Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

Is Zoro now stronger than luffy?


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I dont think two characters clashing equally in op means they are equally strong do you?
so why would I think a clash of conquerors would imply that they are.....
your conclusion from my claim is nonsensical.
That's the implication from your claim that COC = how strong you are.
This means when characters clash equally in COC, it means they are equally strong

in the same vein quotes a post showing how different ray and shanks conquerors would be to FI luffy.
very great argument you got here
It doesn't vary for the user. It means you can't use 5% of your COC strength or 50% of your COC strength
it does affect your point cause its not at all a contradiction
wasnt that your point?
by getting stronger , your coc gets stronger indirectly. simple enough?
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It is a contradiction since training to get stronger would drrectly be training your COC. According to your logic that COC is how strong you are.

Even Oda limits it to "strong willed" people being able to withstand...further emphasizing the spirit
 
That's the implication from your claim that COC = how strong you are.
This means when characters clash equally in COC, it means they are equally strong


It doesn't vary for the user. It means you can't use 5% of your COC strength or 50% of your COC strength

It is a contradiction since training to get stronger would drrectly be training your COC. According to your logic that COC is how strong you are.
"It doesn't vary for the user. It means you can't use 5% of your COC strength or 50% of your COC strength"
no lore or story evidence provided on this at all so head-canon territory

"That's the implication from your claim that COC = how strong you are.
This means when characters clash equally in COC, it means they are equally strong"

again we dont measure how strong people are in clashes do we
so why would that be the conclusion from an equal clash of conquerors........
am getting tired of repeating the same thing before you understand it


"It is a contradiction since training to get stronger would drrectly be training your COC. According to your logic that COC is how strong you are."
according to what the story says coc is correlated with how strong the user is .
yeah I will see myself out
not about to explain the difference between directly and indirectly .
 
again we dont measure how strong people are in clashes do we
so why would that be the conclusion from an equal clash of conquerors........
am getting tired of repeating the same thing before you understand it
From your logic that COC = how strong you are....then we can measure.
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you can use more ryou in attacks cant you
or you dont know that as well...
rofl
That doesn't change the strength of your ryou. It only overuses your ryou.
When Luffy uses G4, he is overusing haki, his haki strength doesn't change
 
So here's a key thing you are missing. Zoro's attacks are on a continuum. You have zoro's king of hell 3 sword style, which uses considerably smaller CoC streaks(even when compared to Luffy's). And then you have the king of hell 3 dragon style, which uses the giant streaks.

The fact that zoro has 2 styles depending on how much CoC he is outputting leads me to believe that 3 dragons style is a sort of ultimate form for zoro(at least haki-wise). 3 dragons is when he is going all out with his haki without holding anything back. This makes sense as Zoro said he needed to end the fight soon.

In any case, zoro clearly didn't low diff him if he had to use 3 dragon style. And while zoro was using his CoC at full force, we've yet to really see Luffy do this. Luffy's CoC attacks so far were just his casual punches, mostly just no-named attacks.
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This is something I've noticed ever since 1010. Zoro fans continuously try to downplay Luffy's mastery of CoC by comparing Luffy's weakest attacks with zoro's strongest.

And I'd definitely put jet culverin in the "weakest" category. Its a speed based form.
Best post in this thread! Thumbs up, mate

Similiar to that and how Sanji was also given a new named PU, I'm pretty sure that Luffy will most likely get a new named arsenal aswell, indicating internal destruction CoC usage.
And that's also what that Jet culverin lacked, as it seemingly made physical contact.
So people seriously need to hold their horses, before junping to conclusions
 
Zoro still gets low diffed by Luffy. Albert just gets neg diffed, no comparison. Luffy was splitting skies from a basic punch, Zoro out here fighting a pretty boy who stands no chance to characters with acoc to begin with.
 

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Zoro still gets low diffed by Luffy. Albert just gets neg diffed, no comparison. Luffy was splitting skies from a basic punch, Zoro out here fighting a pretty boy who stands no chance to characters with acoc to begin with.
Luffy is not qualified to face King, dont even dream about facing Zoro. :cantseeme:
 
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