Future Events Zoro vs Smoothie might be better

who will be strong enough on the "female" side to take on Smoothie/Campote?
Either she gets tag teamed or she doesn't even lose.

This is a war, not an Ennies Lobby style assault. The Enemy can lose without every dingle person on the enemy side getting whooped. Same way the whitebeard pirates lost without all of them getting beaten

Smoothie could very easily jot get beaten at all. I mean she's beautiful women so that already reduces her chances if getting pummeled like a man would. And she's generally useless so there's no need to beat her
 
in zoan mode, when he flies to fight bm he doesn't have his sword anymore. what kind of swordman Leaves sword behind
And he just use his body to push it back instead of using his blade in the manga. He could do like Zoro, but instead he did something that is more Sanji-like of fighting, so feel like we might have Sky Battle with Sanji vs King from the looks of it more.
 
in zoan mode, when he flies to fight bm he doesn't have his sword anymore. what kind of swordman Leaves sword behind
How do you know he doesn't have his sword? Oda does this random cartoon physics all the time.

Jack summons his swords when moving from Zoan to human form. Kaido summons his club moving from dragon form to human.

We've seen Oda do this shit when he doesn't want to draw weapons on the Zoan forms of these guys.
 
It would be better for Smoothie definitely.

Plot wise it will make her show all her abilities if she fights with Zoro .

If she fights someone who is not a SHs we migth not see her abilities completely detailed.

So many here wonder how Zoro will beat King well let's make Zoro beat Smoothie and then King so he can grow :few:
Wait so Zoro is gonna fight both king and smoothie now?

What the hell is everyone else doing?
 
Either way if zoro never fights a strong female swordwomen that would be a humongous missed opportunity tbh
Well unless Kuina was right. I mean we are 1000 chapters into this manga and it's literally a fact that women just aren't as strong as men in this universe.

Maybe Oda has been planning this all along, to hammer home the fact that if you aren't genetically a freak of nature or have hax df, having a vagina immediately makes you weaker than a penis
 
The part about Hawkins is also one of the reasons I think Marines and other parties are coming... Luffy is bound to be in BAD CONDITION in the span of next 14 days.... I actually think that Luffy will not be just handed defeat... rather the beating will be absolutely brutal that Luffy physically and mentally will be in a state of coma until he survives and regains consciousness and AFTER that month passes... he survives and he along with SHs are going to make a comeback and win later.... I think we need to look at Hawkin's math and calculation more carefully

Naturally two weeks is a big time for anyone to enter the scene
Exactly! I actually have a theory, albeit not a very liked one by Law fans....

It involves the whole plotline about his devil fruit. See, I always thought it was weird that Oda even came up with the immortal life surgery that never paid off in the end of Dressrosa. Obviously no one wants to see Law die, but I got to thinking:

Law's arc has been technically complete since Dressrosa. What is really his true motivation? He seems to be into taking down the Yonko, not to be pirate king. He wants to "break the gear" holding the world together, but what does that truly mean. He was showing his support for Luffy when Doflamingo cut his arm off, and hes also the only Supernova who tried saved him at Marineford.


Anyway, I think Onigashima's raid is going to go horribly. Neko and Jinbe may or may not come in this time, perhaps the big fight happens there or is saved for later, but I think Luffy and Kaido will fight, and again, and Luffy will lose badly, to the point of possibly dying. Now, Law being Law and what he thinks of Luffy may try and save his life. The Immortality Surgery may have another purpose: To ressurect someone. If said surgery can make someone immortal at the cost of the users life, is it that outlandish to think it could revive someone or save someone from an ultimately deadly injury?

Middle Acts in Kabuki's generally end with a tragedy, and said tragedy hasnt happened yet. I think Law will be this tragedy. The entire idea of taking down Kaido started with him, and it may end with him. He loses his life saving Luffy's, believing he is the person who will change the world.

Time passes, lets say another week or two, they fight Kaido at the captial, and that is when Sword and everyone comes in to turn the tide.


