Powers & Abilities Zoro is not a samurai so he won’t fight Kaido

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He wields Enma and the parallel with Oden is crystal clear, that is already plenty of enough either we talk about Samurai or not, so if you put it this way or better by this logic, Zoro is 100% going to face as well as defeat Kaido.

There's no other option considering how Luffy should go up against Big Mom.

Also Kaido keeps mentioning how the Scabbards can't open his wound, this means that Oda wants someone to do it again. Guess who it will be......
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#42
The trolls are out. Let's have some fun.

You're confusing Zoro for Luffy. Luffy what's the one who fainted from starving alone. Zoro requires poisonous food, follow up by starving, follow up by injury for him to fall. Luffy fell and almost died just from eating one poisonous fish. Magellen and had to spend 12 hours on the toilet a day from eating poisonous food.

People need to get on Zoro's level.

Comparing current Zoro to Oden in any way shape or form is pure fucking stupidity.

Zoro is much closer to Denjiro, who couldn't do anything.



In fact we have 0 proof he IS stronger than Denjiro.
Denjiro couldn't do anything to an injured Zoro. That's why he couldn't beat Zoro. Instead, his subordinates told us that Zoro was holding his own against him.

Oden is weaker than Mihawk and not near his level.

Everything about Zoro's character is meant to represent a samurai. His swordsmamship style comes from Wano, his teacher is a Wano descendant, all through his current swords were forge by blacksmiths from Wano. Even the data book as hinted at Zoro himself might be a descendant from.

The following scene makes it very clear that Zoro will kill and take Kaido's head. Ashura stated that Kaido won't be beat until they literally take his head.


Zoro is the only one strong enough to do that and at Oden level.

When Zoro cut Pica he wasn't using his haki to increase the strength of his attack. Yes, it will naturally make his attack stronger but that wasn't the main reason for using it. He was using it to make sure his swords didn't break. The was the purpose of the flashback. Now, we have seen a small taste of his haki power when he casually cut off a coastline using little strength from a seated position.
 
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@critical mindset I remember when you were gettting clowned on NF for posting long ass essays which you probably put a lot of thought into, following constant rejection have you succumb to being a troll?
Clowned, you mean babies posting things like “TLDR” (now I remember you from there btw) including you.

I was well liked at NF with my theories and posts and yes I have more than dozens of theories to my name.
 
#53
Oden was Yonko level and could rival Mihawk. Saying Zoro will do anything at this moment is fucking stupid. Imagine Mihawk panting/sweating while struggling against random fodder.

The main dudes of this arc are Luffy, Law and Kid. This entire thing was Law's plan from the get go. He knew Onigashima better than the Samurai.
Why does Zoro have the second most panel time then
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At this point injuring Kaido is nothing bcs Scarabs already did it
Someone clearly didn’t read the last 2 chapters
 
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#54
You're confusing Zoro for Luffy. Luffy what's the one who fainted from starving alone. Zoro requires poisonous food, follow up by starving, follow up by injury for him to fall. Luffy fell and almost died just from eating one poisonous fish. Magellen and had to spend 12 hours on the toilet a day from eating poisonous food.
The fish Luffy ate could down a giant from just one bite, and Luffy ate the whole fish. That’s the difference. (Killer also ate the same poisonous unless you think he went to fancy diners in Wano’s capitol)

Luffy took DJ hits prior. Zoro would be KOd from one DJ to the head. It would scorch his maladapted brain so much that the cortex responsible for sense of direction might get a fix

Vergo however is still stuck with false memory because Sanji could barley even hurt him
 
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#56
Luffy Law Kidd aren't samurai either
They will not fight Kaido
No, they’re just top supernovas with major abilities and highlights. The scabbards are not all proper samurai either like Oden, but at least they got history with Kaido so even pathetic shits like Kiki and Raizo get to fight him. Zoro is not anything special at this point to go up against Kaido. He is fighting “elite gifters” that mock his ass. He is no Oden
 
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#57
Don’t tell us you think vergo has a bigger chance of fighting kaido than zoro

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No. But...

Now that we know Kinnemon can cut and hurt Kaido with Homura Saki (the flame splitter attack), we need to revamp our understanding of the power standings in this verse yet again in favour of Vergo

Here the smaller dragon is said to be stronger than the bigger one Zoro defeated


such that it requires Kinnemon’s strongest attack with the help of Brook’s most lethal attack to take it down (while again he just used Homura Saki to damage Kaido)


But the very same Dragon that was wreaking havoc and being on the warpath against the strawhats (in fact wanting to eat them all) that same dragon started packing as soon as he sees Vergo


which means Vergo will have no problem damaging Kaido
 
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The fish Luffy ate could down a giant from just one bite, and Luffy ate the whole fish. That’s the difference. (Killer also ate the same poisonous unless you think he went to fancy diners in Wano’s capitol)

Luffy took DJ hits prior. Zoro would be KOd from one DJ to the head. It would scorch his maladapted brain so much that the cortex responsible for sense of direction might get a fix

Vergo however is still stuck with false memory because Sanji could barley even hurt him
Luffy ate one poisonous fish. Zoro ate nothing but poisonous food from the time he arrived until he was told the food was poisonous because of the poisonous water.

Killer never ate poisonous food. He ate a bad artificial DF. There's a difference.

So you are comparing a rubber body, that is harder to damage, to a normal body. Ok, Zoro took scythe to the chest and the stop Killer from pulling it out just by flexing. Luffy would not be able to do the same.

PS: Zoro cut a larger dragon. That makes a difference. Just because I can bent a small thin piece of steel doesn't mean I can bent a larger thicker piece of iron.

When did Vergo cut a dragon. All we know he could have hit it with a gas bomb that causes it to become docile.
 
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Zoro took scythe to the chest
He took it to the fucking shoulder, not the chest lol
Zoro ate nothing but poisonous food from the time he arrived until he was told the food was poisonous because of the poisonous water.
No, only from the time that he became a nationally recognised criminal, and that is portrayed as relatively recently compared to when the strawhats arrived. Franky had already gotten a position as a carpenter, Robin a geisha, etc. Strawhats were arriving by the time Zoro had become a criminal.

Again another headcannon (or misguided information) that nevertheless gets likes from @nik87 who knows all this stuff by heart because all he reads is Zoro-piece, but he just doesn’t care to correct facts because he is a dishonest loser with no bushido. Complete hooligan trash fandom is what Zoro fandom is
 
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No, they’re just top supernovas with major abilities and highlights. The scabbards are not all proper samurai either like Oden, but at least they got history with Kaido so even pathetic shits like Kiki and Raizo get to fight him. Zoro is not anything special at this point to go up against Kaido. He is fighting “elite gifters” that mock his ass. He is no Oden
Who will Zoro fight then ?
 
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