Future Events Zoro vs Mihawk/Shiryu EoS is still needed?

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#83
Zoro is meant to overturn several swordsmen before becoming WSS. I would put one between King and Fujitora too into the pot, we will see. The only question is whether or not Shiryu will be his last fight and I sincerely hope not.

Having Mihawk as last barrier would be way more efficient to the very plot regarding Zoro's goal.
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
#84
no, zoro kill/beheaded kaido will outshine luffy and thats bad writing
I see you've changed the quote.


Like many have already said, Zoro has downright looked better in some case so it wouldn't even be the first time, especially at Thriller back with the nothing happened scence.

Also how can it be "bad writing" when Oda sets up a whole arc to parrellel Zoro with Oden and Ryuma, with countless hints along the way? How can it be "bad writing" if it has so much foreshadowing going into the final phase of the arc?
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Why aren't you actually answering his questions?
Ask him that not me bro lol.
 
#85
I see you've changed the quote.


Like many have already said, Zoro has downright looked better in some case so it wouldn't even be the first time, especially at Thriller back with the nothing happened scence.

Also how can it be "bad writing" when Oda sets up a whole arc to parrellel Zoro with Oden and Ryuma, with countless hints along the way? How can it be "bad writing" if it has so much foreshadowing going into the final phase of the arc?
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Ask him that not me bro lol.
I ment to ask him. Sorry lol
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You didn't answer his question
 
#86
Mihawk's greatest ability is his hawkeye vision.

To counter this ability you need to use invisibility which is why Shiryu only wanted this and he steal it from Absalom. Everyone was wondering when he could have logia powers why he took invisibility? It's because to counter only Mihawk's special heightened vision ability.

Also consider this, why now they demolished the Shichibukai? It could wait a little longer, but why now? Why now Shanks went to Gorousei to complain about Blackbeard and why Mihawk lost his title at the same time?

What will be Blackbeard's and Shiryu's biggest accomplishment before the final battle? It can't be just defeating Marco. You need someone bigger. It should be Shanks and Shanks's crew where Mihawk will join.

Mihawk will die against Shiryu, no need to worry about that. You can't expect Blackbeard pirates to do nothing while Strawhats are doing incredible things.
 
#89
Before the Final battle;
You can't hype Shiryu if he doesn't kill Mihawk

-Blackbeard defeats 2 Yonko; Whitebeard and Shanks.

-Luffy defeats 2 Yonko; Kaido and Big Mom.

They will meet at the top. Everything will be equal.
Shiryu gonna kill Shanks and he will try to do it again against Mihawk but ... he will get neg-diffed by the One and Only WSS who sits at the Top of the World ALONE !

Then Shiryu will have 1 Yonko killed (Shanks) against Zoro who will have 1 Yonko killed (Kaido). "Everything will be equal"
 
#90
if it dehypes it for you personally say so
its a question of how high you rate mihawk.
for me it dehypes nothing.


its the same issue with people who think akainu cant be an eos villain after luffy defeats kaido or possibly even BB.
with this logic after luffy defeats kaido his next fights will be dehyped as well. it will become clear to some of you that mihawk whether you thin he is > shanks or < is definitively as top tier character because zoro would accomplish a lot more than blokes think before he dreams of catching him.
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why i've never heard SKK (Supernova Kill Kaido) then? why am i always hear ZKK all the time?
then start skk
you believe what you want to believe lol.
 
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#91
Ummm Shiryu would just another Swordman.

Mihawk is needed frankly ,like this whole building for nothing would be lame.
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OP world will remember him as the dude who killed kaido. It's not about team or solo.

Zoro vs mihawk would be even more pointless coz it won't add much to zoro's fame if he kills kaido
I think it hypes Mihawk ..

