Speculations Zoro's fights against Mihawk and Kizaru
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It’s actually highly possible that Zoro becomes the WSS before Luffy becomes the PK. There’s no real issue that would raise from that... Mihawk is prob gonna side with Shanks soon and that’s when we could see red hair pirates vs SHs. And that’s gonna happen before SHs reach laugh tale. Even if you say Mihawk isn’t gonna side with Shanks, there’s no way for Zoro vs Mihawk to happen unless you think it’s off panel! Cuz it doesn’t make sense for Zoro to either drag the crew with him just for this fight nor are we gonna have an are just for the two to fight. Mihawk is gonna be a extra powerful opponent in the side of the antagonist like how BM is for Kaido now.
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I honestly don’t see this fight happening... Fuji makes more sense.
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I honestly don’t see this fight happening... Fuji makes more sense.
I don't see Zoro fighting Kizaru. There would be no point in restricting Kizaru to just a sword fight.
As of now I would still say that Fujitora is the better fit. Zoro should become WSS before or simultaneously with Luffy becoming Pirate King so such a fight with Fuji would be after Mihawk has already been defeated. He doesn't really fit well in the final war, and the idea it would be an epilogue fight is just funny.
As of now I would still say that Fujitora is the better fit. Zoro should become WSS before or simultaneously with Luffy becoming Pirate King so such a fight with Fuji would be after Mihawk has already been defeated. He doesn't really fit well in the final war, and the idea it would be an epilogue fight is just funny.
Who says that Kizaru will be restricted to something in particular? If this fight happens with them being in opposite sides, both men will go all out. Restricting Borsalino to swordmanship because he is fighting Zoro doesn't make any sense.
The main problem with Fuji is that, by the time of the Final War, I don't really see him fighting for the WG, if what the story has shown us about this man and his character so far is any indication to how things could develop in the future. I don't think he will be an opponent that the straw hats will have to overcome.
Those are the main arguments I have seen for Zoro vs Kizaru :
•There is a consistent trend in the manga of Kizaru being put against vice captains/right hands/first mates : Rayleigh, Marco, Benn Beckman. Be it clashes, interactions etc.
•Kizaru being the one to almost kill Zoro until Ray saved him. This event doesn't hold the emotional weight of the interactions between Luffy and Akainu but it's still pretty significant.
I have also seen some interpretations of the Akainu/Kizaru dynamic being similar to that of a captain/vice captain, even if such terms obviously doesn't exist in the marines. With Kizaru seemigly being the closest to Akainu, a sort of right hand man and also being older than him.
I think that Kizaru fighting Zoro would fit very well while Luffy takes on Akainu.
The main problem with Fuji is that, by the time of the Final War, I don't really see him fighting for the WG, if what the story has shown us about this man and his character so far is any indication to how things could develop in the future. I don't think he will be an opponent that the straw hats will have to overcome.
Those are the main arguments I have seen for Zoro vs Kizaru :
•There is a consistent trend in the manga of Kizaru being put against vice captains/right hands/first mates : Rayleigh, Marco, Benn Beckman. Be it clashes, interactions etc.
•Kizaru being the one to almost kill Zoro until Ray saved him. This event doesn't hold the emotional weight of the interactions between Luffy and Akainu but it's still pretty significant.
I have also seen some interpretations of the Akainu/Kizaru dynamic being similar to that of a captain/vice captain, even if such terms obviously doesn't exist in the marines. With Kizaru seemigly being the closest to Akainu, a sort of right hand man and also being older than him.
I think that Kizaru fighting Zoro would fit very well while Luffy takes on Akainu.
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Lmao this ppl doesn't get the story. Mihawk himself said Luffy's goal is harder than Zoro. And Luffy also said it will be great if the Pirate King has the WSS in his crew. All these evidence shows that Zoro will achieve his goal before Luffy.
And is it even a question?? That Luffy will achieve his goal only after all his crew achieve their respective goal. He's the captain and the MC and a goal tougher than anyone in the crew. Luffy goal will be the last.
And the story isn't gonna end yet when Luffy became PK, there's gonna be the final war. Whitebeard and Oda already talk about that War when someone finds the treasure. Which means "WSS Zoro" opponent will arrive in the final war.
