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Lol, triggered cause you didn't think that through before you spoke.
True, but like I said, I think Haki is only one aspect of what it takes to forge a black blade. Mihawk and Ryuma weren't just born with the ability of using Armament Haki, and I don't think it's coincidence that the two people who have already created black blades, and the next person who will do it, are all what the embodiment of what it means to be a Swordsman to their core.
True, but like I said, I think Haki is only one aspect of what it takes to forge a black blade. Mihawk and Ryuma weren't just born with the ability of using Armament Haki, and I don't think it's coincidence that the two people who have already created black blades, and the next person who will do it, are all what the embodiment of what it means to be a Swordsman to their core.
Lol, triggered cause you didn't think that through before you spoke.
True, but like I said, I think Haki is only one aspect of what it takes to forge a black blade. Mihawk and Ryuma weren't just born with the ability of using Armament Haki, and I don't think it's coincidence that the two people who have already created black blades, and the next person who will do it, are all what the embodiment of what it means to be a Swordsman to their core.
True, but like I said, I think Haki is only one aspect of what it takes to forge a black blade. Mihawk and Ryuma weren't just born with the ability of using Armament Haki, and I don't think it's coincidence that the two people who have already created black blades, and the next person who will do it, are all what the embodiment of what it means to be a Swordsman to their core.
First let's look at the Arguments for Enma being a PU.
-It increase Zoros power
-Zoro said he would get stronger
-Zoro said he needed to unleash Enma
1. Now let's look at this one which I consider to be the weakest.
Zoro could always cut cliffs and mountains as a matter of fact he cut a cliff bugger than the one he cut with Enma with Sandai Kitetsu, his lowest graded sword, on PH so we know Zoro has the haki necessary to do these things
The difference between the sandai and Enma cut is that. For Sandai he was trying to cut the cliff but for Enma he simply wanted to cut a tree.
I Know this may sound better but throughout one piece more power at the expense of control and skill has been disdained by master swordsmen
So we know Zoro has the ability to cut cliffs and such so it didnt boost his power and even if it did it would go against being a swordsman.
2. Zoro said he would get stronger. This the most logical argument but it still fails to prove Enma is a PU because Zoro said he would get stronger once he gets used to Enma not instantly which a big part of every PU
How does Zoro get stronger by using Enma I ask the opposition? That's right by training his haki control. And if you consider that a PU you must consider weights a PU and if you do this discussion is a waste because we cant agree on the basic terminology.
3. Zoro said Enma's Power
Now this is just laughable. A told by kitetsu a master swordsmith Enma has no power of it's own it takes a lot of the wielders ryou so all enmas power is zoros power
And to even debunk this Oda puts Enma in quotes showing he doesnt agree with it being enmas power
-It increase Zoros power
-Zoro said he would get stronger
-Zoro said he needed to unleash Enma
1. Now let's look at this one which I consider to be the weakest.
Zoro could always cut cliffs and mountains as a matter of fact he cut a cliff bugger than the one he cut with Enma with Sandai Kitetsu, his lowest graded sword, on PH so we know Zoro has the haki necessary to do these things
The difference between the sandai and Enma cut is that. For Sandai he was trying to cut the cliff but for Enma he simply wanted to cut a tree.
I Know this may sound better but throughout one piece more power at the expense of control and skill has been disdained by master swordsmen
So we know Zoro has the ability to cut cliffs and such so it didnt boost his power and even if it did it would go against being a swordsman.
2. Zoro said he would get stronger. This the most logical argument but it still fails to prove Enma is a PU because Zoro said he would get stronger once he gets used to Enma not instantly which a big part of every PU
How does Zoro get stronger by using Enma I ask the opposition? That's right by training his haki control. And if you consider that a PU you must consider weights a PU and if you do this discussion is a waste because we cant agree on the basic terminology.
3. Zoro said Enma's Power
Now this is just laughable. A told by kitetsu a master swordsmith Enma has no power of it's own it takes a lot of the wielders ryou so all enmas power is zoros power
And to even debunk this Oda puts Enma in quotes showing he doesnt agree with it being enmas power
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@PuckTheGreat
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@ShishioIsBack
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@Dragomir
@Sword God Ryuma
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@IceWitch
@Himura
@DarkWitch
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@Mr. Anderson
@yunzabit heights
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@Don DaSlayer
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@Master OF Haki
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@SinOfGreed
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@JioFreed
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@KINGKONGGUN15
@RyumaZoro
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@LuffyMazino
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@RZ.119
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Ofc it is.
It gave Zoro the capacity to increase his Haki lvl in a shorter time (than if he were to train for himself) and with the official translation it seems that Oda maybe will use that ability of releasing more Haki at once than a character can do for himself, emulating basically the Adv CoA lvl 1 functioning, since Zoro is pointing clearly that Enma is more special among his swords giving him extra power.
Stop with this pathetic tries lol.
It gave Zoro the capacity to increase his Haki lvl in a shorter time (than if he were to train for himself) and with the official translation it seems that Oda maybe will use that ability of releasing more Haki at once than a character can do for himself, emulating basically the Adv CoA lvl 1 functioning, since Zoro is pointing clearly that Enma is more special among his swords giving him extra power.
Stop with this pathetic tries lol.
Using the cliffs argument, Zoro used enough power to cut it in PH but only tried to use enough power to cut a tree in Wano and Enma got greedy. We haven't seen any other sword do that, you can swing any other sword a hundred times and you'll be fine. Of course it's a power up, why try to argue against it?