:giogio:
 
#93
If Zoro kills/beheaded Kaido in this arc, does Zoro vs Mihawk/Shiryu is still needed?
because by logic, killing/beheaded Kaido "dehyped" the fight of Zoro vs Mihawk/Shiryu EoS



@playa4321 @Jo_Ndule @Seth @Kaido D. Stronger @Buusatan94 @Paperchampion23 @Bounty etc..
Zoro won't. It will be perma scar like Oden did at best. Zoro will get the Kaidou to ground and out of Dragon form, Luffy is Beating Kaidou in the end.

For Zoro to Kill Kaidou, Luffy needs to perform a feat even better than that in Wano. In that scenario, same question could be asked about Luffy.
All his fights bar Im Sama will loose hype if he outdo something like even Killing Kaidou. Hence it can't happen. Luffy will beat Kaidou with lot help, ass plot reasons.

Anyway Yes if Zoro really manage to kill Kaidou, No will be hyped for Zoro vs Shiryu. Fans already wants more from Zoro than just beating King at this stage when he barely beaten anyone at YC tier. How will they be content with Shiryuu who then will feel like Pica 2.0?
Shiryuu is one of the major fights of Zoro, it needs to be more than just relying on Invisibility to be a challenge for Zoro. It will be awesome if this is just one factor of the battle and his swordmanship/ other skills also pose a good threat to Zoro.

If Zoro Kills Kaidou Oda needs to hype Shiryuu to another lvl/solid Top Tier. I won't say that's impossible but probably is redundant as SHs are also likely to face Admirals.

You guys having such big expectations, i am still on Z n S taking help to beat King n Queen solo in the end, lmao.
 
#94
Being the WSS is about skill so even if he killed Kaido it would not make him the WSS. He would need to beat the BEST SKILLED Swordman.
wss is about being the strongest not the most skilled .lol
spell out what wss is and it becomes clear
this should help

it wouldnt dehype anything if zoro plays a part in taking kaido down
because mihawk is a top tier and kaido wont be taken down solo.
 
J

Jo_Ndule

#96
One Piece is not a feat’s dictionary, it is a story where narrative and symbolism are far more important than the « amount of feat ».

You guys should really really take a break from the fan wars because it totally destroy how you read the manga.
Then oda wouldn't be hyping feats
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Why do you keep saying outshine MC feats. The thrillerbark moment did that and is still regarded has one of the best anime/Manga panel. So why do you keep repeating this
The world doesn't even hype zoro for doing that
And oda doesn't hype it as a better feat than Luffy beating Moriah

Since when has zoro had a bigger impact/feat in an arc han Luffy? That the world of OP wank more than what luffy did in that arc
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Being the WSS is about skill so even if he killed Kaido it would not make him the WSS. He would need to beat the BEST SKILLED Swordman.
Cutting the golem made him wss candidate

You think he needs to beat Mihaek to be wss? He doesn't need it
He just need to do something greater than what mihawk has ever done.
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His aim is to become world's strongest swordsman, doesn't matter if he kills kaido or what. He still ain't recognised as the strongest until defeating mihawk
Wrong
 
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#97
If Zoro fighted King, his fight against his long lost brother Shiliew would be repetitive. Another reason why Zoro vs King won't happen :cheers:

Everyone is cutting Kaido, at this point it isn't even a feat. Kiku passed his hand :whitepress:
Zoro can go through his heart if Luffy defeats him :goyea:
4 YC characters couldn't open Kaido's wound. If someone does so that's an admiral lvl feat.
Kaido too stronk
 
#98
greatest ability is his hawkeye vision.

To counter this ability you need to use invisibility which is why Shiryu only wanted this and he steal it from Absalom. Everyone was wondering when he could have logia powers why he took invisibility? It's because to counter only Mihawk's special heightened vision ability
Atleast you admit Mihawk's COO is incredible but why would invisibility necessarily counter it?

If even Mihawk's Hawk eyes can't counter Shiryu's invisibility, how the hell will Zoro counter it? His scarred eye can never be enough if Mihawk's Hawk eyes couldn't.
 
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