Powers & Abilities Enma General Discussion Power-up / Black Blade

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

How on earth could zoro bond with the sword if oden couldnt in 30 years ?

By making Enma black?

 

[HA001]

By making Enma black?

Why would zoro be able to bond more with enma in days if not weeks than oden did in 30 years ?

 

[Midnight Delight]

Do we even know how or why Blades turn black?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Why would zoro be able to bond more with enma in days if not weeks than oden did in 30 years ?

Because Oden is not obsessed with swords like Zoro does.

 

[HA001]

Because Oden is not obsessed with swords like Zoro does.

What does that mean ? Oden made his own sword style oden nitoryu and taught the scabbards and the only thing he left his kids were his swords. These points are weak

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

What does that mean ? Oden made his own sword style oden nitoryu and taught the scabbards and the only thing he left his kids were his swords. These points are weak

So how do we turn blades black then?

 

[HA001]

So how do we turn blades black then?

First of all its not just a sword thing. Mihawk told zoro any weapon can be a kokuto like yoru
So weevil and wbs naginatas katakuris mogura heck even bbs claws, scythes spears etc should all be capable.
Its not a sword exclusive thing ergo not a swordsmanship thing.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

First of all its not just a sword thing. Mihawk told zoro any weapon can be a kokuto like yoru
So weevil and wbs naginatas katakuris mogura heck even bbs claws, scythes spears etc should all be capable.
Its not a sword exclusive thing ergo not a swordsmanship thing.

So does haki have anything to do with black blades?

 

[HA001]

So does haki have anything to do with black blades?

Clearly haki is involved. I doubt its a coincidence coated swords make them black albeit temporarily.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Clearly haki is involved. I doubt its a coincidence coated swords make them black albeit temporarily.

So in order to make a black blade, you have to imbued haki 24/7 into your sword and wait for sometimes and it will become a permanent black blade? Damn, that's seems easy enough.

 

[HA001]

So in order to make a black blade, you have to imbued haki 24/7 into your sword and wait for sometimes and it will become a permanent black blade? Damn, that's seems easy enough.

I dont think its that simple or else youd have way more than 2. Theres obviously a factor we are missing.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I dont think its that simple or else youd have way more than 2. Theres obviously a factor we are missing.

I hope that after the war, we will have a clear and better explanation of how swordsman turn their blades black. I think we should get it during the Ryuma flashback when Zoro visit his grave.

 

[Finalbeta]

Enma is indeed a power-up. It's just not an instant one.

Can you specify thoroughly? Would like to discuss about it buddy.

 

[Shisui]

Hitetsu said that regular swordsmen would pass out when they try to use it.

sounds more like a liability

Does Zoro look like a regular swordsman to you???

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I am not sure tbh. I have always thought Shusui was the better sword tbh

I am gonna troll you lot so hard if Hiyori ends up taking back her sword and she doesn't pass out from it.

 

[Arrow]

If something is a PU, once it is taken away a character should power down.
Take Enma away from Zoro, give him any replacement sword and he doesnt power down so that settles it.
However, Anti-Zolo Pirates like to claim otherwise to give us chance to body them.

What is this logic?
Okay, give Zoro a wooden sword and have him fight Kaido. Zoro dead.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Does Zoro look like a regular swordsman to you???

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I am not sure tbh. I have always thought Shusui was the better sword tbh

I am gonna troll you lot so hard if Hiyori ends up taking back her sword and she doesn't pass out from it.

If Hiyori manages to use Enma at the end of this I will sport a used condom as an avatar for a week before deleting my account.

What is this logic?
Okay, give Zoro a wooden sword and have him fight Kaido. Zoro dead.

Notice how you have to go to an impossible extreme for your point? This sword, that sword, a scythe... Zoro will fight with something halfway decent and not make an excuse of he loses. A wooden sword has nothing to do with anything.

That doesn't go toward the point of Enma being a power up or not.

 

[Red Admiral]

I guess people who are saying no ... have different definition for power up

Enma is not adding to Zoro strength but it increase his firepower.

if Enma can get Zoro's Haki ... and and give him more DC and than his other swords ... it's a power up

I know it's Zoro's Haki ... but it's also ENMA who's channel it, without it he can't get that type of DC

 

[nik87]

What is this logic?
Okay, give Zoro a wooden sword and have him fight Kaido. Zoro dead.

Did you try to debunk my logic with a wooden sword just now?
You defeated your own argument with that...
Give Zoro any other (real) sword, he will perform the same.
Since he didnt power down due to lack of Enma, how can Enma be a power-up?

 

[Arrow]

If Hiyori manages to use Enma at the end of this I will
Notice how you have to go to an impossible extreme for your point? This sword, that sword, a scythe... Zoro will fight with something halfway decent and not make an excuse of he loses. A wooden sword has nothing to do with anything.

That doesn't go toward the point of Enma being a power up or not.

Lmaooo literally said give him ANY replacement and he doesnt power down, stfu.
How strong a sword is matters just as much how strong the swordsman is. Did Zoro get stronger (regardless in whatever way) after acquiring Enma?
Answer Yes, its a power up.

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Did you try to debunk my logic with a wooden sword just now?
You defeated
Give Zoro any other (real) sword, he will perform the same.
Since he didnt power down due to lack of Enma, how can Enma be a power-up?

If Zoro used the two swords he used against Hachi, he would not be on the same level. Your argument is next level retarded.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Lmaooo literally said give him ANY replacement and he doesnt power down, stfu.
How strong a sword is matters just as much how strong the swordsman is. Did Zoro get stronger (regardless in whatever way) after acquiring Enma?
Answer Yes, its a power up.

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If Zoro used the two swords he used against Hachi, he would not be on the same level. Your argument is next level retarded.

If a wooden sword was a sword, you wouldn't call it a wooden sword, just a sword. Come on now.

By your logic a pianist should be able to give a concert on a VTech