Future Events Zoro will NOT fight Kaido!
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Acknowledgements
Most of the evidence in this post were first identified by others. My only contribution is to collate them into one post and aggressively signal boost it. In particular, I am aware that I've drawn on the work of @Fiji, @KiriNigiri and @Xdrake in writing this post.
@Zenos7 has my eternal gratitude for his assistance in the panels
Introduction
Many people seem to think that Zoro will participate in the fight against Kaido in some signifcant capacity. Upon reviewing the evidence, it is clear that they are almost certainly wrong, and I wanted to cover a few reasons why.
Reasons Zoro Will Not Fight Kaido
Conclusion
No matter how I look at it, there are several reasons that suggest that Zoro would most definitely not play any significant role in the battle with Kaido. My list of reasons above is non exhaustive, so if you identify any more reasons that Zoro will most definitely not fight Kaido, please inform me of them.
:cheers:
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Acknowledgements
Most of the evidence in this post were first identified by others. My only contribution is to collate them into one post and aggressively signal boost it. In particular, I am aware that I've drawn on the work of @Fiji, @KiriNigiri and @Xdrake in writing this post.
@Zenos7 has my eternal gratitude for his assistance in the panels
Introduction
Many people seem to think that Zoro will participate in the fight against Kaido in some signifcant capacity. Upon reviewing the evidence, it is clear that they are almost certainly wrong, and I wanted to cover a few reasons why.
Reasons Zoro Will Not Fight Kaido
Dragon Slaying
Enma
Ryuma
Oden
Yasuie
Tiger vs Dragon
Chapter 981
There is an article on dragons, from One Piece Magazine Volume 5:
Here is the relevant quote:
The article further provides a description of Eastern Dragons with a picture of Kaido:
If anything is going to come of this dragon slaying setup, then all instances point towards the Dragon being Kaido (as opposed to Orochi (a mythical serpent) or King (actually a dinosaur, but even if you consider him a Dragon, he's definitely not an Eastern one)).
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Here is the relevant quote:
The article further provides a description of Eastern Dragons with a picture of Kaido:
If anything is going to come of this dragon slaying setup, then all instances point towards the Dragon being Kaido (as opposed to Orochi (a mythical serpent) or King (actually a dinosaur, but even if you consider him a Dragon, he's definitely not an Eastern one)).
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Enma
Zoro received one of Oden's swords Enma. Enma is one of only two swords to give Kaido his only (and quite a grievous one at that) scar:
Despite two of Oden's swords being used to scar Kaido, only Enma received the hype of the feat. Furthermore, when Zoro receives Enma, there is an editor's note referencing "inherited will":
Inherited will is one of the major themes of One Piece as exemplified by this quote of Gol D. Roger:
What other will did Zoro inherit that to slay Kaido and open the borders of Wanokuni:
Kawamatsu even mentions that the swords of fallen combatants shall be picked up by their comrades to continue the battle in their stead:
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Despite two of Oden's swords being used to scar Kaido, only Enma received the hype of the feat. Furthermore, when Zoro receives Enma, there is an editor's note referencing "inherited will":
Inherited will is one of the major themes of One Piece as exemplified by this quote of Gol D. Roger:
What other will did Zoro inherit that to slay Kaido and open the borders of Wanokuni:
Kawamatsu even mentions that the swords of fallen combatants shall be picked up by their comrades to continue the battle in their stead:
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Ryuma
Shimotsuki Ryuma was known as the Sword God of Wano and valiantly defended the country against outsiders:
Zoro appears to be a Shimotsuki himself, from SBS Volume 96:
He bears quite the resemblance to Ryuma:
Both Zoro and Ryuma expressed the desire to become the World's Strongest Swordsman:
Both were blamed for crimes they did not commit. Zoro was blamed for a street murder and stealing Shusui:
Ryuma was blamed for summoning a dragon and called a murderer:
Ryuma is quite famous for slaying a Western Dragon:
Oda might be setting Zoro up as the second Ryuma. One Piece Magazine Volume 6 outright says: "It's been several hundreds of years since Ryuma's death. Perhaps a strong samurai who people can call the 'second Ryuma' has already been born.":
Given that Ryuma's most iconic legend is slaying a dragon over the capital, in order for Oda to credibly depict Zoro as the second Ryuma, Zoro would have to play a huge role in the defeat of the dragon tyrant terrorising the country. This is very synergistic with the One Piece Magazine Volume 5 mentioning that a new legend of slaying an Eastern Dragon will be born. Just as Ryuma had his own legend of slaying a Western Dragon:
So also might Zoro forge his own legend by slaying an Eastern Dragon and saving the country.