I think it really ties up Law's arc beautifully, and shows why Oda spent so much time on his character. But we'll see lol. I do think Onigashima's raid will be spectacular, but they wont win.
 
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However nothing says that they can't have better haki, better skills and some df power that would help them in reaching a higher power level.
But Oda himself is sexist so he doesn't do that right
No women have impressive haki, like the strongest women has less impressive haki than her subordinate son.

Skills and physical Strength are tied toget her in one piece. Like Kuina was faster than Zoro and that's why her skills mattered since if she was physically weaker then Zoro would still steam roll over her supposed skill. This is like the Hakuba vs Rebecca situation. Rebecca had very good blocking skill but that wouldn't have mattered if she didn't have actual reaction speeds to react to Hakuba. So once again, if you don't have actual physical strength then your skills will get you steam rolled.

And notice this, every single DF given to a woman who is supposed to be impressive or important to the plot never has anything to do with strength or skill or technique like all the males with DFs (except Mrs Merry Christmas and the ugly Boa sisters). From sugar to viola to Bonney to big mom to boa to pudding to tsuru to toki, All their dfs come with pure haxes attached. Abilities that are naturally broken and don't really have anything to do with how strong the actual person is.

So after 1000 chapters it's very clear that women CAN be as strong as men but Oda WILL NEVER write them like that. He just won't do it. There was nothing stopping Oda from giving a female character like Urouge's DF except that would mean that female character would actually have to fight head on to prevent and even take visible damage and NOPE women can't handle that shit
 
Of course Smoothie would be better:
- he is a woman, a strong one, and Zoro has to defeat one of them. Kuina defeated him 2000 times making him the biggest loser in OP :suresure:
Well. First, HE is a woman?:believe:
Second. I think Sanji should fight Smoothie. Given how many Ls he got against women:suresure:
- she is quite weaker compare to Katakuri, someone Zoro should not pass yet (too soon to be as strong as Wano Luffy)
He will surpass him, like it or not.
- Queen is Sanji's opponent
Agree
- they are linked by the color pink :sweat:
Purple* and by this logic, Sanji will fight Queen 100%, just look at him
Queen vs Queen:steef:


We want King just because we think he is as badass as Zoro
Sorry for you, then:kayneshrug:
 
Who wanna read another Pica vs zoro? Where Zoro needs chapters to make a plan and reach the sky vs King .... it sucks.
You're ignoring a lot of context here. Zoro started by fighting pica head on remember. He stared by fighting pica in his stone form then pica tried to fight in his human form and them realises he easy too weak and started running away.

For you to say that King vs Zoro would be another pica situation would mean that King is also weaker than Zoro and is just running away?

Anha? Are you saying King is also scared of Zoro?
 

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Well. First, HE is a woman?:believe:
Second. I think Sanji should fight Smoothie. Given how many Ls he got against women:suresure:

He will surpass him, like it or not.

Agree

Purple* and by this logic, Sanji will fight Queen 100%, just look at him
Queen vs Queen:steef:



Sorry for you, then:kayneshrug:
This Sanji meme has turned pretty popular.

I'm glad I was the one to spread this pic for first. :steef:
 
Zoros whole flashback was about men vs women. With kuina sayin that no matter what men can always go stronger than women. With zoro disagreeing. Wano will likely be the arc we see more of zoro past and we could likely see zoro's east blue master and her during flashback.
Once again I disagree. The flashback was on the surface talking about that but what was actually big talked about what was natural talent vs hardwork.

All Zoro tells her is that he is working hard to beat her so she should focus on working hard as well. Kuina complains that natural advantages matter and Zoro refuses saying he wants to beat her because he worked hard for it instead of taking her words that as time goes on she will naturally become weaker than him despite whether he works hard for his strength or not.

That's the main thing. Whether Zoro's hard work matters or not. It's not actually about genders since Oda doesn't actually care. He's never brought up genders at all and it would be weird that only Zoro is affected by this when the entire world has both men and women.
 
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