The story says Zoro goal is to surpass Mihawk. But it never says he will be the final opponent for Zoro. Just like Luffy too, his goal is PK but it never says it is the end for Luffy. There will be obviously the true final opponent for Zoro in the final War which may not be a swordman. Just like the final opponent for Luffy in the story will not be a pirate.
And is it even a question?? That Luffy will achieve his goal only after all his crew achieve their respective goal. He's the captain and the MC and a goal tougher than anyone in the crew. Luffy goal will be the last.
And the story isn't gonna end yet when Luffy became PK, there's gonna be the final war. Whitebeard and Oda already talk about that War when someone finds the treasure. Which means "WSS Zoro" opponent will arrive in the final war.
The story says Zoro goal is to surpass Mihawk. But it never says he will be the final opponent for Zoro. Just like Luffy too, his goal is PK but it never says it is the end for Luffy. There will be obviously the true final opponent for Zoro in the final War which may not be a swordman. Just like the final opponent for Luffy in the story will not be a pirate.
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When did i said Zoro will fight him in Elbaf?? Are you guys even sure there will be Zoro vs Mihawk?? It could happen and cannot happen at the same time. Luffy also said he will surpass Shanks, that doesn't mean he will go ans take him down never. And like i told you Zoro achieving his goal after Luffy become PK doesn't make any sense.
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Is Zoro the WSS yet?? That's why Luffy goal will only come after Zoro goal lol
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Is Zoro the WSS yet?? That's why Luffy goal will only come after Zoro goal lol
It makes sense because if you dont think Zoro and Mihawk will fight at Elbaf, it will happen after Luffy became PK since he is PK after Elbaf where the last Road Poneglyph should be. We are heading to Raftel after Elbaf so Mihawk vs Zoro has to happen on Elbaf according to your own demands. And when I just pointed it out, not even you believe it will happen before Luffy is PK...
Im so shook when you guys are so straightforward headcanon for future events. Is Elbaf the last island before Laugh Tale?? We aren't even sure if Elbaf will be a major arc like Wano or it couldn't even happen. And Last Poneglyph at Elbaf?? That's some headcanon. We don't know when Zoro will reach his goal but we do know that Luffy goal will be last
lol, you dont know anything... Several crew members will achieve their dreams after Luffy became PK and Zoro is one of them...
Strawhats already have 3 Road Poneglyphs, it doesnt take a genius to figure out that the next location will have 4th RP.
The only island of importance left is Elbaf so unless you believe that Mihawk and Zoro will fight there, Luffy becomes PK first.
Raftel is in the New World, most likely, while Mihawk is on the other side of the globe, in Paradise.
Laboon, who Brook wants to meet, is at the start of Paradise... Wano>Elbaf>Raftel is an obvious path.
Strawhats already have 3 Road Poneglyphs, it doesnt take a genius to figure out that the next location will have 4th RP.
The only island of importance left is Elbaf so unless you believe that Mihawk and Zoro will fight there, Luffy becomes PK first.
Raftel is in the New World, most likely, while Mihawk is on the other side of the globe, in Paradise.
Laboon, who Brook wants to meet, is at the start of Paradise... Wano>Elbaf>Raftel is an obvious path.
Lol look at who's talking. The goal which stated to be the hardest among the crew will be the first?? Sanji goal is to find All Blue, Nami goal is to draw the entire map etc. All this are tied to Luffy goal i.e after they travel entire Grandline and reach the last island.
The Final Battle is gonna happen in the so-called Final War in which Mihawk obviously is not an opponent for Zoro. So no, Mihawk is not the final opponent for him. And stop the headcanon,
Elabf is not island that leads to PK, Lodstarr is the final island before LaugTale.
And you sure that Mihawk will be just chilling all
the time the Final War happening?? The War that is said to be engulfing the whole world. So ofc Mihawk and Zoro should settle down before the final War
The Final Battle is gonna happen in the so-called Final War in which Mihawk obviously is not an opponent for Zoro. So no, Mihawk is not the final opponent for him. And stop the headcanon,
Elabf is not island that leads to PK, Lodstarr is the final island before LaugTale.
And you sure that Mihawk will be just chilling all
the time the Final War happening?? The War that is said to be engulfing the whole world. So ofc Mihawk and Zoro should settle down before the final War
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