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Zoro appears to be a Shimotsuki himself, from SBS Volume 96:
He bears quite the resemblance to Ryuma:
Both Zoro and Ryuma expressed the desire to become the World's Strongest Swordsman:
Both were blamed for crimes they did not commit. Zoro was blamed for a street murder and stealing Shusui:
Ryuma was blamed for summoning a dragon and called a murderer:
Ryuma is quite famous for slaying a Western Dragon:
Oda might be setting Zoro up as the second Ryuma. One Piece Magazine Volume 6 outright says: "It's been several hundreds of years since Ryuma's death. Perhaps a strong samurai who people can call the 'second Ryuma' has already been born.":
Given that Ryuma's most iconic legend is slaying a dragon over the capital, in order for Oda to credibly depict Zoro as the second Ryuma, Zoro would have to play a huge role in the defeat of the dragon tyrant terrorising the country. This is very synergistic with the One Piece Magazine Volume 5 mentioning that a new legend of slaying an Eastern Dragon will be born. Just as Ryuma had his own legend of slaying a Western Dragon:
So also might Zoro forge his own legend by slaying an Eastern Dragon and saving the country.
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Oden
Synergistically with the Enma point, Oda has drawn many gratuitous parallels between Zoro and Oden:
This collage captures it quite well I think:
Zoro has been setup to surpass Oden by accomplishing what Oden was unable to do in blackening Enma:
He may further surpass Oden by accomplishing what Oden was unable to do in defeating Kaido.
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
- Toki and Hiyori
- Oden met the 26 years old Toki.
- Zoro met the 26 years old Hiyori.
- Oden rescued Toki and fainted.
- Zoro rescued Hiyori and fainted.
- Toki nursed Oden back to health.
- Hiyori nursed Zoro back to health.
- Toki cried in Oden's arm.
- Hiyori cried in Zoro's arm.
- Oden met the 26 years old Toki.
- Orochi
- Both of them were furious at Orochi.
- Orochi was frightened by them.
- Both of them used Nitoryu in an attempt to kill Orochi.
- Oden got stopped by the Bari Bari no Mi user.
- Zoro got stopped by Denjiro.
- Enma
- Both of them are the only ones to successfully tame Enma.
- Self sacrifice
- Oden boiled for his men.
- Zoro took Luffy's damage.
- Naivete
- Oden trusts a clearly evil guy Orochi with a ridiculous demand.
- Zoro trusts a clearly evil guy Helmeppo with a ridiculous demand.
- Kinemon
- Oden rescued Kinemon from the Mountain God.
- Zoro rescued Kinemon from the Punk Hazard Dragon.
- The Boar cutting scene is constructed similarly to the Punk Hazard scene down to even Kin'emon being stuck to the boar with only his legs dangling off of it.
- Oden rescued Kinemon from the Mountain God.
This collage captures it quite well I think:
Zoro has been setup to surpass Oden by accomplishing what Oden was unable to do in blackening Enma:
He may further surpass Oden by accomplishing what Oden was unable to do in defeating Kaido.
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Yasuie
Zoro quite clearly bonded with Yasuie:
After his death Zoro swore to avenge him:
This is despite Zoro rarely fighting for revenge:
At Yasuie's execution he mentioned that no one has been able to take Kaido's head. The speech bubbles were placed directly above Zoro's head:
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
:yasu:
After his death Zoro swore to avenge him:
This is despite Zoro rarely fighting for revenge:
At Yasuie's execution he mentioned that no one has been able to take Kaido's head. The speech bubbles were placed directly above Zoro's head:
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
:yasu:
Tiger vs Dragon
The theme of the tiger opposing the dragon is a very iconic in Eastern Mythology:
Kaido has been outright stated to be an Eastern Dragon:
He certainly resembles one:
Zoro has been depicted as a tiger on multiple occasions:
Oda has implemented the theme of the tiger vs the dragon in his cover pages:
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Kaido has been outright stated to be an Eastern Dragon:
He certainly resembles one:
Zoro has been depicted as a tiger on multiple occasions:
Oda has implemented the theme of the tiger vs the dragon in his cover pages:
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Chapter 981
In chapter 981, Zoro specifically mentioned that he was conserving his strength to fight Kaido:
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Conclusion
The conclusion from the above is inescapable; Zoro will not fight Kaido in any significant capacity.
Conclusion
No matter how I look at it, there are several reasons that suggest that Zoro would most definitely not play any significant role in the battle with Kaido. My list of reasons above is non exhaustive, so if you identify any more reasons that Zoro will most definitely not fight Kaido, please inform me of them.
:cheers:
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Regarding Dragon Slaying
I do not understand why people think that the dragon Zoro will slay will not be Kaido. I mean, it's possible that Zoro wouldn't slay any Dragon at all, but if he's going to slay a dragon — if anything comes out of that plotline — then the dragon he would slay will be Kaido. I will make the case for Zoro's dragon to be Kaido, and then cover why the popular alternatives are unsuitable.
