Powers & Abilities Enma General Discussion Power-up / Black Blade
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If you consider weights a PU fine I dont they're a PU in your eyes not mine.
If weights are PUs I dont care since Zoro has been getting PUs every day
Only when he gets used it just like weights.
What are you talking about that go against swordsmanship and serves more as a nerf. Sandai tried cutting people Zoro didnt want to cut was that a PU. No the PU was the increase rank but we dont even that now as Enma and Shusui are the same rank
If weights are PUs I dont care since Zoro has been getting PUs every day
Only when he gets used it just like weights.
What are you talking about that go against swordsmanship and serves more as a nerf. Sandai tried cutting people Zoro didnt want to cut was that a PU. No the PU was the increase rank but we dont even that now as Enma and Shusui are the same rank
It all comes down to whether you think he's gotten fully used to it or not.
If you think he's fully used to it, then by that point. It's powered him up. If you don't think he's fully used to it, then it's not a power-up ... yet. I say yet because once he has gotten fully used to it, it is a power-up. The problems of the sword cutting more than the owner wants wouldn't be there anymore, so it wouldn't nerf him anymore.
It's pretty much a power-up that starts by making you a bit worse than usual, then makes you stronger than your original self.
If you think he's fully used to it, then by that point. It's powered him up. If you don't think he's fully used to it, then it's not a power-up ... yet. I say yet because once he has gotten fully used to it, it is a power-up. The problems of the sword cutting more than the owner wants wouldn't be there anymore, so it wouldn't nerf him anymore.
It's pretty much a power-up that starts by making you a bit worse than usual, then makes you stronger than your original self.
Not if that cliff is bare minimum(Demo) and Enma allows Zoro to do much better than he did in DR.
And for that All he needs to do is use his strongest attack and unleash Enma to use majority of his Haki in the slash.
Being able to tame is required to not get knocked unconscious running out of juice, or waste Haki unnecessarily in attacks. If he had to cut Kaidou i bet he could have done it without training but it would have been hit/miss case, a one shot with Zoro ending up being unconscious.
Hence it is a PU with a drawback for which Zoro needed to train to use it effectively.
Luffy 1st PU this arc is learning to out his Haki i.e Ryou. Just that.
So even if Enma uses Zoro Haki, it helps him out more Haki than he originally could. Hence a PU.
As for why i consider it training wheel, the more better his control over Enma to keep it restrained from using his Haki, the better his control on Haki will be. So in the longer run his control over Haki is also getting substantially faster better.
Peace out.
And for that All he needs to do is use his strongest attack and unleash Enma to use majority of his Haki in the slash.
Being able to tame is required to not get knocked unconscious running out of juice, or waste Haki unnecessarily in attacks. If he had to cut Kaidou i bet he could have done it without training but it would have been hit/miss case, a one shot with Zoro ending up being unconscious.
Hence it is a PU with a drawback for which Zoro needed to train to use it effectively.
Luffy 1st PU this arc is learning to out his Haki i.e Ryou. Just that.
So even if Enma uses Zoro Haki, it helps him out more Haki than he originally could. Hence a PU.
As for why i consider it training wheel, the more better his control over Enma to keep it restrained from using his Haki, the better his control on Haki will be. So in the longer run his control over Haki is also getting substantially faster better.
Peace out.
I know that.
I will try to keep it short.
If you want to read more. Here it also has Panels.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/zoro-is-holding-back-then.10329/post-998600
I will try to keep it short.
I know Zoro could have cut the cliff with other swords. And Enma took his haki unnecessarily and cut the cliff, against his will which is not indicative of good swordman. I know that.
But author intent here was showcasing what Enma could do, a mini version.
Like when he intended to cut a tree it did that, what if he intended to use his strongest attack and entire Haki how much stronger would it have been.
There's another thing to notice, Zoro swords never had this much haki, Enma did that. And easy to say more Haki the stronger attacks.
Zoro trained with it, so he can control how much Haki Enma utilises and so he cuts what he wants to and not unnecessarily use bigger attacks(or Haki). Since spamming those can result into what happens to Luffy after G4.
The main giving point of Enma is it sucks out User Haki into the sword and that make the attacks stronger. If user learns to effectively use it, he can put more Haki into his swords than he previously could and the slashes they would be much stronger.
The difference for eg between Mihawk n Zoro slashes might be amount of Ryou they put into their swords and attacks.
For now Zoro needs Enma boost to achieve stronger slashes, later his own slashes will grow stronger as his mastery over Haki gets better. Atleast this is what my take on Enma and whole situation, and why it is both training tool and a PU.
But author intent here was showcasing what Enma could do, a mini version.
Like when he intended to cut a tree it did that, what if he intended to use his strongest attack and entire Haki how much stronger would it have been.
There's another thing to notice, Zoro swords never had this much haki, Enma did that. And easy to say more Haki the stronger attacks.
Zoro trained with it, so he can control how much Haki Enma utilises and so he cuts what he wants to and not unnecessarily use bigger attacks(or Haki). Since spamming those can result into what happens to Luffy after G4.
The main giving point of Enma is it sucks out User Haki into the sword and that make the attacks stronger. If user learns to effectively use it, he can put more Haki into his swords than he previously could and the slashes they would be much stronger.
The difference for eg between Mihawk n Zoro slashes might be amount of Ryou they put into their swords and attacks.
For now Zoro needs Enma boost to achieve stronger slashes, later his own slashes will grow stronger as his mastery over Haki gets better. Atleast this is what my take on Enma and whole situation, and why it is both training tool and a PU.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/zoro-is-holding-back-then.10329/post-998600
