna pulls the special haki from Zoro without Zoro needing to know how to do it. Hence why Emna is so destructive in its power compared to other swords Zoro has
Lets refer to “ryou” as adv CoA for now. Hitetsu doesn’t know the word “Haki” in Wano haki in general is called “Ryou” So when Hitetsu says “Emma drains the wielders Ryou” he means “Emma drains the wielders Haki”

Ok now that I explained Emma doesn’t bring out adv CoA you might Wonder how Zoro hurt Kaido in the latest chapter then


Well the truth is Zoro has had Adv CoA since Albasta. This might come as a surprise but I’ll explain Zoro cut Dax bones with something called the “breath of all things” This was shown through Flashback of Zoro teacher Koushiro.
This Koushiros speech on BOAT

Here is Hyous speech on adv CoA

Sound similar right with “cant cut paper but cut iron” and the “can’t cut anything but cut iron”
But you might be wondering how Koushiro from the east blur knows about a Wano technique well the thing is Koushiro is the son of the man who made Emma shimotsuki Kozaburo


zoro even met Koushiro
From the SBS

D: Odacchi!! A question!! Several characters have appeared with the name Shimotsuki, including Shimotsuki Yasuie, Shimotsuki Ryuma, Shimotsuki Kozaburo and Shimotsuki Ushimaru, but is there a connection with the place Zoro grew up in that bears that exact name, Shimotsuki Village, and Zoro’s teacher Koushirou?
So given how Zoro said he was taught the term “Sunacchi” by a geezer in his village and how in Volume 92’s SBS you revealed how some came to the East Blue, it’s starting to make sense! P.N. Yu-kun




Oda: Ah, yes. You might have to follow very closely to picture this, but…let me explain! It all starts with Shimotsuki Kozaburo (swordsmith and swordsman)

1-He forges the “Enma” and bestows it to the heir of the Kozuki Family, Oden.

2-55 years ago, he sets out to sea!
3-He and the samurai of Wano have a grand adventure!!
4-They make landfall in a certain place in the East Blue.

5-They save the locals from mountain bandits.
6-They teach the villagers the way of the sword, who become enamored with swordplay.
7-They decide to settle there, founding Shimotsuki Village.

8-His son, Koushirou, is born.
9-His granddaughter, Kuina, is born.

To put it in other words, who Zoro meant by “a geezer in his village” that he met was actually grandpa Shimotsuki Kozaburo-san himself, who comes from the Wano Country. Oh? Then could that mean…Zoro’s lineage…?! Well, the story of Shimotsuki Kozaburo, the samurai who founded Shimotsuki Village, is all I’m willing to share today!

So that’s how Zoro know adv CoA
 
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#79
Without Enma, Zoro can never use Advanced Armament.:suresure:

OT: Zoro put on his bandana which shows that he's serious and somehow still didn't scratch Kaido at all.:josad:He better put some more effort next time.:endthis:
 
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