The Case for Kaido
I would now cover why the dragon Zoro will slay would not be any of the other two popular candidates, King and Orochi.
The Case Against King
The Case Against Orochi
Conclusion
If anything is to come off the "Zoro slaying a Dragon" setup, then the dragon is unquestionably Kaido. There is no compelling case to be made for any other candidate.
I do not understand why people think that the dragon Zoro will slay will not be Kaido. I mean, it's possible that Zoro wouldn't slay any Dragon at all, but if he's going to slay a dragon — if anything comes out of that plotline — then the dragon he would slay will be Kaido. I will make the case for Zoro's dragon to be Kaido, and then cover why the popular alternatives are unsuitable.
The Case for Kaido
Zoro has been set up to slay an Eastern Dragon. The most important piece of evidence for this is an article on dragons, from One Piece Magazine Volume 5:
Here is the relevant quote:
The article further provides a description of Eastern Dragons with a picture of Kaido:
Kaido certainly fits the depiction of an Eastern Dragon:
Here is the relevant quote:
The article further provides a description of Eastern Dragons with a picture of Kaido:
Kaido certainly fits the depiction of an Eastern Dragon:
I would now cover why the dragon Zoro will slay would not be any of the other two popular candidates, King and Orochi.
The Case Against King
While King does have a Ryu Ryu no Mi fruit, he's not actually a dragon. His fruit is an ancient variant and he is a pteranodon:
Dragons are mythical creatures, and any credible dragon fruit would be a mythical zoan and not an ancient one.
Furthermore, King bears no resemblance to Eastern Dragons. He looks very much like the Pteranodon he's supposed to be:
The Dragon Slaying moment is supposed to be a very special hyped up event. King does not appear to be viewed as a dragon by the people of Wano. Slaying King would have little emotional impact. He's not the one that terrorises Wano.
Zoro slaying King would be Zoro slaying a dinosaur and us pretending it's a dragon.
Dragons are mythical creatures, and any credible dragon fruit would be a mythical zoan and not an ancient one.
Furthermore, King bears no resemblance to Eastern Dragons. He looks very much like the Pteranodon he's supposed to be:
The Dragon Slaying moment is supposed to be a very special hyped up event. King does not appear to be viewed as a dragon by the people of Wano. Slaying King would have little emotional impact. He's not the one that terrorises Wano.
Zoro slaying King would be Zoro slaying a dinosaur and us pretending it's a dragon.
The Case Against Orochi
Orochi is named after the mythical 8 headed serpent Yamata no Orochi:
He has a Hebi Hebi no Mi mythical variant that is explicitly modelled after the creature:
Oden had two swords, Enma and Ame no Habakiri:
Ame no Habakiri is the sword famed for slaying the Yamata no Orochi:
Enma is the sword that was specifically hyped as being the sword to give Kaido his only scar:
Oda chose to give Zoro the sword hyped to scar Kaido and not the sword famed for slaying Orochi.
He has a Hebi Hebi no Mi mythical variant that is explicitly modelled after the creature:
Oden had two swords, Enma and Ame no Habakiri:
Ame no Habakiri is the sword famed for slaying the Yamata no Orochi:
Enma is the sword that was specifically hyped as being the sword to give Kaido his only scar:
Oda chose to give Zoro the sword hyped to scar Kaido and not the sword famed for slaying Orochi.
Conclusion
If anything is to come off the "Zoro slaying a Dragon" setup, then the dragon is unquestionably Kaido. There is no compelling case to be made for any other candidate.
I was onboard with your theory( still am) but i am kinda miffed you callled the yonko and i quote'' garbage'' on the grounds that their current showings arent the same as whitebeards which was allowed to go all out. Its kind of a petty stance to take to be honest. The one time we could gauge them was when bm/kaido fought offscreen making the island shake constantly( an island bigger than marineford by the way) and the force/shock of their clash reverberated way outside of it splitting the heavens/sea, that cannot just have been CoC, im sure physical strength was involved in it too.
TLDR: I feel its disingenuous to gauge people who were allowed to show more against people who were held off by plot( IE strawhats plotshield activation).
This is one of the many times oda went out of his way to put admirals/yonko in the same breath, they,imo, are all about equal. Chinjao who witnesses prime garp said this. Keep in mind that wb/roger never defeated any top tier 1vs1. Surpassing roger means defeating those 8 people. Any of the people in tht group gives atleast very high/extreme diff to the other. I feel like there is no reason to downplay a faction of this group to elevate the other. We should, in fact, elevate both and be happy to have so many strong people around. When other series tend to stray of that and powercreep to shit their cast.
Anyways, rant done, still love your kingdom reactions.
Cheers.
TLDR: I feel its disingenuous to gauge people who were allowed to show more against people who were held off by plot( IE strawhats plotshield activation).
This is one of the many times oda went out of his way to put admirals/yonko in the same breath, they,imo, are all about equal. Chinjao who witnesses prime garp said this. Keep in mind that wb/roger never defeated any top tier 1vs1. Surpassing roger means defeating those 8 people. Any of the people in tht group gives atleast very high/extreme diff to the other. I feel like there is no reason to downplay a faction of this group to elevate the other. We should, in fact, elevate both and be happy to have so many strong people around. When other series tend to stray of that and powercreep to shit their cast.
Anyways, rant done, still love your kingdom reactions.
Cheers.
There is no doubt the Yonko are some of the strongest individuals in the series, I just have extremely unpopular opinions about their power in comparison to Mihawk, Dragon, Akainu, etc. I also do believe that no top tier can defeat another top tier with anything less than a "highly difficult" and sometimes an "extremely difficult fight". There are arguably some mid diffs within the Admiral+Yonko spectrum, but as a whole, I do agree with the sentiment that they're comparable.
TLDR: I enjoy dissing Yonko. It's fun.
:cheers:
I'll grab my coffee and here we go!
Stop tagging @Chrono to Zoro related threads because he makes fun of my favorite character
Stop tagging @Chrono to Zoro related threads because he makes fun of my favorite character
At any rate, if he asks me to remove him from my tag list, I will.
Why would he not fight Kaido? Did Oda spend so long setting it up in vain?
What are your reasons AK? What do you think about the points I brought up?
Man, all those hopes and dreams about Zoro scarring and/or killing Kaidou. I will laugh my ass off if nothing of that happens
Why would it not amount to much? Oden's attack fucked Kaido up pretty badly:
Zoro would probably give him an even more grievous scar.
Wait, you think it's more likely that Oda is outright lying about future events through the official One Piece magazines? And that he chose to do so twice? What exactly is your rationale here?
No seriously, which of these two seems more reasonable to you:
- Oda hinting at an important future event through the official One Piece Magazines.
- Oda lying about important future events through the same magazines.
Consider that the incident in question happened not once but twice.
I feel like Zoro will play a significant role in defeating Kaido, but not cutting him down outright. Still think Zoro's 1-on-1 fight in Onigashima is against King, btw.
If I have to make a comparison, I believe Zoro's role in defeating Kaido will be similar to the role(s) of
in defeating
in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Just like
didn't kill
despite dealing a fatal blow to him, Zoro will probably do the same to Kaido who will be playing the role of
.
Luffy will play the role of
here and take out Kaido after a hell of a fight.
If I have to make a comparison, I believe Zoro's role in defeating Kaido will be similar to the role(s) of
Buccaneer + Fu + Greedling + Briggs Soldiers
King Bradley
they
Bradley
Bradley
Luffy will play the role of
Scar
Honestly, that's Oda's gag lately
Introduces plots with so much potential, and the bastard (Oda) knows what we're looking for in the payoff
He keeps teasing it
Only to then say "nah" plot moves for something else completely no one cares for
Then he sets up a new interesting plot with huge potential, and keeps repeating it
Let's not forget "Marco's message" which is supposed to indicate an "intel" according to the tone of his dialog with Nekumamushi
Oda knows we think "he might be giving intel about a certain character, or Ace grave or whatever his message carries"
Then just throws away that plot in a spectacular way
Cause at least the note of him coming late would have payed off eventually (as lame as it is) if Marco joined the war way later and Neku delivered the message
Let's not forget the Cake that is supposed to knock out BM for the rest of the arc Lol
Or
Zoro will round up the Samurai of Wano
Or Zoro's Snatch scream getting revealed in SBS
Or or or or
He introduces something we start enjoying, then he steals that feeling by making the most disappointing move
Introduces plots with so much potential, and the bastard (Oda) knows what we're looking for in the payoff
He keeps teasing it
Only to then say "nah" plot moves for something else completely no one cares for
Then he sets up a new interesting plot with huge potential, and keeps repeating it
Let's not forget "Marco's message" which is supposed to indicate an "intel" according to the tone of his dialog with Nekumamushi
Oda knows we think "he might be giving intel about a certain character, or Ace grave or whatever his message carries"
Then just throws away that plot in a spectacular way
Cause at least the note of him coming late would have payed off eventually (as lame as it is) if Marco joined the war way later and Neku delivered the message
Let's not forget the Cake that is supposed to knock out BM for the rest of the arc Lol
Or
Zoro will round up the Samurai of Wano
Or Zoro's Snatch scream getting revealed in SBS
Or or or or
He introduces something we start enjoying, then he steals that feeling by making the most disappointing move
